Just the facts, Spin Vs reality

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Garner

will try and remember to check out the ratings for the girls gilmore for you

and speaking of ratings - ambers ep of supernatural had a nice bump up ratings wise from previous week


media week
The CW's Smallville (Overnights: #5, 3.6/ 6; Viewers: #5, 4.93 million; A18-49: #5, #4, 2.2/ 6) continues to hold its own in one of the most competitive hours in television

At 9 p.m.
The CW's Supernatural capped off the hour with a last-place 2.6/ 4 in the overnights, 3.70 million viewers and a 1.6/ 4 among adults 18-49. Considering the severity of the competition, retention for Supernatural out of Smallville of 72 percent in the overnights, 75 percent in total viewers and 73 percent among adults 18-49 was not bad. And both Smallville and Supernatural posted growth from one week earlier.




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Aly may be looking for another gig soon - the show did better in the 8:30 slot last year

as for the CW - they should have stayed with 7th heaven and everwood on mondays - now they don't have a compatable show for 7th heaven - and by moving it to sundays they just about assure that one of their strongest shows will fall off the map - when you are in the midst of trying to establish a new network - you wait till people find you before you go shifting shows around


from media week

The Monday 8 p.m. hour remains a rare sore spot for CBS, with the recently relocated How I Met Your Mother at a modest 6.4/10 in the overnights (#2), 9.25 million viewers (#2) and a 3.4/ 9 among adults 18-49 (#2), followed by flunking The Class at a 5.7/ 8 in the overnights #3), 8.70 million viewers (#3) and a 3.1/ 8 among adults 18-49 (#3) at 8:30 p.m. Comparatively, take a look at these results opposite former occupants The King of Queens and How I Met Your Mother on the year-ago evening.

CBS/Monday 8 p.m.
10/16/06 How I Met Your Mother
Overnights: 6.4/10 (#2), Viewers: 9.25 million (#2), A18-49: 3.4/ 9 (#2)

10/17/05 The King of Queens
Overnights: 7.2/11 (#1), Viewers: 10.47 million (#1), A18-49: 3.5/10 (#1)

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CBS/Monday 8:30 p.m.
10/16/06 The Class
Overnights: 5.7/ 8 (#3), Viewers: 8.70 million (#3), A18-49: 3.1/ 8 (#3)

10/17/05 How I Met Your Mother
Overnights: 6.8/10 (#3t), Viewers: 10.14 million (#2), A18-49: 3.9/10 (#1)

Although CBS could argue that the adult 18-49 performance for How I Met Your Mother is on par with the year-ago King of Queens, let's be honest: the network could be doing better here.



On the CW, original episodes of its revamped Monday sitcom block, which replaced former occupants 7th Heaven and Runaway, performed better than their recent abysmal Sunday deliveries. Everybody Hates Chris opened with a 2.5/ 4 in the overnights (#5), 3.06 million viewers (#5) and a 1.3/ 4 among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m. (#5), followed by All of Us (Overnights: #5, 2.4/ 3; Viewers: #5, 2.86 million; A18-49: #5, 1.3/ 3), Girlfriends (Overnights: #5, 2.7/ 4; Viewers: #5, 3.06 million; A18-49: #4, 1.5/ 3) and The Game (Overnights: 2.4/ 3; Viewers: #5, 2.64 million; A18-49: #5, 1.3/ 3) from 8:30-10 p.m. To put these results into perspective, take a look at the 8-10 p.m. average for the CW versus 7th Heaven and Runaway on Oct. 2, 2006 and the year-ago sitcoms on UPN. Keep in mind that 7th Heaven on that Monday averaged a noticeably higher 3.4/ 5 in the overnights, with 4.17 million viewers and a 1.5/ 4 among adults 18-49.

Monday 8-10 p.m.
The CW - 10/16/06: Everybody Hates Chris, All of Us, Girlfriends, The Game
Overnights: 2.5/ 4; Viewers: 2.91 million; A18-49: 1.3/ 3

The CW - 10/02/06: 7th Heaven, Runaway
Overnights: 2.5/ 4; Viewers: 3.01 million; A18-49: 1.2/ 3

UPN - 10/17/05: One On One, All of Us, Girlfriends, Half & Half
Overnights: 2.9/ 4; Viewers: 3.88 million; A18-49: 1.7/ 4

Particularly disappointing for the CW was Everybody Hates Chris, which declined by double-digit percentages from its former Thursday 8 p.m. time period performance.

As a reminder, total viewers and adults 18-49 from last night are based on the fast nationals. Any prior results are based on the final nationals.



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Garner - here is some info on GG's

from media week
Over at the CW, Gilmore Girls remains down but not out at a 3.8/ 6 in the overnights (#5), 4.77 million viewers (#5) and a 2.0/ 5 among adults 18-49 (#5) at 8 p.m. The comparable year-ago performance for the veteran drama on the WB was a 4.8/ 7 in the overnights, 6.08 million viewers and a 2.8/ 8 among adults 18-49 on Oct. 18, 2005. But worth noting for Gilmore Girls was a second-place time period finish among women 18-34 (3.7/10).

Veronica Mars followed with a more distant 2.1/ 3 in the overnights, 3.22 million viewers and a 1.4/ 4 among adults 18-49 at 9 p.m. But before anyone starts panicking, former UPN time period occupant Sex, Love & Secrets was considerably worse on the year-ago evening at a 1.2/ 2 in the overnights, 1.57 million viewers and a 0.7/ 2 among adults 18-49. The year-ago performance for Veronica Mars (on UPN, Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2005) was a 2.7/ 4 in the overnights, 3.03 million viewers and a 1.3/ 3 among adults 18-49. Do the math, and that's an increase of 190,000 viewers and 8 percent among adults 18-49. Veronica Mars also posted a season high among adults 18-34 (1.8/ 5), with its second best performance in adults 18-34, adults 18-49 and women 18-49. And week-to-week, Veronica was up by as much as 20 percent demographically. Yes, Veronica Mars fans -- you heard me right!


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here are supernaturals numbers for ambers ep and for the ep following ambers

ambers ep
The CW's Supernatural capped off the hour with a last-place 2.6/ 4 in the overnights, 3.70 million viewers and a 1.6/ 4 among adults 18-49. Considering the severity of the competition, retention for Supernatural out of Smallville of 72 percent in the overnights, 75 percent in total viewers and 73 percent among adults 18-49 was not bad. And both Smallville and Supernatural posted growth from one week earlier.


and here are the numbers for the following week
CW's Supernatural was a distant last-place 2.5/ 4 in the overnights, 3.26 million viewers and a 1.5/ 4 among adults 18-49. Considering the severity of the competition, Supernatural could actually be doing worse.


with amber and up from prev. wk
2.6/ 4, 3.70 million viewers 1.6/ 4 among adults 18-49.
without amber
2.5/ 4, 3.26 million viewers 1.5/ 4 adults 18-49.

