Tara resurrection theories…

[EffieBlue]

I have a theory but it's complicated, so hang in there while I explain the whole thing.



Well...it starts off...



a writer picks up a pen, ok not realistic I know, so..ok a writer taps away on a keyboard.



He/she writes....Tara comes back from the dead. Alive, not a ghost, not an apparition but as Tara.



How?? because it's vital for Willows story arc. therefore it happens, and so it shall be done.



why?? because it's Buffy and anything is possible, no explanation is really necessary.



Is there a precedent for this?? yes..Angel comes back and the character Dawn is created just because we say we can so there!! so we laughed and did it.



Isn't it cheapening death?.. No..if we wanted to do that, we would have a slayer who killed people stating she was the Law.. and then after pointing out this was bad we would then have our "good " slayer in a later episode say exactly the same thing , but this time it would be ok.



We would Never do that.



So...Tara comes back just cos the writers on Buffy say it can happen??



Yes..Problem??



No.



Now... what the hell is so difficult about that??



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And If heaven should call, I'm coming too, cos just like you said, without you in my life, I'm better off dead.....No I'm never coming down, never coming down....The Verve

[AmbersSecretAdmirer]

Dunno if this is on the board already but here goes.



Amy decides to get even with Willow for "dumping" her for her friends and Tara. She has found a way to free her mother and together they plague Willow with horrific visions and use an illusion spell to make Willow believe that Tara is taunting her, angry at her for her evil magic use and claiming to be tortured in hell in her place.



Willow, overcome with grief and guilt, decides to end her life by jumping off the very cliff where she tried to end the world. Amy and her mother continue to taunt her as Buffy and Xander try to talk her out of her suicidal state.



In a flash Amy and her mother are revealed, confused that their spell has been broken. They look behind them to see Tara standing there.



She has broken through heaven to be with Willow at her time of greatest need. She punishes Amy and Catherine for abusing magic, torturing Willow and using her image to do it by returning Catherine to her trophy and Amy back into rat form, stating that neither has earned the right to the humanity that they have been given.



She takes Willow home, stating that she will remain, to complete Willow's training and prepare her for the final battle with the Great Evil.



When the evil is defeated, all the Scoobies are granted a reward for their service. Willow and Tara are reunited as mortal lovers once more.



I know, a lot of angst. But I figure that in order to be released from heaven something would have to snap in Tara and I think her image being used to torture and drive Willow to her death would anger her that no dimension would keep her from aiding her soulmate.

[Spice Faerie]

Dude, that would be such a cool way to bring her back and it's an involved story line so it could even span several episodes before Tara actually comes back to save Willow. That would totally rock. Now why can't ME think of anything that good?!



Spice

"No candles? Well, I brought one. It's extra flamey..."

Edited by: Spice Faerie  at: 10/28/02 7:16:41 am

[tkheaven]

As great as that may sound (and let me tell I would love to see something like that happen) ME's too high on their shit they pull outta their asses to acomplish something as simple as this...it has a storyline, and you know what...it's not a recycled idea...but that's too much for ME... blah

Tk's new and improved "GrrArgg"...Tk's Heaven

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"I've become really protective of her. I want to make sure if Tara comes back, it's for good reason." -Amber Benson

[twink]

after the final news that amber will not be returning to the show this season...i have to quote bones from star trek "she's dead jim." i still want her back!!!! (throwing a small tantrum here, pardon the arm flinging) so please continue w/ the resurrection ideas....

"You know what's weird?"-- Willow
"Japanese commercials are weird."--Tara

[xita]

too bad she's dead, and staying dead because Joss wants her dead.



Resurrection theories a-plenty over at pens where character development drives the story, not erm.. ego.

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Buffy?

Let's change it, the Discovery channel has koala bears.

[famer]

Haven't read all the thread so if this has already been posted...



My new resurrection theory/fantasy:



W/T fans inundate Fox/UPN

Joss & ME under intense pressure

Joss attempts to get Amber on the show

Amber refuses unless it's respectful of W/T relationship

Joss caves under the gun from Fox

Amber shoots W/T reunion ep(s)

W/T shippers all happy



Somewhere in there Tara gets resurrected and I don't give a damn how.

Edited by: famer at: 11/5/02 9:57:11 pm

[Robin]

There are surely many ways of bringing Tara back but the main reason speaking against a resurrection is the fact that it would look like ME was kinda forced to bring her back without wanting this on their own.

Edited by: Robin at: 11/6/02 2:12:28 pm

[drlloyd11]

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There are surely many ways of bringing tara back but the main reason speaking against a resurrection is the fact that it would look like ME was kinda forced to bring her back without wanting this on their own.

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They have done this all the $#@@# time, unless you noticed Riley is gone, the initive is over , and Willow is still gay. Its not forced, its listening to the audience and not lecturing. Something they need to do alot more of

[Dumbsaint]

Or, yanno, the fact that Joss is a cruel asshole who never intended to bring Tara back, never inteded for W/T to live happily ever after, and has made it only too clear that he's not the least bit interested in what the fans want. And then there's also the whole "Wow. The show is hideously bad now," thing, too.



