Tara resurrection theories…

[Sheridan]

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Sheridan: I doubt having to reject the option to have Tara back (in exchange for who-ever) would give Willow closure really.

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Grimlock it would if it meant that Tara was finally gone with no hope of return, Willow would have to go on with her life. It's an apalling prospect and not 100% convincing, but we are talking about ME here...

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Willow: ...I have to tell you....

Tara: No, I understand you have to be with the
person you l-love

Willow: I am

[Dumbsaint]

What exactly were the drawings on the cave wall? I must have been too busy rolling my eyes and/or pointing and laughing at the screen to have noticed them.

"And never let it be said that I left a Tara craving unsatisfied." Willow, Wilderness Pt. 1

[WiccansIllusion]

There were drawings? Hm. TPTB are getting artistic, Whoop de fricken do.





"Where is Tara's Soul now?"



I really do believe, along with DrG that her soul is with Willow. I think it is the reasons that Willow has a better understanding of magick and how it works, simply because she's turning into the sort of witch that Tara was. Which is natural, not influenced by anything other then the forces of the earth and that around it.



*instead of double posting, edit your first post and add anything new to that one.

Tara nodded in agreement "She has magic fingers." TheWisdom of War, Chris Golden

'My heart is cleverer then I and it knows what to do.'-MC Legends of the Kiss

Edited by: Warduke at: 10/9/02 3:14:12 pm

[Kendahl897]

There was the drawing of a face with the lips sown shut, there was abody lying on the floor with a hole in the heart and I think there was one other, though I can't remember what it was. They showed them when Spike held his lighter to the wall as he was entering the cave, remember? Mind you, they are stick-like figures

[urnofosiris]

That sounds nice WiccansIllusion, but it certainly isn't what the writers of that show intented to say or have made clear. I believe their souls are bound together as one forever, but whatever is happening on screen now is one reality that does not exist for me, as far as I am concerned Buffy is still wearing a lovely coat with really long sleeves and is having an extra special nightmare, courtesy of Joss Whedon.



Hmm that could be a way, he is busy recreating and improving all the crappy cliches that exist, he always scoffed at Dallas and the dream season, maybe it is just the green eyed monster speaking. Joss Whedon can do everything better than anyone else, he can even make crappier crap. So lets have Buffy wake up from that bad dream already. She didn't really die when she jumped of that tower, she went into a coma for more than a year. Well they, it happened to Faith, it's a slayer thing. She can wake up just in time to be Willow's maid of honor.

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Tara: "uh Willow?"

Willow: "No dancing naked, huh?...It just won't be the same."

Tara: "That's all right, we can save it for later" ----From Wilderness, the newest WT comic written by Amber Benson and Christopher Golden

[WiccansIllusion]

" She can wake up just in time to be Willow's made of honor."





Hah. Don't I wish it. But of course we can't be given that sort of satisfaction, oh well. It's what Pens is for, and the board ( A big thank you to Xita and all other mods who help keep this thing running)









*sorry bout the double posting, ez board did a double whammy on me.*

Tara nodded in agreement "She has magic fingers." TheWisdom of War, Chris Golden

'My heart is cleverer then I and it knows what to do.'-MC Legends of the Kiss

[urnofosiris]

Sometimes that happens if you accidently hit reply instead of edit in your own post. If it happens again just edit the first post as you meant to and empty your second post, we can delete it then if we see it.

Ahem, continue with the resurrecting as scheduled.

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Tara: "uh Willow?"

Willow: "No dancing naked, huh?...It just won't be the same."

Tara: "That's all right, we can save it for later" ----From Wilderness, the newest WT comic written by Amber Benson and Christopher Golden

[Xtara1721]

Don't post much and I am not sure this would be considered "resurrecting"....but what about cloning. All it would take is some DNA and the book, "Cloning for dummies". Don't know a whole lot about it, but isn't it an exact "copy" of the original? Hope I didn't step out of bounds with the idea.



DeAn

[caged heart]

Like others have said already, there is a totally easy 5-year-old-could-think-of-it way to bring Tara back. Anya grants a wish, such as "I wish Warren had never been born." Or "I wish Season Sux never happened." Tada. Tara. I seriously don't think that will happen though. Its too easy. If, for some wild reason, Joss does decide to bring Tara back, he'd do it in a totally messed up, tortuous way.



Edited to add: Woohoo, I'm a Flaming O!