I think its pretty clear amber has a following and having her on the show can only help the ratings

[sam7777]

http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/9470.html
Top 300 Comics Actual--September 2006

Another shitty spike book and another shitty sales figure:
154 SPIKE ASYLUM #1 (Of 5) $3.99 IDW 8,999

And once again only selling to friends and family:
233 ANGEL SCRIPTBOOK #7 $3.99 IDW 2,302

In my area, this shit isn't selling at my local comics shop. When will IDW get a clue.

For my part, I used to be a huge comics fan but gave up on american comics for the most part in the early 90's (last thing I read regularily was Elfquest). I now almost exclusively get manga and I'm not the only one judging from how the comics industry sales have stagnated for years now. I hate all these marketting tie ins that pass for comics these days. Why do a comic on some lousy defunct show rather than something new? It's not like it would sell less. What a waste! IMHO this is what is helping to kill the comics industry. I'd rather see fifth tier companies like IDW promote new works rather than all this licensed shit at their sales levels. At least we might be getting some new talent in the industry rather than slumming scifi and screen writers. All the ossification that Scott McCloud foresaw in his book "Reinventing Comics" has come to pass. Thankfully, there is manga that isn't mainly stuck in one main genre or white male POV. While manga doesn't have much racial diversity atleast they have gender diversity. The comics industry is due for another shakeout and I hopes this gets rid of the likes of IDW.

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for those interested in the girls gilmore

from media week
The CW, meanwhile, was at now typical Tuesday levels with its pairing of Gilmore Girls (Overnights: #5, 3.9/ 6; Viewers: #5, 4.70 million; A18-49: #5, 2.0/ 5) and Veronica Mars (Overnights: #5, 2.3/ 3; Viewers: #5, 3.31 million; A18-49: #5, 1.4/ 4). Gilmore Girls ranked second in the hour among women 18-34 (3.2/ 9) despite the noticeable year-to-year erosion. And the slowly building Veronica Mars was up by 6 percent in both total viewers and women 18-49 (1.9/ 5) from one week earlier, with retention out of Gilmore Girls of 81 percent among target adults 18-34. So, how about it CW? How about a full season renewal already?

[Garner]

Thanks HIP, the numbers do seem down a bit from last year, but that is to be expected given the dissatisfaction with last season. Still, things aren't going too badly and VM does seem to be gaining a bit over its UPN numbers which shouldn't be too big of a surprise. Hopefully renewals are in the works.

Looks like Supernatural is doing OK, up against CSI and Grey's Anatomy is rough, those are the two most watched shows, making anything up against them likely to have low ratings. I wonder if anyone will connect Amber's following or not in Hollywood. Probably not, which is too bad.

The current wave of Spike and Angel comics have been more ignorable and less interesting. Given IDW probably has to either share profit or pay for license one would think new titles would work better and at least give them more profit, but apparently they aren't big on that. Comic sales are actually up over the last few years, but, and it is a big but, they are nowhere what they used to be in the 90s when there was a lot of bloat from speculation. And less competition from the www and to a lessor extent manga. How long IDW will last is anyone's guess. Some companies, like Crossgen, can have very good and original titles and then make really stupid business mistakes and fold, no matter how decent their titles might be.

Garner

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Hi Garner

I caught part of the GG's this week - not sure if it was the dialogue - the delivery - or both - but it just didn't seem like the pace of the show was the same as previous years


as for the new CW - who would have ever thought their numbers 4.8/7 would best NBC's 4.2/7

from media week
Beginning with 8 p.m., ABC mega-hit Dancing With the Stars danced to another stellar time period victory (great segue, don't you think?) with a 13.4/21 in the overnights, 19.86 million viewers and a 5.1/14 among adults 18-49. Congratulations to the ultimate pro, Jerry Springer, who beat the odds and lasted longer than anyone thought. CBS' competing Jericho also remains a show worth touting, with a respectable 6.8/11 in the overnights, 10.54 million viewers and a 3.2/ 9 among adults 18-49. And the CW's rock-solid America's Next Top Model lives up to that description, with a 4.8/ 7 in the overnights (#3), 5.48 million viewers (#4) and a 2.7/ 8 among adults 18-49 (#3). Keep in mind, of course, that Top Model's primary strength comes from the young female viewers, and that Jericho is a marked improvement over year-ago occupants Still Standing and Yes, Dear.

With three solid shows in one time period, there was not much left for NBC's Thursday-bound 30 Rock (Overnights: #4, 4.2/ 7; Viewers: #3, 6.01 million; A18-49: #4, 2.1/ 6) and the hiatus-bound 20 Good Years (Overnights: #5, 3.9/ 6; Viewers: #3, 5.40 million; A18-49: #5, 2.0/ 5).

Fox replaced rained-out game four of The World Series with four repeat episodes of sitcom The War at Home, which averaged a 4.2/ 6 in the overnights (#4), 5.52 million viewers (#4) and a 2.0/ 5 among adults 18-49 (#5) from 8-10 p.m. As a reminder, total viewers and adults 18-49 are based on the fast national ratings.

At 9 p.m., there are now two shows dominating the hour, ABC's Lost and CBS' Criminal Minds. Take a look:

Wednesday 9 p.m.
Lost (ABC)
Overnights: 11.5/17 (#1t), Viewers: 16.80 million (#1); A18-49: 6.9/17 (#1)

Criminal Minds (CBS)
Overnights: 11.5/17 (31t), Viewers: 16.59 million (#2); A18-49: 4.4/11 (#2)

Criminal Minds, of course, is up by double-digit percentages year-to-year, while Lost is just the opposite. As for last night's episode of Lost, all I can say is it was one of the best I have ever seen. Too bad, again, that ABC is making the mistake of taking it off for three months in place of upcoming drama Day Break, which debuts on Nov. 15.

Elsewhere at 9 p.m. was NBC's The Biggest Loser (Overnights: #3, 5.2/ 8; Viewers: #3, 7.86 million; A18-49: #3, 3.4/ 9), which built from 20 Good Years by an ample 33 percent in the overnights, 2.4 million viewers and 70 percent among adults 18-49, and the CW's One Tree Hill (Overnights: #5, 2.7/ 4; Viewers: #5, 3.57 million; A18-49: #5, 1.6/ 4). Retention for One Tree Hill out of America's Next Top Model was a modest 56 percent in the overnights, 65 percent in total viewers and 59 percent among adults 18-49.

With a stronger lead-in (and no competition from ABC), CBS' CSI: NY continues to benefit at 10 p.m., with a dominant 11.6/19 in the overnights, 17.06 million viewers and a 5.4/15 among adults 18-49. ABC clinker The Nine sunk even further, with a last-place 5.7/ 9 in the overnights, 8.02 million viewers and a 3.1/ 8 among adults 18-49. Comparably, that put retention for The Nine out of Lost of just 50 percent in the overnights, 48 percent in total viewers and 45 percent among adults 18-49. Had ABC known, it could have left former cult favorite Invasion in the time period. Food for thought for ABC: Considering how much is going on during Lost, how about something less intensive at 10 p.m.?