Free NotWillow.

"And never let it be said that I left a Tara craving unsatisfied." Willow, Wilderness Pt. 1

[Garner]

a friend of mine had the theory that Joss couldn't handle the success he had earlier with the show and so decided to deliberately sabotage his creation in order to return to the starving artiste with no success level he can handle. Therefore, there is no way that Joss is going to ever bring Tara back.



Actually I still think Josswad and ME all suffered from a skill stealing spell perpetrated by the Charmed writers. Either way I am positive that if Tara were to be ressurrected, in any manner, that Amber would be back in a flash. I just don't think Josswad is going to ever succomb to fan opinion. He had his vision, it played out and he doesn't care what we think. There have been so many good ways Tara could have come back listed here or in Pens and I think even the horrible ME writers could have come up with something cliched and old. But right now they aren't allowed to and I doubt they ever will be.



Garner

[Munchkin]

Garner thus spake:

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a friend of mine had the theory that Joss couldn't handle the succes he had earlier with the show and so decided to deliberately sabotage his creation in order to return to the starving artiste with no success level he can handle.

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I came up with the exact same thing on the FF thread a little while ago. A little too wordy to be accessible (I tend to do that, sometimes), but basically it goes like this:



If the Networks and audiences reject his "vision", then Whedon can point - with Righteous Indignation - at a "System" that doesn't work. But if he succeeds, then what does he have? What can he possibly rage against? So naturally, Whedon will do anything to find a "complication".



And being the Rich White Boy that he is, he doesn't have to suffer the consequences of the REAL starving artistes who have to compromise their principles just to earn a living every day, because it's all just a game to him. The problem is that it's his shows' dedicated cast and crew of professionals who end up losing this "game", with their jobs put on the line by the selfish whims of Whedon's "vision". And that's what sucks the most about him.



But that's just how I see it.

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Dave C.

Edited by: Munchkin at: 11/7/02 12:29:06 pm

[Avern1]

I have not theory about Taras death, because I think that she is angel now. It is based on last episode. I see end of season where Willow die as hero, new girlfriend stay with she and mourn, but somebody tell her that its not end, she is at happy place with Tara. When Willow open eyes she looks to light and its Tara (I think light cos Amber not return). Willow cry and say - ,,Its you BABY ? You miss me very." And asfter she gos to light for happy live with her soulmate, live love her Tara ,Baby, McLay. FOREVER

[DRUSILLA LOVER]

i see willow and tara being together in heaven, i belive willow will die by seasons end. but im not sure, i kinda hope she does, that way she can be with tara.

[BytrSuite]

Willow is with Tara over on Pens. They are alive and happy together.



Only NotWillow is left on this show.

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"Oh, good, my dog found the chainsaw."

[Avern1]

OK Bytr. But we must realistic. I have two sees to this - two alternate worlds - one Tara alive, never die, second you know.

But I accepted Taras death.

[xita]

Realistic? Tara's fictional, a creation abandoned by her creators, we can do with her as we wish, cause she is fictional. Pens is as real as the show, just because we don't have copyright doesn't make it any less real, know what I mean?

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Buffy?

Let's change it, the Discovery channel has koala bears.

[DRUSILLA LOVER]

i agree, and plus its more fun to watch (or to read in our case).

[Avern1]

You dont understant Xita, I was thing ,realistic, in sense that creators kill Tara and we not changed. I know that Tara is fictional . I am not stupid. (I thinking in well). But when I wrote I sometimes wrote wrong things in sense that I wrote what I Think in Czech.



P.S. When I somebody jeer? I am sorry.

[Munchkin]

If I may paraphase a quote from a classic TV/Movie series that JW/ME couldn't possibly grasp the greatness of in a billion years, this is what I have to add to this topic:



Tara's not really dead; as long as we remember her.

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Dave C.

[darkmagicwillow]

As Buffy's resurrection required a sacrifice, Tara's would too. We need to convince ME to sacrifice Joss in favor of someone who wants to write a good season of Buffy...

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

[Patches]

Something’s been bugging me since the end of Season 6 (besides the end of season six). Like everyone, I was wracking my brain trying to figure out how they were going to bring Tara back and not make Willow a crazed murdering monster. I had a theory, but in the intervening months, things have slipped away somewhat. All I can remember is there’s an episode where some evil rotten thing happened and Anya changed time and prevented the big bad from happening. Now, I can’t remember what episode, from which season. Anya was so keen to help Willow at the end of season 6, and I thought – babe, why don’t you just change time, you've done it before. I don’t think I’m confusing this with The Wish in Season 3 – I’m certain it was something Anya did (a spell maybe) well after this.



I know that Tara’s not coming back, so while this whole line of reasoning is moot, does anyone remember an episode where something like this happened – Anya restores the time line so that nothing happens – or have I just lost my marbles?

[famer]

No idea about the timeline unless you want to count the frat thing.



