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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby Hemiola » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:02 am

Actually, HIP, it sounds more like one of my favorite shows, "Forever Knight". It will be interesting to see if they can achieve the same level of quality.

"Dark Shadows"--never cared for the original "soap opera" version (although I did like Jonathan Frid), but I rather enjoyed the re-make with Ben Cross as Barnabas. :)
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby WebWarlock » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:22 am

From the "Some People Never Learn File"

The new issue of the Buffy Comic has some "spoilers". Any way here is the article from the New York Times with a picture.

The Cliché is mentioned too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/05/books ... LjpsWe/QVA

Experimenting in Bed When Not After Vampires
By GEORGE GENE GUSTINES
Buffy Summers, the vampire slayer of film, television and comic books, is all confidence in fighting the forces of darkness. But she’s often shakier in her intimate relationships.

Her liaisons include Angel, a vampire who is arguably her true love; Riley, a military operative who combats the supernatural; Spike, another vampire; and Parker, a fellow college student and one-night stand.

In a new issue of the “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” comic book series, being released Wednesday, Buffy sleeps with a fellow slayer. And, oh yeah, she’s a woman.

It’s an unusual development for a lead character of a series, whether on television or in comic books.

The story line “evolved naturally,” said Joss Whedon, who created Buffy for the 1992 film and the 1997 television show, which ran for seven seasons. Mr. Whedon is also executive producer of the comic book, published by Dark Horse Comics and promoted as “Season Eight.”

He has written several stories for it, including an opening arc that introduces Satsu (pronounced SOUGHT-sue), one of nearly 2,000 slayers activated in the television show’s finale. One of Buffy’s prized disciples, she ends up sharing her bed.

Mr. Whedon has developed their liaison over several issues. In No. 3 Buffy is overcome by a “Sleeping Beauty” spell undone only by a kiss from someone who loves her. In No. 4 Buffy realizes that Satsu saved her. Last month the pair discussed Satsu’s feelings. Buffy, although flattered by Satsu’s attentions, said the risks of involvement were too great.

“People who love me tend to ... oh, die,” she said. Or, she added, they leave, because “sooner or later everybody realizes there’s something wrong ... something wrong with me, or around me.”

The matter seemed resolved, but in the newest issue, No. 12 — written by Drew Goddard, the screenwriter of “Cloverfield” — Buffy and Satsu are in bed, naked under the sheets. “It puts the reader in this ‘Oh my God’ moment,” Mr. Whedon said during a telephone interview. “And it puts Buffy in an ‘Oh my God, what did I just do?’ moment.”

But before fans start blogging frantically, they should know that Mr. Whedon is clear where this is headed. “We’re not going to make her gay, nor are we going to take the next 50 issues explaining that she’s not. She’s young and experimenting, and did I mention open-minded?”

This is not the first same-sex encounter to affect the Scooby Gang, as Buffy and her friends are known. Willow, the group’s spell-caster, came out in Season 4 of the television series. In response, Mr. Whedon said, “there was some prerecorded outrage,” including an Internet post from a fan who vowed never to watch again. He recalled his response: “We’ll miss you.”

Numerous fans appreciated Willow’s revelation. “When it became clear how much this meant to people, we knew we could not take it back,” Mr. Whedon said. “O.K., this was a life change.”

Not so for Buffy. “I wouldn’t even call it a phase,” he said of her intimate moment with Satsu. “It’s just something that happens.”

Still, most pleasing to Mr. Whedon is the feelings the encounter will evoke in the characters. He suggested that both Buffy and Satsu might think, “Did I use this person? I had a nice time, but does this make me a bad person emotionally?” Even more important, he added, is “the funny” it will bring: “Willow might be defensive about it: ‘Well, I didn’t want to sleep with you anyway.’ ”

He added, “It’s always fun to give Buffy something to feel awkward about besides ‘I’m lonely’ and ‘I don’t have a boyfriend.’ ”

And what of Satsu’s fate? “We’re not going to dump her off the face of the earth, unless we kill her, because we love to kill characters,” Mr. Whedon said in jest. “If we do, don’t worry, she’ll probably come back as a ghost.” More seriously, he said, “She’s in the rotation.” But then he added, “For as long as she can live.”

What of the viewer outrage when Willow’s girlfriend Tara was fatally shot?

“It’s something you have to factor in,” Mr. Whedon said. After Tara died, he said, he discovered that “there was a whole cliché about lesbians being killed.” He added: “You do have to be careful about the message you’re sending out. It’s a double-edged sword. You have to be responsible, but you also have to be irresponsible or you’re not telling the best stories.”


The question is, "Does he get it yet?" ? I don't know. I am likely to say no because past experience has told me so. But come on, we all beat this guy into a bloody pulp with this! If he doesn't get then he has to be the dumbest person to ever hold a job in Hollywood, and that is saying something.

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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby emma peel » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:19 pm

The question is, "Does he get it yet?" ? I don't know. I am likely to say no because past experience has told me so. But come on, we all beat this guy into a bloody pulp with this! If he doesn't get then he has to be the dumbest person to ever hold a job in Hollywood, and that is saying something
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Thanks for the article, Tim. Just when I think this is "all over," Josswad has to make another "appearance." You think I'd learn, huh?
I actually think he's the dumbest person to ever hold a job in Hollywood. That and the fact that daddy Whedon and granddaddy Whedon were more successful and talented, IMO, than Josswad probably hasn't helped widdle Jossie. Folks probably just work around the petty little man, let him do "his thing" (repetive much??) then clean up his mess after him.
He must have one heck of an inheritance. Sheesh.
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby emma peel » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:34 pm

Why won't Joss JUST GO AWAY??? There was a link on the bottom of imdb's home page:
Joss Whedon's Cyber-Musical from io9.com , which goes to here:
http://io9.com/369286/when-will-joss-wh ... trike-next
I read the article. Very impressive. :sarcasm:
How old is this guy???? I think he has too much time on his hands.
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby Hemiola » Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:40 am

JANE ESPENSON is a co-creator and co-writer on the new series "Warehouse 13" which has just starting airing on SyFy (I wonder what idiot came up with this lame name-change for the Sci-Fi Channel???)
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby WebWarlock » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:40 am

Dollhouse is being pulled for Nov sweeps.

Of course the "fans" are selling this as "we get double episodes in December!!"

Does not bode well.

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