Also at 10 p.m. was NBC's relocated Dateline at a second-place 5.9/ 9 in the overnights, 8.66 million viewers and a 3.2/ 9 among adults 18-49, which is a noticeable improvement over former occupant Kidnapped.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

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from media week

The CW vs. UPN and the WB:
Five weeks into the new season, the CW is reporting growth over the year-ago average for the WB (with regularly scheduled programming) of 6 percent among adults 18-34 (1.7/ 5 vs. 1.6/ 5) and 5 percent among women 18-34 (2.2/ 7 vs. 2.1/ 7). The CW mirrors The WB's scheduling model with 6 nights and 13 hours of prime time programming. Compared to UPN (which programmed only 10 hours), the CW is on par in all key demos.

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Joel Silver is starting a new project. Guess he might as well as Whedon's Wonder Woman continues to go nowhere:
http://www.cinematical.com/2006/11/13/joel-silver-builds-an-empire/

Joel Silver Builds an Empire

These days, Hollywood has taken the much-coveted built-in-audience to new levels, acquiring properties wayyy before they arrive on the streets. A good example would be Joel Silver's latest venture; the famed producer has gone and optioned Empire, an upcoming book and video game series, with hopes to adapt the thing into a feature film (dare I attach the word 'franchise' to the end of that last sentence).

Along with author Orson Scott Card, Donald and Geremy Mustard (of Chair Entertainment Group) worked to develop a video game prototype of Empire, which will first be seen in book form when it's released on November 28. Silver Pictures then snatched up the rights, and will work alongside Warner Bros. in an attempt to turn it into a huge action film. Oh, but not before the comic book. That's right, they're spreading this bad boy all over the place -- first the book, then the comic book, then the movie and, finally, the video game. All will take place within the same universe as the book, but at different points in the story.

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Bones got a nice compliment from media week recently as the only show working for fox these days - good for DB!
and CW has found a combination of shows that works for sunday


from media week
2006:
Freshman Series Update
What follows is the latest update on the freshman class of 2006-07:

-The Knights of Prosperity: expected to debut in January
-Big Day (Tues. 9 p.m.): premiering on Nov. 28
-Help Me Help You (Tues. 9:30 p.m.): four more scripts ordered
-The Nine (Wed. 9 p.m.): four more scripts ordered
-Ugly Betty (Thurs. 8 p.m.): full season renewal
-Six Degrees (Thurs. 10 p.m.): on hiatus; expected to return in a new time period in January
-Men in Trees (Fri. 9 p.m.): full season renewal; moving to Thursday at 10 p.m. on Nov. 30
-Brothers & Sisters (Sun. 10 p.m.): full season renewal


-The Class (Mon. 8:30 p.m.): more scripts ordered.
-Smith (Tues. 10 p.m.): canceled
-Jericho (Wed. 8 p.m.): full season renewal; heading to hiatus until February.
-Shark (Thurs. 10 p.m.): full season renewal

-Heroes (Mon. 9 p.m.): full season renewal
-Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (Mon. 10 p.m.): full season renewal
-Friday Night Lights (Tues. 8 p.m.): full season renewal; in search of a new time period
-30 Rock (Thurs. 9:30 p.m.): off to a weak start on Thursday
-20 Good Years (Wed. 8:30 p.m.): canceled
-Kidnapped (Sat. 9 p.m.): canceled and shipped to the web for the final episodes

-Justice (Mon. 9 p.m.): canceled; finishing its run Friday at 8 p.m.
-Standoff (Tues. 8 p.m.): six more episodes ordered
-'Til Death (Thurs. 8 p.m.): full season renewal
-Happy Hour (Thurs. 8:30 p.m.): canceled
-Vanished (Fri. 8 p.m.): canceled

-The Game (Mon. 9:30 p.m.): full season renewal
-Runaway (Sun. 9 p.m.): canceled
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CW picks up steam on Sunday

The two-episode season-premiere of the veteran comedy (Reba) led the CW to its best ratings to-date in the Sunday 7 p.m. hour in total viewers (3.9 million), adults 18-34 (1.3/ 4), adults 18-49 (1.4/ 4), women 18-34 (1.8/ 6) and women 18-49 (1.8/ 5). With Reba as its lead-in, recently relocated 7th Heaven lifted the network to its best ratings in the Sunday 8 p.m. hour in total viewers (4.5 million), adults 18-34 (1.6/ 4), adults 18-49 (1.7/ 4), women 18-34 (2.5/ 7) and women 18-49 (2.5/ 6). Comparatively, that was up week-to-week by 25 percent in total viewers and as much as 21 percent demographically. Overall, the CW outperformed the WB on the year-ago evening by 8 percent among adults 18-34 and a hefty 33 percent among women 18-34.

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Hello Kittens-

HIP, you do find some darn interesting things! Then you make then understandable. Cool!

Every year that passes seems to bring more 'wunderkinds' to replace the last fashionable batch. Is it me or are there more freshman survivors this year?

Thanks again HIP,

Jixer

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thanks Jixer,

haven't run the numbers but there does seem to be more frosh survivors this year - but then maybe it seems that way because of the UPN/WB merge - which leaves fewer total new shows? (see below for score card on new shows)


and for those who had asked how the girls gilmore were faring now that the original creative team is gone - well - handwritting is on the wall folks

from media week

The CW's deteriorating Gilmore Girls ranked fourth in the overnights, with a 3.6/ 6 at 8 p.m. -- 28 percent below its performance on the WB on the year-ago evening (5.0/ 8 on Nov. 22, 2005). That led into Veronica Mars, the show everyone loves, but few people watch, at a mere 1.9/ 3 at 9 p.m. Overnight retention for Veronica Mars out of Gilmore Girls was just 53 percent


also from media week

Week of November 13, 2006
The CW remained down from both UPN and the WB on the year-ago week.

Week of Nov. 13, 2006
The CW
Households: 2.4 rating/ 4 share; Viewers: 3.66 million; A18-49: 1.5 rating/ 4 share


Week of Nov. 14, 2005
UPN:
Households: 2.7/ 4; Viewers: 4.15 million; A18-49: 1.7/ 4

WB
Households: 2.5/ 4; Viewers: 3.82 million; A18-49: 1.6/ 4

Three midseason entries made their debuts this week - ABC's Show Me the Money and Day Break, and CBS drama 3 Lbs. Although the 90-minute preview of Show Me the Money rated the highest (see chart below), erosion out of Dancing With the Stars on Tuesday was a mammoth 14.41 million viewers and 49 percent among adults 18-49. 3 Lbs. opposite the 10-11 p.m. portion of Show Me the Money performed no better than recent failed occupant Smith, while the two-hour launch of drama Day Break on Wednesday was no Lost, with 10.16 million viewers, a 3.6 rating/ 9 share among adults 18-49, and erosion in every half hour.