<3 Ava


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size="2">Yes, let's chain ourselves to the crazy vampire.

Edited by: caged heart  at: 10/9/02 9:47:04 pm

[Grimlock72]

The wish-theory has been discussed a lot months ago (either here or on usenet) and it needs to be *vegance* wish. Either Willow or Buffy could have made a vengance-wish against Warren, easily. I'm not sure if you can wish against dead people though.



Anyway, the idea was to wish Warren's rocket-booster would blow up when he escaped after the heist-attempt during _Seeing Red_.



To bad that opportunity wasn't used.



Other idea:



Suppose Willow was hit in SR and went into a coma....she could easily dream/nightmare the remaining episodes and wake up with Tara next to her bed in hospital.



Granted, that still very much feels like a reset but it's not TOO tacky. (I hope ).



If you want to be real drastic, Willow could OD on dark magic and pass out (coma) in Wrecked, depends on how many episodes you want to reset out-of-this-world.



Appointing Lisa as Executive Producer (story supervisor) would also help a lot I imagine, heh .



Grimmy

"Why w-w-would anyone leave Willow?" It was a concept Tara just could not grasp. -- I Dream of Thee by Jomarch

[WilTaraFan]

Well, for the entire summer, I've kept reading rumors that say that Amber Benson is going to have a new character on Buffy in Season 7. My theory sort of goes to a story I've read, not a Buffy one, but a Xena story.



I don't remember the name of the story, but basically, in it, Gabrielle's already dead, but a woman that looks just like her is being saved by Xena, who's immortal by the way. And by the time the story's over, the woman, her name was Sara, makes the sacrifice to let her soul passover to Heaven and Gabrielle's soul takes over her body and has a second chance at life.



So, what I'm saying is this new character that Amber is supposed to play could sacrifice herself in order to bring Tara back to Willow. Just a thought.



Kudos!!!

[Sheridan]

If DrLloyd is correct then this thread has just become irrelevant...

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Willow: ...I have to tell you....

Tara: No, I understand you have to be with the
person you l-love

Willow: I am

[twink]

wiltarafan-- i read that story. can't think of the name of it either. it worked quite well. then we'd get tara's real soul back. and it'd still be amber....sigh, i wish ME would listen to the kittens. (but no ranting here. that's for another place)

"You know what's weird?"--W
"Japanese commercials are weird."--T

[Spice Faerie]

You know, I would give anything to see Tara back again but I seriously don't think we'll ever see it. It would be like Joss admitting he was wrong and he'd never admit to that. I do want to see her again, though. Maybe dreams, flashbacks or even better...an alternate dimension Tara. That could be a really interesting story line. Somehow Tara from an alternate dimention comes to be in our Sunnydale and Willow meets her and they discover one another all over again or something...kinda creepy but it could work. Who knows. I'm always hopeful.



Spice

"No candles? Well, I brought one. It's extra flamey..."

[Grimlock72]

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Sheridan

If DrLloyd is correct then this thread has just become irrelevant...

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Which message are you referring to ??



Grimmy

"Why w-w-would anyone leave Willow?" It was a concept Tara just could not grasp. -- I Dream of Thee by Jomarch

[themagicpixie]

Grimlock (like in FFIX?):



Check out the Spoiler Thread, p. 31, it's at the top of the page.

[Grimlock72]

found it, thanks... and it's Grimlock as in Transformers .

(you know 'robots in disguise', hehe



Never played Final Fantasy, don't even own a PlayStation.



Grimmy

"Why w-w-would anyone leave Willow?" It was a concept Tara just could not grasp. -- I Dream of Thee by Jomarch

[feena191]

Sorry it's OT, when I hit 30 I decided to have a last youthful fling & it was either a tattoo or a Playstation - the Playstation was less painful...although I am tempted towards the tattoo now I'm approaching mid-thirties.... I've just read this back - how sad my life is that only a choice of these 2 is classed as my 'last youthful fling'



Back to On-T - I believe DrLloyd's source, & in a horrible way I think I'm glad Both to finally know the truth (but obviously never from ME's collective mouthes), but I don't want Amber, as any version of NotTara, back in this show. And even if RealTara did come back, it would never take away the pain of last Season.



Having NotWillow is heartache enough.



Feena

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"Run, flee, maybe skedaddle. We're not here to engage, this is strictly recon......what?"

"You said recon, you're like cool monster fighter."