Before I throw out my latest thought, I want to say that:

* I know that Tara's really dead; and

* I know that Amber's not coming back.



Despite this, Joss could work in a Tara "resurrection" by saying Tara never really died in the fully human sense. Some kind of spell-sacrifice would be needed to bring her back to full human status.



This would explain why "The 1st" couldn't take Tara's shape.

[jixer]

Hello Kittens-



How to get Tara back and give BtVS a chance to stay above a 1.5 in the ratings. No vision here, sorry.



Since I have no idea what the heck is going on in the show anymore, here's my scenario using BUNNY for the Big Bad whatever.



JFK starts getting very weird flashes of things that happened, but from a more ominious view. The last episode I watched was 7-3 so from that one we see Dawn helpless and frozen in place. A demon stalks up to the empty house only to be torn to pieces by the wind. Other weakly written holes, and I'm sure there are lots, are explained away in this fashion as well.



K dreams about W and the BUNNY suddenly appears and tells her she's doing well.



K wakes up, runs for the Hellmouth. She discovers she isn't really K, but evil personified made by the BUNNY to lure Willow into the darkness forever. K refuses, cites her free will. BUNNY almost kills her, the real K is revealed as the BUNNY's prisoner and as good as dead. Both Ks refuse to help him hurt Willow. BUNNY pulls back his hand and a slender arm comes out, stops him and says they've won. BUNNY screams, Tara steps up to the dying Ks. She kisses Evil K and says heal in Latin. Evil K fades into a cloudly, light place. A female voice says, we agree. No-Longer-Evil K gets a chance at a real life of her own and disappears with a bell like sound. Tara tells the dying real K "Her name is Samantha" and touches a Lethe's bramble to K's bloody cheek.



K wakes up, looks about the high tech hospital room she's in and can't remember anything except the sleeping redhead (I'm thinking Jewel Staite from FF- recycle, it's the ME way!). The woman wakes up, looks happy, says you're awake and kisses K. Says something about her parents being on the Mars shuttle but she'll call them. K tells her she can't remember. Redhead pulls away shyly. Says "Not even about us?". K reaches for her and says "Samantha?" Huge smile. It's all she can remember, but K says it's enough as she holds Samantha's hand tightly.



Fade to BUNNY, treating a burn on it's arm from Tara's touch. "You killed me," she tells him from off camera. "You're stuck with me."



He screams she can't save them all. She couldn't save the SITs killed in the first three horrid episodes. Turns out Tara is desperately trying, not to live, but to save the Scoobies, the SITs and other innocents. She's WAY more powerful than she thought she could be but doesn't see it, just sees all the pain she could not stop. BUNNY leaps back from her and cowers. She finally sees she can kill BUNNY. It screeches something in Latin and there is a hellacious BANG in the Summers house. Tara, alive and now just a witch and not proto-goddess groans. Willow faints. Dawn cries.



Next episode Tara reveals she was trying to shield the Scoobies, including their memories so BUNNY couldn't use her to hurt them. Much angst about how she "failed". Buffy, in a reverse of Restless, guides Tara to accept she fought as well as she could. W is a mess, but T tells her she saved K, literally vanquished evil with love and hope. They both have a vision of K and Sam holding hands. We see W/T doing the same in the closing shot.



From that point on Tara is Guide and the element Wind/Air in Earth Wind Fire Water Wood and Metal from the various elemental traditions of East and West. Dawn is Power, an element desired, but not understood. W and T unite. MKF is found and saved from BUNNY.



In the end the scoobies unite, destroy BUNNY and close the Hellmouth. Buffy(metal) becomes one with a mystic sword and slays the source of BUNNY's power. She is trapped on the far side of the Hellmouth, starts teaching slayers and their friends how to kill the new peril of vampires in this diminsion. No more single slayer crap.



There we have it. Love, sacrifice and hope with much Willow/Tara goodness sprinkled on top.



Okay, maybe I do have a vision after all.



Thanks,



Jixer

[DRUSILLA LOVER]

that was totally awesome, jixer.

[mocha fiend 22]

i have to agree that was awesome and sounds better then the crap joss is trying to feed us

The word "gulp" comes to mind.

[vix84]

Oh, jixer, it's perfect!

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Willow laughs, kissing her. Soft and sensual. Deep love territory.
Seeing Red, Shooting Script.

[Warduke]

If she's waiting to be sent back, then she'll be waiting an eternity.



Why would Joss bring her back? That would actually be a good storyline, so it'll never happen.

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[sam7777]

Maybe but I doubt it. What I want resurrected was the show that I once enojyed before we got this dreck (season sux and severed). Ain't gonna happen.

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I see dead lesbian cliches

[AmbersSecretAdmirer]

I like that idea, although some might construe it as an almighty cop-out, if it brings Willow and Tara together then I'm all for it.



I also go along with the notion of Tara being a higher being now, as Cordy was. That would certainly be in keeping with her character and a perfectly logical and dramatic way to bring her back into the fold, and more importantly, Willow's arms.



TO HELL WITH JFK!! I NEED MY WILLOW AND TARA!!