In season-premiere news, the two episode return of the CW's Reba jump-started the Sunday 7 p.m. hour, with an ample 4.02 million viewers and a 1.5/ 4 among adults 18-49. Comparatively, that was the CW's best performance to-date in the hour. With an improved lead-in, recently relocated 7th Heaven rose to a season-high 4.51 million viewers with a 1.7/ 4 among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m.


As for the freshman class of 2006-07, CBS' Shark moved into the top spot in total viewers (8.87 million behind lead-in CSI), while Heroes remained No. 1 among adults 18-49. Pre-empted this week were Help Me Help You (ABC), Justice (Fox), Men In Trees (ABC), The Nine (Fox) and Vanished (Fox).

Shark (CBS: Thurs. 10 p.m.)
Viewers: 15.24 million (#15), A18-49: 4.4 rating/ 12 share (#22)

Heroes (NBC, Mon. 9 p.m.)
Viewers: 15.08 million (#16), A18-49: 6.5/16 (#6)

Brothers & Sisters (ABC, Sun. 10 p.m.)
Viewers: 13.04 million (#22). A18-49: 5.4/13 (#12t)

Ugly Betty (ABC, Thurs. 8 p.m.)
Viewers: 12.95 million (#23), A18-49: 3.9/11 (#28t)

Show Me the Money (ABC, Tues. 9:30-11 p.m.) - premiere
Viewers: 12.39 million (#28), A18-49: 3.8/10 (#32t)

Day Break (ABC, Wed. 9-11 p.m.) - premiere
Viewers: 10.16 million (#34), A18-49: 3.6/ 9 (#35t)

3 Lbs. (CBS, Tues. 10 p.m.) - premiere
Viewers: 9.86 million (#37), A18-49: 2.9/ 8 (#52t)

Jericho (CBS, Wed. 8 p.m.)
Viewers: 9.34 million (#40). A18-49: 2.9/ 8 (#52t)

The Class (CBS, Mon. 8:30 p.m.)
Viewers: 8.44 million (#51), A18-49: 3.0/ 8 (#50t)

Friday Night Lights (NBC, Tues. 8 p.m.)
Viewers: 5.48 million (#73), A18-49: 2.3/ 6 (#65t)

30 Rock (NBC, Thurs. 9:15 p.m.)
Viewers: 5.19 million (#75), A18-49: 2.4/ 6 (#63t)

Standoff (Fox, Tues. 8 p.m.)
Viewers: 4.64 million (#80), A18-49: 2.0/ 5 (#71t)

'Til Death (Fox, Thurs. 8 p.m.)
Viewers: 4.55 million (#81), A18-49: 1.8/ 5 (#78t)

The Game (CW, Mon. 9:30 p.m.)
Viewers: 2.43 million (#98), A18-49: 1.1/ 3 (#98)



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there may be hope for veronica

GG's picked up this week and it carried over to VM

Record Veronica Mars:
The CW's Veronica Mars on Tuesday rose to its best ratings ever among adults 18-34 (2.0/ 5) and adults 18-49 (1.6/ 4), with its second largest audience to-date (3.4 million) and second highest ratings among key women 18-34 (2.6/ 7) and women 18-49 (2.0/ 5). Part of that growth can be attributed to lead-in Gilmore Girls at a season-high finish in total viewers (4.9 million), adults 18-34 (2.6/ 8) adults 18-49 (2.2/ 6).



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for those keeping tabs

Fall 2006: Freshman Series Update
With more changes announced, what follows is the latest update on the freshman class of 2006-07:

-Big Day (Tues. 9 p.m.): lackluster performance after two telecasts
-Brothers & Sisters (Sun. 10 p.m.): full season renewal
-Help Me Help You (Tues. 9:30 p.m.): huge erosion without the lead-in support of Dancing With the
Stars
-The Knights of Prosperity: debuting Wed., Jan. 3 at 9 p.m. ET
-Men in Trees (Thurs. 10 p.m.): full season renewal; 11.34 million viewers (out of 24.01 for lead-in
Grey's Anatomy) for its Thursday debut on Nov. 30
-Six Degrees (Thurs. 10 p.m.): on hiatus, not on the January schedule
-The Nine (Wed. 9 p.m.): on hiatus, not on the January schedule
-Ugly Betty (Thurs. 8 p.m.): full season renewal

-The Class (Mon. 8:30 p.m.): not expected back for a second season
-Jericho (Wed. 8 p.m.): full season renewal; on hiatus until February.
-Shark (Thurs. 10 p.m.): full season renewal
-Smith (Tues. 10 p.m.): canceled; replacement 3 Lbs. also already axed

-Friday Night Lights (Tues. 8 p.m.): moving to Wednesday at 8 p.m. on Jan. 10
-Heroes (Mon. 9 p.m.): full season renewal
-Kidnapped (Sat. 8 p.m.): canceled and shipped to the web for the final episodes
-Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (Mon. 10 p.m.): full season renewal despite modest ongoing delivery
-20 Good Years (Wed. 8:30 p.m.): canceled
-30 Rock (Thurs. 9:30 p.m.): poor performance to-date in new Thursday time period

-Happy Hour (Thurs. 8:30 p.m.): canceled
-Justice (Wed. 9 p.m.): canceled; burning off remaining episodes on Friday
-Standoff (Tues. 8 p.m.): six more episodes ordered despite lackluster delivery
-'Til Death (Thurs. 8 p.m.): waiting for the axe to swing
-Vanished (Mon 8 p.m.): canceled


CW

-The Game (Mon. 9:30 p.m.): full season renewal
-Runaway (Sun. 9 p.m.): canceled

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its that time of year again - when new shows are being pitched/picked up

wonder if amber will get a pilot this year

Pilot Orders at NBC and the CW:
As we head into pilot season, NBC has added two more hours to its potential pick-up slate - Lipstick Jungle, a comedy about three professional women who will do anything to get ahead; and an untitled drama from Peter Blake and David Shore about a group of police officers with a female cop at the center. The CW, meanwhile, is looking into Wild at Heart, a drama about a suburban vet and his extended family who try to reinvent their lives on a game park in Africa.

[Hemiola]

I couldn't help but smile after reading about the "Wild At Heart" series in your post--I know it reveals my age but it brings to mind a marvelous old series from the 60s called "Daktari". I wonder why they never show it anymore (on Nickolodeon or TVLand)?

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so here is the latest from media week

The CW opened its executive session on Friday with hope, optimism and promises for more original programming in 2007-08. According to Dawn Ostroff, president, entertainment, the CW: "We've said from the beginning that we were being realistic about our expectations because we knew that it would take some time for our viewers to actually find the CW. Now we're at the midseason point and we still believe in being patient, but we're adding a new word: momentum. Since our launch, we've had steady ratings growth for many of our series as viewers continue to find us. Shows like Top Model, Veronica Mars and Beauty and the Geek have had some of their best ratings ever. And One Tree Hill recently hit its highest ratings in two years."

Unfortunately, the return of Fox's American Idol has now stalled some of that recently found momentum. One Tree Hill, in fact, plummeted to a season-low 2.20 million viewers opposite Idol on Wednesday, Jan. 17.