Edited by: feena191  at: 10/11/02 4:18:12 am

[Spice Faerie]

Feena, I agree with you completely. Last season was like a knife in the heart. No matter what happens, even if Tara comes back it still won't heal the wound...



Spice

"No candles? Well, I brought one. It's extra flamey..."

[DRUSILLA LOVER]

im still pining away for the reverse back in time to back to where buffy jumps in the portal to save the world, just this time they dont bring her back. and tara is back with willow and everything is all good again.

[Grimlock72]

I actually preferred the reset with Dawn jumping of that tower, never liked Dawn. That would make season5 a bit pointless though, hmm.... Think it's a bit too late for that now, would be a HUGE reset and lots of fans would be upset with it. It's not nice to say; sorry we messed up, forget the last 25 episodes please .



Besides, I can't see Joss doing that. I would be sooooo pleased to him being forced to do it though. Would make my day, I hate it when writers forget fans once they achieved a certain status/position.



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

[themagicpixie]

Although I want Tara back, now I think it would only be done if the show was going down in flames and desperate for ratings. After ME have been so awful, and have deliberated tortured us and continue to do so, I am not interested in the future of the shows.



I believe any resurrection of Tara would be done in a horrible, unpleasant way to make us suffer more (look at how they brought Jenny Calendar back). So I would rather not see it happen. I would rather see Buffy axed, and I would like people to look back and see the butchering of Tara as one of the key points in the show's rapid decline.

[Kendahl897]

Although I want Tara back, now I think it would only be done if the show was going down in flames and desperate for ratings.



Isn't that the situation they are in now? Well, give them a few more episodes, they're on their way..

[Garner]

I don't think it is likely that Tara will return, though perhaps if UPN gets desparate enough and understands that that is what the fans want there might be a greater chance of it. I also agree there are thousands of ways she could come back now, but really, it should have been done at the end of last season. To that end I have a way Joss could have gotten all he wanted and still had Tara come back. This is mildly off topic, but I don't want to write this out as a story so here is how Joss could have had his cake and ate it too, as it were:



After Warren killed his gf, he has Adam and Jonathan come up with a way to bring her back, they create a little techno magic device to ressurect her, but the device depends on the person using it giving the dead person some of their life force. Of course Warren won't give up enough for the gf to be back for more than a moment and the device is discarded, the rest of the ep is unchanged.



Later, Buffy finds the device in the Nerds house (or even just the plans, but I like her taking the device instead) as well as the files that describe what it is. She doesn't figure out what it does.



Again the season stays the same but, while Buffy and Xander are going through the nerds stuff Xander happens upon the device and thinks little of it at the time. Later Xander realizes during Two to Go or Graves that there is no way Willow is going to come back or relent from her path of destruction, he remembers the nerds' device. He goes to the morgue and uses it to resurrect Tara, giving all of his life force to bring her back. As he lies dieing he tells Tara what happened with Willow and that only she can stop her, and than dies.



Tara then goes and stops Willow (duh!) Afterwards she tells everyone of Xander's sacrifice and what he did. The group goes back to Xander and uses the device together, as a group with each of them all giving a bit of their essence to Xander and bringing him back as well.



Thus: Joss still gets his money shot. Willow still goes DMW. She threatens to destroy the word. Xander makes the ultimate sacrifice to save his friend and the world, but not with a stupid yellow crayon speech. Xander still saves the world. Yet, Tara is also responsible and ends up alive. And finally the group as a whole reconnects/bonds in saving Xander.



I suppose this isn't exactly a ressurrection theory, but it is how I think Tara could/should have come back while Joss still gets to maintain his agenda.



Garner

[circular reference]

OK, so I had this dream last night... random as it was, it had both Tara & Willow in it... I think I was in the room... or watching it... or something. Anyway, I don't usually have TV episode dreams, so it's kinda funny from that perspective. But what wasn't funny was what happened in the dream... you see, I have, in the back of my mind, been thinking a lot about how Tara might rejoin the Scoobs... and in this dream, at the end, she revealed to Willow that she was her Guardian -- a magical undead who protect and guide witches & their magic. Kinda corney, but in the dream, it didn't seem that way. She was kind of like her Charmed white lighter or something... and it was completely still and solemn in the dream... and I remember that I cried as I was watching this in the dream... and thinking that I didn't expect THAT resurrection... and how amazing, I thought... I was in tears and speechless... as Willow was crying, reaching out for Tara, who had smiled and faded... to have your true love be your Guardian forever...



