Firefly Cancelled

[emma peel]

Thanks for the John Doe info, sam7777. Darn it, I really liked the show.

Janice

[sam7777]

Emma: you are very welcome. I'm sorry to see "John Doe" go as well.



Thanks partly to the utter failure that Fireshit was, Fox is scrambling to fill it's Friday night schedule.

www.thefutoncritic.com/cg...re&id=5933

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-- Over at FOX, David E. Kelly's "Boston Public" may not return to Monday nights as expected with recent buzz now placing the drama on Fridays.



-- The bulk of FOX's comedy pilots ("Cracked Up," "Arrested Development," "Senior White" and "A Minute With Stan Hooper" ) are said to still be in contention for a fall slot

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Fox may have a lead in the 18-49 audience but it is all for reality shows that are shorter lived than scripted series. Fox is going to have to launch alot of shows next season.

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Edited by: sam7777  at: 5/9/03 11:56:01 am

[helpful information perha]

after Aly McBeals cancelation - the quick hook on his replacement lawyer girlie show and the ratings hit the Practice took from its switch of time slots - I think Kelley is going to be majorly pissed off if FOX tries to push his highschool show into the friday slot. what would they pair it with? fastlane? One would think FOX was trying to get rid of Kelly with this move

[kajo 2000]

From the New York Daily News:

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Fox anchored in reality,

plus seven new scripts

May 16, 2003



With two nights of "American Idol" and the novelty hit "Joe Millionaire" ending the season as the only Fox shows in the top 10, it's not surprising that the network has plans to present new versions of both shows, and other reality offshoots, this fall.



Yet in unveiling its 2003-04 TV season plans yesterday, Fox was equally committed to scripted shows, and to revamping its schedule significantly.



Three new dramas and four new sitcoms, five hours in all, will be added to the Fox schedule this fall, along with a rotating wheel of "American Idol" shows and new "Joe Millionaire," with a new bachelor but the same butler.



In addition, so many returning shows will move to new times that only five of the 15 hours Fox programs weekly in prime time will be untouched next season.



Only ABC and the WB are revamping as much, yet Fox executives say they're using their program shifts to take advantage of their reality-show successes.



"We're aiming for our most competitive year ever," Fox Entertainment President Gail Berman told reporters yesterday.



Changes include a new installment of "Joe Millionaire," shown earlier on Monday to anchor the night; "Boston Public," formerly in that time slot, moves to Fridays. The summer show "American Juniors" continues into the fall on Tuesday, holding the space until "American Idol" returns in January (Fox executives hope to have all three judges back).



And while Tuesday's second-season finale of "24" is a mystery at this point, the show will return in the same Tuesday slot in the fall - as will star Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer.



Technically, the only unchanged night is Saturday, with the durable lineup of "Cops" and "America's Most Wanted." On Sundays, "The Simpsons" and "Malcolm in the Middle" stay put, but everything else is moved or canceled.



The unlucky shows include "Andy Richter Controls the Universe" ("a show we really liked," Berman said), "Fastlane," "girls club," "John Doe" and "Firefly," which Berman said creator Joss Whedon was planning to refashion and revive as a movie.



The new shows include "Tru Calling," with Eliza Dushku (a recurring player on "Buffy the Vampire Slayer") as a time-traveler able to go back for only a day; "Skin," a drama from Jerry Bruckheimer about efforts to curtail the adult film industry, and "The O.C.," a drama set in Orange County, California, that will get an early launch in summer, much as Fox jumped the gun successfully years ago with "Beverly Hills 90210."



In addition to "Joe Millionaire," freshman shows from the current season to return in the fall are "Cedric the Entertainer Presents," "Oliver Beene" and "Wanda at Large." All four lucky returnees, though, will be moved to new time slots.

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[WebWarlock]

Oh I can see it now.



"From the same creative mind that brought you 'Titan AE' and 'Alien: Resurrection' brings you his next Sci-Fi disaster!"



I hope he gets to make it so he can fail on TV AND in movies with it.



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Web Warlock

The Other Side,
home of Liber Mysterium: The Netbook of Witches and Warlocks

"If this is all the gods can do, I'm over to the Darkside so fast." - Tom Servo Mystery Science Theater 3000, Episode 903 "Pumaman".

[maudmac]

Joss doesn't ever seem to be able to bend his mind around the idea that something he thinks is awesome might not actually be awesome. He pretty much had one good idea, once, and he trashed even that.



Oh, pffft, what I really wanted to say is that I'm beside myself with joy that Wanda At Large will be back this fall. I love Wanda Sykes to death.