The CW is in discussions to keep veteran Gilmore Girls on the air for another season, and the network is high on a number of pilots in contention for next season, including a drama called Gossip Girl from the creator of The O.C., Josh Schwartz; and Wild at Heart, another drama about a New York veterinarian and his family who move to a wildlife preserve in South Africa. As for the rumors that the CW was picking up Fox's now canceled The O.C.:

"Obviously, it came up. But we really didn't think it made sense for us for several reasons," said Ostroff. "And we're excited about Josh's new show."

In other news at the CW:

-The next cycle of America's Next Top Model will begin on Wednesday, Feb. 28 with a two-hour season-premiere.

-Midseason reality/competition Pussycat Dolls: The Search for the Next Doll will debut on Tuesday, March 6 at 9 p.m. (out of lead-in Gilmore Girls). Pussycat Dolls will pre-empt current occupant Veronica Mars for eight weeks, which will return in early May for the first of five self-contained episodes. Prospects for a fourth season of Veronica Mars will, no doubt, be heavily dependent on the ratings for these potentially final episodes. The CW is also expected to officially end veteran 7th Heaven this spring.

-The CW will keep its Monday night sitcom line-up intact for next season, but there could be some potential programming changes. One show that is confirmed to return is Everybody Hates Chris, which was given a 22-episode order.

-The CW will introduce Crowned, an eight-episode reality/competition that features multiple mother-daughter teams working together as pairs to win a beauty pageant. The team "crowned" the winner will receive $100,000 and representation to appear at charity events across the country. No air-date has been announced yet.

-Effective immediately, episodes of the CW's Monday night comedies, Beauty and the Geek, Veronica Mars, One Tree Hill and Supernatural will be available free to viewers (and presented with limited commercial interruption) at www.CWTV.com. Each episode will be streamed on the website for up to four weeks following their telecast on the network.


In other news, Fox will introduce three new series - two dramas and one sitcom - this spring, while freshman entries 'Til Death and Standoff and sophomore comedy The War at Home will move to new time periods.

New dramedy The Wedding Bells, which focuses on a family-owned wedding planning business, will debut on Friday, March 9 at 9 p.m. following a preview on Wednesday, March 7 (out of American Idol). The Winner, the first live-action comedy from Family Guy creator Seth MacFarlane, will launch with two episodes on Sunday, March 4 at 8:30 p.m. and 9:30 p.m. ET. It will remain in those two time periods on March 11 and March 18 until the return of King of the Hill and American Dad on March 25. New drama Drive, which tells the story of a diverse group of people who participate in an underground cross-country road race, will preview with a two-hour episode on Sunday, April 15 at 8 p.m. ET. One night later it debuts on Monday, April 16 at 8 p.m. ET.

Fox will also launch a new comically driven game show called Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader, which goes into production this week, at some point later this season.

Til Death, the struggling sitcom headlined by former Everybody Loves Raymond star Brad Garrett, will move to Wednesdays on March 14 at 9:30 p.m. Sophomore sitcom The War at Home is relocating to Sunday at 7:30 p.m. on March 4, and the recently introduced Standoff to Friday at 8 p.m. on March 30. Nothing, meanwhile, has been confirmed for Thursday. Sitcom The Loop, which premiered last spring, will return at a later time with 10 new episodes.

What follows is Fox's revised spring schedule:

Monday
8:00 p.m. Prison Break / Drive (premieres on April 16)
9:00 p.m. 24

Tuesday
8:00 p.m. American Idol
9:00 p.m. House

Wednesday
8:00 p.m. Bones
9:00 p.m. American Idol
9:30 p.m. 'Til Death

Thursday
8:00 p.m. TBA
9:00 p.m. TBA

Friday
8:00 p.m. Standoff (new time period effective on March 30)
9:00 p.m. The Wedding Bells (premieres on March 9)

Saturday
8:00 p.m. Cops
9:00 p.m. America's Most Wanted

Sunday
7:00 p.m. Sitcom Repeats
7:30 p.m. The War at Home (new time period effective on March 4)
8:00 p.m. The Simpsons
8:30 p.m. The Winner (premieres on March 4) / King of the Hill (returns on March 25)
9:00 p.m. American Dad
9:30 p.m. The Winner (premieres on March 4) / American Dad (returns on March 25)

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a return next year doesn't look good for VM or the Girls Gilmore

from media week

the CW's veteran Gilmore Girls (3.5/ 5). To the fans -- or non-fans -- of Gilmore Girls debating whether the show should return next season, note that its year-ago overnight performance on the WB was a heftier 4.4/ 6 (and that was also opposite American Idol). I vote to let Gilmore Girls exit while it still has some dignity left.

Rounding off the 9 p.m. hour was the CW's Veronica Mars at a depressed 1.9/ 3, with retention out of Gilmore Girls of just 54 percent. Year-ago WB occupant Supernatural averaged a 3.2/ 4 in the overnights (out of a 4.4/ 6 for Gilmore Girls). Sorry folks, but this certainly does not make Veronica Mars worthy of a fourth season renewal.

to see what media week is saying about pilots in development check out
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/57510492

I was hoping to find amber or CC listed for one or two of these pilots but haven't found anything yet

[WebWarlock]

JumpTheShark.com is back up and taking votes again.

http://www.jumptheshark.com/

Why not vote a few times for old time sake.
I would love to see that go past "never jumped"

Warlock

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Bones is doing well - Lost is fading and the CW's model/pussy cat combo is a winner


from media week

Led by the live half-hour American Idol results show (17.2 rating/26 share at 9 p.m.), Fox remained on the Wednesday forefront, with CBS landing in the distant No. 2 spot as a result of a lackluster Jericho and repeats of Criminal Minds and CSI: NY. Third in the overnights was NBC (one-tenth of a rating point ahead of ABC), followed by the CW.

Beginning with 8 p.m., sleeper success Bones on Fox remained just that, with a dominant 7.2 rating/12 share in the overnights. With Idol at 9 p.m., the potential pre-tune-in factor lifted Bones to a 7.7/12 at 8:30 p.m. (6.7/11 to 7.2/12). Second was NBC's Dateline (6.0/10), followed by CBS' once renewal worthy Jericho at a modest 5.3/ 9. Capping off the 8 p.m. hour were The CW's still potent America's Next Top Model (4.7/ 8), and ABC's George Lopez (4.5/ 7) and a repeat of According to Jim (4.0/ 6).

At 9 p.m., Fox's aforementioned American Idol led the half hour with a whopping 17.2/26 -- 123 percent above the second half of lead-in Bones. That led into the time period premiere of the creatively improved 'Til Death at an also first-place 9.4/14 at 9:30 p.m., with retention out of Idol of a modest 55 percent. While the retention could certainly be better, that was needless to say a series-high for 'Til Death.