Anyway, I guess that's my theory then, since my unconscious dreamed it. How probable or inprobable do you think? I'm thinking inprobable simply because no creature like a "guardian" has ever been talked about on Buffy before. Who knows, I suppose.

--CR
"Hold the fire, I'm coming in."

Edited by: circular reference  at: 10/17/02 1:20:06 pm

[twink]

garner--interesting theory. power in numbers there, and we get to remove the yellow crayon thing.



circular reference--guardian tara! a noble job for her. then they could have her show up and they can't kill her again!

"You know what's weird?"--W
"Japanese commercials are weird."--T

[chelehel74]

If contract re-negotations (or whatever the deal was with Cordy's contract on Angel) can bring back Cordy then why the heck couldn't Anya - if say someone out and out asked her - bring back Tara.



I thought there might have been something in Anya's line in the spell scene two weeks ago when she said



"I wish things were better for you Willow."



I do think that if the rumors of Emma leaving after this season are true what a great way to send the character out then to have her bring back Tara as a last wish. Especcially considering Willow and Anya's horrible relationship in years past. Now they understand each other better than anyone else and it would be the best way to see things come full circle.

[Grimlock72]

Yes, Emma herself has said season7 will be her last.



As for Anya sacraficing herself for Tara, it would fit in her charachter since she liked Tara a lot. I don't know if Tara would like the idea that someone died to allow her to live. She would feel horrible guilty..



This could either happen mid-season or end-season since it's rumorred (sp?) that Emma wants out earlier, don't know the exact reason.



Both scenarios would require massive re-writes though, writers would have to write a *happy* Willow...they're kinda out of practice on that. Heh, they could write W/T out of BtvS like they did when a certain vampire was returned after he died...



(well they *could* if Aly didn't have a season8 contract already)



Ain't this stupid, the politics surrounding the show are more interesting then the story-lines the put on it. That can't right.



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

[Spice Faerie]

Silly politics always seem to get in the way, don't they? Grr Arrg



Spice

"No candles? Well, I brought one. It's extra flamey..."

[Kandicek]

Look, I know it sounds stupid, but i never under-phucking-stood why in the world the ONE relationship that actually freaking was working, and that fans of the show actually phucking WANTED to keep going was killed off.

My girlfriend several times suggested that someone must have sh*t in Joss's head. By that thought, it got so polluted that ever since that insanity we've been getting this cr@ppy series of Tara-less BTVS and totally stupid episodes.

pardon me while i laugh at joss's expense. Ok.. now back to the non-digression.

Even I, with my crappy little B.A. in English could give you a bucket load of lame, wierd,twisted, and alternate endings that would allow sooooooooooooooo much continuity with the series characters, keep things rolling, and damn well provide a way for Tara to have never been killed in the damn first place, but to have resurrected her even if she ended up croaking!!!!

But I dont know how else to put this:

I have no real deep faith that they will let Tara come back. And certainly, while I think Amber will do great in ANY character they give her, and probably save the show from stupidity, I have to admit that I was scared when they showed them having the wonderful deep smoochies, cause I was scared at what that meant, and if you think I was freaking cause of that, the sex scenes made me like a cat in a room full of rockers.. I mean i loved the interactions and the relationship biz, and hell even Dawnie was cute in her excitement for Will and Tara getting back together. Heck i was right there with her.. go willow, go Tara.. get your groove on-- several times!!!

But you know, the only thing I can imagine, other than my girlfriend is right and someone has left a huge phucking turd sitting in the brainbowl of Joss, is that we are not gonna get satisfaction on this, not really.

And believe me, i could really excuse just about ANY way they bring Tara back. I could even handle them just acting like she never left, and magically have her reappear, and me feeling like i missed some damn chapter and passed out without knowing it. But that said, given the words of warning on the spoilers for this last episode... which i havent seen yet, i remember in NMR when Willow made some reference to istanbul and her adn OZ. and believe me, I will be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ticked and ready to beam red lazers from my eyes angry if they killed tara off just to reunite Willow with Oz. Especially if they do it because they had to appease the narrow-few minds that berated them for making willow gay. At that point I think people will drop the show enmasse.



Anyhow, I like Amber. I want to see her again. I'd rather it be as Tara on the show, but well.. I would be glad to see her as part fo the scoobies even if it was another character. Though i cant see them making it a character that gets to smooch aly all the time. At that point, they might as well make a resurrection scene, and bring Tara back.