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that I know how to do well and I've often been told that you only can do what you know how to do well and that's be you,
be what you're like, be like yourself -TMBG

[feena191]

OMG, I don’t believe it! I’m having a letter published in Dreamwatch! I sent it about the letter where the writer says the failure of Firefly is down to Joss, but it wasn’t really a “please publish me” letter, just a email to let them know JW mentioned them on the BB. It’s not written that great, I didn’t expect them to use it, & I signed me Carrie instead of Kari because that’s a bit too unusual. With that & my unusual surname I don’t like giving out personal details. (Bad previous experience)

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Hi Carrie,



Thanks for your letter, which we used in Dreamwatch.



Can you email us your address? Then we can send out the book prize that we give as a thank you to contributors.



Best Wishes



Dreamwatch Magazine

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I agree completely with Kim, writer of the Dreamwatch Star Letter! from the May edition, “We Didn't Put Out the Fire!” in which she writes that the “entire blame for the Firefly ordeal should be laid at the feet of the executives at Fox and of Joss Whedon himself”. I think she’s spot-on with her detailed assessment. I also think she (and yourselves!) would be happy to know her letter came to the attention of Joss Whedon himself.



A website called the Bronze Beta is a favourite posting site for Joss and other Buffy writers. He visited it on April 1st and one of his posts was:



“Hey, guys, so I'm writing the last episode and I'm kind of having a hard time deciding who to kill, and also some verbs. So maybe you could help me out by completing some sentences. Oh, and while we're not on

the subject, there's yet another letter (in Dreamwatch) that explains how I have SOLD OUT. Usually I let this slide, but it is making it even harder for me to write this, the final ever episode of Buffy. So if anybody in the UK knows this girl that wrote this e-mail that Dreamwatch published, would you explain the concept of fact-checking to her? I'm only human. I have my breaking point.”



I’m thinking nerve strike.



Carrie



Although his post does not appear in colour (as is usual for VIP posts), one of the BB's administrators (Narrator) confirmed that it was Joss (by his IP address) – apparently he can never remember his password so his text doesn't show up in the usual VIP colour.



The web address http://www.bronzebeta.com/Archive/BronzeArchive1049176

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I’m still in shock – I’ve never had anything published before!



Kari

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Edited by: feena191  at: 5/20/03 3:30:29 am

[kajo 2000]

feena191: Congratulations on getting your letter published. Do you know which issue of Dreamwatch it's likely to appear in? (I will look out for it anyway).



As we now know that Joss reads this magazine, he is likely to see your letter and he might even be prompted to respond to it.



It will be interesting to see if Firefly proves to be more successful in the UK than it was in the US. The Sci Fi Channel is airing all of the 15 episodes made and in the order originally intended, including the 2-hour pilot "Serenity".

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Edited by: kajo 2000 at: 5/20/03 5:19:14 am

[feena191]

Thanks kajo



It's the one that's out at the moment - my friend checked this lunchtime, but I've not seen it yet.



Feena

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How's he gonna read that magazine rolled up like that?

~ Famous last words of an insect

[sam7777]

Congrats Feena! Joss' contempt for his fans should be highlighted.

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[feena191]

I got the magazine & they published it pretty much as I wrote it, just tidied it up a bit..



BUT - they missed off the last line - "I'm thinking nerve strike"



Do you think that makes it sound less sarky than I meant it to be?



They commented underneath

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We saw that post from Joss, too, Carrie. While he has plenty of opportunites to get his point-of-view accross, including two TV shows, we felt that readers like Kim & you only have one chance to have their say: through a letter in Dreamwatch. What do other readers think?

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How's he gonna read that magazine rolled up like that?

~ Famous last words of an insect

[sam7777]

It's too true that Joss has all the opportunities to get his side out while we only get the letters page.

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Edited by: sam7777  at: 5/21/03 10:06:38 am

[kajo 2000]

feena191: While it's a shame that the editor left out that line, if the rest of your letter remains intact then the point will still have been made and Joss will come across as childish and thin-skinned for letting a single negative fan letter effect him so much.





Edited to add: Joss recently posted the following message to Buffistas.org:

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joss - May 25, 2003 3:26:19 am EDT



"What's the rumpus?"



Hi. It's late. I couldn't sleep, AGAIN, thinking about next season's first ANGEL, which I will write and direct. All aflutter. Then I came here and got to do the thing, read posts from people who are just discovering Firefly... My God, I feel something other than crappy. Thanks.



I am still fighting to make more. Amazingly enough, I may not be insane. Keep your fingers crossed. But regardless of the future, I'm so happy to see you all embracing the Firefly cast, because the next time there's a big-a$$ convention in England, I wanna bring 'em along.



They're even cuter up close.



Thanks again. And by the by, I'm afraid my commentary on the Objects in Space DVD may be the most pretentious, psuedo-intellectual twaddle in the history of me talking. If it is, do me a favor and just kinda don't mention it, okay? Really appreciate it.



-j

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Edited by: kajo 2000 at: 5/30/03 4:01:28 am

[xita]

Oh i thought he hated doing dvd commentary.... aww