Second in the 9 p.m. hour was a repeat of CBS' Criminal Minds (8.0/12), followed by NBC's recently relocated (and waiting to be potentially axed) Crossing Jordan (5.7/ 9), ABC sitcoms According To Jim (3.9/ 6) and In Case of Emergency (3.3/ 5), and a repeat of The CW's Pussycat Dolls Present: The Search for the Next Doll (3.0/ 5). Leading out of Top Model (and away from a full hour of American Idol), the Pussycat Dolls second-run actually built from its original telecast from one night earlier (2.2/ 3 on March 13) by 36 percent.

For anyone who missed the announcement of ABC's upcoming Wednesday schedule changes, long-delayed sitcom Notes From the Underbelly, which takes a comedic look at parenthood (and was supposed to launch last fall), will debut on Wednesday, April 11 at 9:30 p.m. It replaces current occupant In Case of Emergency, which is expected to return at a later time to air its final two episodes. Seven out of the 13 episodes of Notes of the Underbelly will air until late May when ABC does an entire revamp of the evening.

Effective on Wednesday, May 30, ABC will kick-off non-scripted competition The Next Best Thing: Who is the Greatest Celebrity Impersonator?, which follows the search to find the best celebrity impersonators across the country, with a two-hour installment beginning at 8 p.m. ET. At 10 p.m. ET (and in place of Lost, which concludes its current season one week earlier) is the premiere of scripted drama Traveler, which follows two best friends who are framed for a domestic terrorist attack by another "friend." One week later is the return of reality/competition American Inventor, which opens season No. 2 at 9 p.m. ET on June 6.

ABC's Lost (an excellent episode, by the way) led the 10 p.m. hour, with an 8.3/13 in the overnights. But that performance is still down by double-digit percentages from its recent run at 9 p.m., and by next season the novelty will probably have completely worn off. Second in the overnights in the hour was a repeat of CBS' CSI: NY (7.7/12), followed by a repeat of NBC's Medium at a 4.7/ 8. Now that The Black Donnellys is a bust on Monday, How about moving back to Monday (out of the compatible Heroes), NBC?

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

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for the ver. mars fans

The CW has confirmed the return dates for Veronica Mars and One Tree Hill, which were both bumped for current reality/competition Pussycat Dolls Presents: The Search for the Next Doll. Veronica Mars will be back for a series of self-contained episodes beginning on Tuesday, May 1 at 9 p.m. ET, while One Tree Hill returns on Wednesday, May 2, also at 9 p.m. ET. Although both series are waiting word on renewal, serial One Tree Hill seems like a safer bet

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doesn't look good for VMars or the Girls Gilmore


from media week

Ratings Breakdown:
Led by the one-two punch of American Idol and House, there was no stopping Fox on this third Tuesday in April. Dancing With the Stars-ignited ABC was second in the overnights, followed by CBS, NBC and The CW.

American Idol opened the evening for Fox with a rock-solid 16.1 rating/25 share at 8 p.m. One year earlier, Idol scored a similar 16.9/26. Second in the hour was a repeat of CBS' NCIS at a still respectable 7.8/12, followed by a repeat of ABC's Dancing With the Stars (5.3/ 8), NBC's Dateline (4.1/ 6), and veteran Gilmore Girls on The CW (2.8/ 4). Although there is a rumor circulating that Gilmore Girls will return for a final 13 episodes next season, considering that the overnights were down by 28 percent year-to-year (2.8/ 4 vs. 3.9/ 6 on the WB on April 18, 2006), why even bother?
Fox's House kept the winning momentum alive at 9 p.m., with a 14.5/21 in the overnights (and retention of 90 percent out of American Idol). But the Dancing With the Stars Results Show also deserves accolades on ABC, with a healthy 11.9/17. We'll miss you, Clyde!

Third in the 9 p.m. hour was a repeat of CBS' The Unit (4.6/ 7), followed by a repeat of NBC's Law & Order: Criminal Intent (4.4/ 6), and Pussycat Dolls Present: The Search For the Next Doll (2.5/ 4) on The CW, which maintained 89 percent of its Gilmore Girls lead-in.




May update

-Percent Change From the Comparable Year-Ago Evening (Monday 5/01/06)
(The CW is compared to UPN's combination of One On One, All of Us, Girlfriends and Half & Half)
ABC: +81, CBS: - 8, CW: -12, Fox: -19, NBC: -20


-Ratings Breakdown:
Led by Dancing With the Stars, ABC opened the week on another winning note, with a metered market advantage over No. 2 CBS of 21 percent. Third in the overnights was NBC, followed by Fox and lowly The CW. Although ABC is a shoo-in to also win the evening in total viewers, the race for dominance among adults 18-49 will be closer.

An expanded one hour and 45-minute edition of ABC's Dancing With the Stars stood well above the competition, with a 13.2 rating/20 share in the overnights from 8-9:45 p.m. Second behind Dancing's 12.5/20 from 8-9 p.m. was NBC game show Deal or No Deal, at a 7.7/12. Comparably, Deal or No Deal averaged a healthier 9.2/14 in the overnights on the year-ago Monday. Third in the hour was a repeat of Fox's House (5.1/ 8), followed by CBS sitcoms How I Met Your Mother (4.9/ 8) and The New Adventures of Old Christine (4.9/ 7), and The CW's Everybody Hates Chris (2.1/ 3) and All of Us (1.9/ 3). Given this is the pivotal renewal time, lackluster returns may not bode well for Old Christine or All of Us. For some strange reason, CBS seems to think that How I Met Your Mother is a hit.

The last 45-minutes of Dancing With the Stars combined with the first 15-minutes of The Bachelor: An Officer and a Gentleman lifted ABC to a first place 12.3/18 from 9-10 p.m. Second in the hour were CBS sitcoms Two and a Half Men (8.5/12) and soon-to-sadly-depart The King of Queens (8.3/12), followed by NBC's Heroes (7.6/11), Fox's 24 (7.2/11), and CW comedies Girlfriends (2.2/ 3) and The Game (2.0/ 3). Mirroring Gilmore Girls on Tuesday, chances are The CW will bring back veteran Girlfriends for a final season in 2007-08.


Source: Nielsen Media Research data

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With VM, the camdens and GG's gone - there won't be much need for me to tune into the CW anymore


Sci Fi Channel
Ignited by original episodes of Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis and Painkiller Jane, Sci Fi Channel increased among younger viewers for the ninth consecutive month, with growth of as much as 41 percent among women 18-34. Sci Fi Channel posted gains on six nights of the week, with a record April among men/women/adults 18-34.

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Start Packing, Veronica:
The CW's on-the-bubble Veronica Mars returned to the schedule on Tuesday with a mere 2.35 million viewers and a 1.0 rating/3 share among adults 18-49. Comparably, retention out of lead-in Gilmore Girls (Viewers: 4.08 million; A18-49: 1.8/ 5) was just 58 percent in total viewers and 56 percent in the demo.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data



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Breaking news: "Gilmore Girls" a goner***
Stars Hollow is fading to black.

Yes, it's true. Minutes ago, Variety shipped out the alert that The CW has cancelled "Gilmore Girls."

For a time that there was hope that the show would continue for an eighth and perhaps shorter season with new show runner David S. Rosenthal at the helm with stars Lauren Graham and Alexis Bledel in place, but apparently that is not to be.

The final episode of "Gilmore" will air at 8 p.m. May 15 on KSTW/11.

Last summer in Pasadena, Graham unequivocably set her conditions for going on.

"The thing I've always talked about is I don't want to be in a situation where I feel sorry for me, you
know," she told TV critics. "Because I've seen that happen to actors and to shows where the thing is done. It's done. Let it be over, you know."

Good on her for knowing when to let go.

"This series helped define a network and created a fantastic, storybook world featuring some of television's most memorable, lovable characters," read a press release from The CW and Warner Bros. Television. "We thank Amy Sherman-Palladino, Dan Palladino, Dave Rosenthal, the amazing cast led by Lauren Graham and Alexis Bledel, as well as the producers, writers and crew for giving us this delightful gem for the past seven years."

"We would also like to thank the critics and 'Gilmore' fans for their passionate support and promise to give this series the send-off it deserves." We certainly hope that last bit is true, because the fans deserves nothing less.

Pull out those hankies. You're entitled to a good sniffle. But folks, trust me. It's better this way.

The series you used to love, the one that sailed on the buoyant humor and strength of Rory and Lorelai's unconventional mother-daughter relationship, withered away when the Palladinos jumped ship last May.

Rosenthal gave it a decent go. I was hard on the premiere, and still stand what I wrote last September. I also must admit this season had its moments. But no amount of the characters' motormouth gymnastics could disguise the hollow, imitative quality of what passed for verve and wit.

Worse, Rosenthal reacted to the Palladinos' vengeful kiss-off of putting Lorelai in bed with her ex, Christopher, by completely betraying the Lorelai-Luke relationship. Producers threw up roadblocks that were completely unbelievable, with Lorelai and Christopher's Paris elopement pretty much being the last straw. Though steps have been taken to heal the rift, lately the show has been feeling, in the words of a co-worker, a little played out.

This is distressing news all around. One more piece of innovative. smart, family-friendly TV is gone -- in all likelihood, taking another series with resilient, intelligent female characters, "Veronica Mars," with it. But we'll address that another time.

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for the VMars fans - looks like they will try and retool the show - not sure how well that worked for buffy - but it should be interesting to see Bell as an FBI agent

Fans of Veronica Mars, Take Note:
Although you might think a season to-date average of just 2.57 million viewers (No. 188 out of 200 shows) and a 1.1/ 3 among adults 18-49 (tied for No. 186) would warrant cancellation, three-year-old Veronica Mars is being retooled for a potential fourth season. In the new scenario, the show would flash ahead to a few years into the future with Veronica (Kristen Bell) studying at the FBI Academy.


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can't say I'm much impressed with the fall CW

from media week

The CW in 2007-08:
Six New Fall Series; Changes on Five Nights of the Week

The CW will head into its sophomore season on an aggressive note, with six new prime time series (three dramas, one sitcom and two non-scripted half-hours) impacting five nights of the week. The highest profile of the freshman mix, drama Gossip Girl, will air in the network's protected Wednesday 9 p.m. time period out of America's Next Top Model. Former midseason entry Beauty and the Geek has been promoted to the fall and designated as the Tuesday anchor into Buffy, the Vampire-like new drama Reaper. Monday will feature long-awaited sitcom Aliens in America at 8:30 p.m. out of Everybody Hates Chris and into Girlfriends and surprise returnee The Game. And Sunday will be completely revamped from 7-9 p.m., with the non-scripted Online Nation and CW Now in the 7 p.m. hour, followed by new drama Life is Wild.

Thursday and Friday will remain unchanged, while encore telecasts of America's Next Top Model will remain Sunday at 9 p.m. The CW has also announced four series in midseason, including reality/competitions Farmer Wants a Wife and Crowned: The Mother of all Pageants, and the return of One Tree Hill and Pussycat Dolls Present. Missing from the line-up (in addition to the already announced departures of 7th Heaven and Gilmore Girls) are three-year-old sitcom All of Us and the critically acclaimed, but ratings-starved Veronica Mars.

Here is The CW's fall 2007 primetime schedule with new shows bolded in caps, followed by the new program descriptions:

Monday
8:00 p.m. Everybody Hates Chris
8:30 p.m. ALIENS IN AMERICA
9:00 p.m. Girlfriends
9:30 p.m. The Game

Tuesday
8:00 p.m. Beauty and the Geek (new day and time)
9:00 p.m. REAPER

Wednesday
8:00 p.m. America's Next Top Model
9:00 p.m. GOSSIP GIRL

Thursday
8:00 p.m. Smallville
9:00 p.m. Supernatural

Friday
8:00 p.m. Friday Night Smackdown!

Sunday
7:00 p.m. ONLINE NATION
7:30 p.m. CW NOW
8:00 p.m. LIFE IS WILD
9:00 p.m. America's Next Top Model (repeats)


New CW Program Descriptions

Dramas

GOSSIP GIRL
Based on the series of young adult novels of the same name, the lives of a privileged, but dysfunctional group of prep school teens on Manhattan's Upper West Side is the focus. Being super-rich and super-popular are not necessarily synonymous with finding true happiness. The cast includes Penn Badgley, Chace Crawfrod, Blake Lively, Leighton Meester, Taylor Momsen, Matthew Settle and former Melrose Place star Kelly Rutherford.

LIFE IS WILD
A blended family living in New York City relocate to spend a year at a broken-down lodge in a game reserve deep inside South Africa. Outsiders at first, the family begins to appreciate the breathtaking scenery, the enchanting locals, and the vibrant culture surrounding them. Brett Cullen (Friday Night Lights) leads the ensemble cast.

REAPER
When a 21-year-old slacker (Bret Harrison) learns that his parents sold his soul to the devil before he was even born, he must now serve as a bounty hunter, tracking down evil souls that have escaped and returning them to Hell. With his friends and trusty vessel-of-the-week at his side, Sam is ready to face his destiny as the Reaper.

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Comedy

ALIENS IN AMERICA
A sensitive, nerdy 16-year old (Justin Tolchuk) trying to make it through high school with the help of his well-meaning family finds his world turned upside down when a Pakistani exchange student of the same age (Adhir Kalyan) arrives. The cast includes My Pietz (Caroline in the City), Patrick Breen (Kevin Hill) and Lindsey Shaw as popular sister Claire.


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Non-Scripted
CW NOW
In this adult 18-34 targeted newsmagazine, the focus is on the hottest fashions, the coolest music, the A-list movies, and the best in technology.

ONLINE NATION
Scouring the endless number of websites, blogs and user-generated materials on the Internet, Online Nation will feature everything and anything that has captured the attention of the online world. Viewers, in addition, will be able to communicate with each other live on the air.

CROWNED: THE MOTHER OF ALL PAGEANTS (midseason)
In this eight episode competition judged by Carson Kressley (Queen Eye for the Straight Guy) and former Miss U.S.A. Shanna Moakler, teams of mothers and daughters are pitted against each other in a no-holds-barred beauty pageant.

FARMER WANTS A WIFE (midseason)
In this reality sounding hybrid of Green Acres and The Bachelor, a group of 10 women fed up with bad dates in the big city will compete for the hand of a charming, hard-working farmer.

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first Gilmore Girls and now Mars is canceled

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 744D29.DTL

[WebWarlock]

Regarding the Tara is back post in W&V.

Yes it is true.
Yes Chris does right by us.
Yes it is really real Tara and she is really alive.

I have a many more details, but I have been sworn not to tell till a certain date.

Tim

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so the tv season is coming to a close - VMars ends its series run tonight with a 2 hr show - bones is switching nigths next year - and a new show On the Lot is getting an airing tonight on FOX

-The Scoop on On the Lot:
Young aspiring filmmakers compete for a $1 million DreamWorks development deal in this new reality/competition from Mark Burnett and Academy Award winning director Steven Spielberg. First up: the audition process.

Now wouldn't it be grand if Amber could compete for this!

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the series-finale of The CW's Veronica Mars was a 1.9/ 3 share. it's officially over even though the 1.9/3 isn't much off the mark with the CWs other fare

other series closed with

America's Next Top Model (Wed. 8 p.m.) - Viewers: 6.42 million (#50), A18-49: 3.0/ 9 (#32t)

Smallville (Thurs. 8 p.m.) - Viewers: 4.14 million (#75), A18-49: 1.8/ 6 (#55t)
Supernatural (Thurs. 9 p.m.) - Viewers: 2.72 million (#82), A18-49: 1.2/ 3 (#75t)
Everybody Hates Chris (Mon. 8 p.m.) - Viewers: 2.34 million (#86), A18-49: 1.0/ 3 (#84t)
All of Us (Mon. 8:30 p.m.) - Viewers: 2.50 million (#85), A18-49: 1.1/ 3 (#79t) - series finale
The Game (Mon. 9-10 p.m.) - Viewers: 2.51 million (#84), A18-49: 1.1/ 3 (#79t)



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and so ends the season - how you might ask did the WB/UPN merger end up doing - well

Final Traditional Season Ratings:
Based on results for the just competed "traditional" broadcast season (Sept. 18, 2006 - May 23, 2007), leadership remained mixed between CBS and Fox. CBS extended its winning streak to five consecutive years in total viewers, with 12.46 million, and four in a row among adults 25-54, with a 4.6 rating/12 share in the demo. Fox was first among adults 18-49 (4.0/11) for the third straight year, with its largest margin of victory in the demo (+ 8 percent above second-place CBS). And Fox has now led among adults 18-34 for five consecutive years, and in teens 12-17 (1.6/ 5) for seven straight seasons. ABC won the season, meanwhile, among key women 18-34 (3.9/11 - tied with Fox), women 18-49 (4.6/12) and women 25-54 (5.2/12 - tied with CBS).

In its first season in 26 years without Monday Night Football, and excluding all sports averages, of note for ABC was year-to-year retention of 100 percent in total viewers (10.0 million), 97 percent among adults 18-34 (2.9/ 9 vs. 3.0/ 9), and 95 percent among adults 18-49 (3.5/10 vs. 3.7/10).

NBC finished fifth in the five surveyed categories, with losses ranging from 4 to 10 percent year-to-year, while fifth-place The CW was close to year-ago levels for former networks UPN and the WB. CBS and Fox were also relatively on par with the 2005-06 season, while ABC dropped by as much as 13 percent among adults 18-49 and adults 25-54.

Here are the final national results for the traditional season:

-Households:
CBS: 7.9 rating/13 share (- 4), Fox: 6.4/10 (+ 3), ABC: 6.4/10 (- 7), NBC: 5.8/ 9 (- 9), CW: 2.1/ 3 (no change from UPN and the WB)

-Total Viewers:
CBS: 12.46 million (- 1), Fox: 10.41 (+ 3), ABC: 9.93 (- 8), NBC: 8.87 (- 9), CW: 3.20 (+ 3 from UPN and the WB)-Adults 18-49:
Fox: 4.0 rating/11 share (- 2), CBS: 3.7/10 (- 3), ABC: 3.5/10 (-13), NBC: 3.1/ 8 (- 6), CW: 1.3/ 3 (no change from UPN and the WB)

-Adults 25-54:
CBS: 4.6/12 (- 4), Fox: 4.3/11 (- 2), ABC: 4.0/10 (-13), NBC: 3.6/ 9 (-10), CW: 1.2/ 2 (no change from UPN, - 8 from the WB)

-Adults 18-34:
Fox: 3.7/11 (- 5), ABC: 2.9/ 9 (- 9), CBS: 2.6/ 8 (no change), NBC: 2.5/ 8 (- 4), CW: 1.5/ 4 (+ 7 from UPN and the WB)

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

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looks like buffy the musical has become the next midnight cult movie

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/ne ... iddleright

[jixer]

Hello Kittens-

With Amber singing, playing the character who was the "heart of the show".

The thing about it being a cult movie is that BtVS is already dated, and nostalgia is shadowing over the stupid bits. It was a Nineties show, period. If it had ended at the end of high school, or the 100th episode before 9-11, it might have gone to the Big Screen at the multiplex (Though probably not as a musical) instead of art houses/desperate independent theaters. Heck, Firefly might have made it a whole season.

Oh well. Don't kill the poultry producing rare mineral ova.

Jixer

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Hello Kittens-

At the big box store getting Season One of Supernatural for my wife's B-day present I went past the Fox section of the DVDs. No BtVS Seasons 1-3, 1 each of 4 and 5. Six was nearly and seven was completely full. The Angel seasons were dusty.

Oh well.

Jixer

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hey jixer - I'm not surprised - would think that kind of sales data to be standard at this point

[jixer]

Hello Kittens-

Very true, HIP. Given the nostalgia beginning to surround the show I am glad to see the old pattern is holding.

Jixer

[WebWarlock]

What's best is going to used CD/DVD/Book stores and seeing all the Buffy DVDs there.

I guess even the fans get tired of them after a while.

In other news. Serenity fans are even accusing Whedon of double-dipping and pulling his "you know we might get a seqel if this does well..." shit.

While that is going on "Bloodrayne" gets not only a sequel, but a trilogy deal. Suck it Serenity fans!!

Tim

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interestingly - the flaggrant Angel rip off/ er - remake - Moonlight is getting its order extended on CBS


from media week
More Scripts For Moonlight:
On the heels of the Viva Laughlin cancellation, CBS has ordered four more scripts for Friday vampire drama Moonlight.

[WebWarlock]

HIP!

Any chance you will give us a Valentine's Day present tomorrow and tell us all about how bad "Dollhouse's" ratings are/will be?

Is it too early to start refering to it as "Dudhouse"?

Tim