The one stop spot to shop for all your activist needs!

[themagicpixie]

WebWarlock, you are a God. I don't know how much notice these guys will take if I send them postcards with an English postmark on, but what the hey...



Edited to add: they are such great cards! I love the pictures. Damn it was so good to see her on the credits. Damn them for doing this in Seeing Red!

Edited by: themagicpixie at: 1/16/03 6:40:35 am

[sam7777]

Thanks Tim! As the ratings tank, it's always a good idea to let them know why. Marti said they are still paying for that one (DoT). Let's show them the payment is still due.

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[WebWarlock]

Thanks,



But the best way to thank me is to make sure that the next few episodes of Buffy are the lowest rated ones ever. Nothing would make me happier in this sorry affair.



So find those last few people watching Buffy that are Nielsen families and get them to stop. Ask around, say it is for a stats project or anything.



I got another Nielsen person last night! Ok, he does the diaries so that will only effect the nationals and not the overnights.



Here is a new banner I am putting on my site now.







What do you think? You have my permission to take this and put it anywhere you want.



Warlock

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The Other Side,
home of Liber Mysterium: The Netbook of Witches and Warlocks

"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." - Frank Zappa

[jixer]

Hello Kittens



For the next round of postcards I have several questions:



Who is the poor sod stuck with selling the BtVS syndication and what is their address?



What is the address for CBS's Moonves?



Is Dawn Ostroff still in at UPN?



What is the address for ME's Christopher Buchanan? There are two ME addresses in this string.



Is it worth the time to send Ms. Noxon a post card?



Thank you all for your time and patience,



Jixer

[The Rose24]

Yes, I hope the ratings for 13 and 14 are the worst ever because these are supposed to be the big W/ ones. I am not a Nielson household, so I will probably see if I want to keep watching or change the channel to Gilmore Girls. I will probably be watching Gilmore Girls. *Sigh* I am hoping for some good news that shows W/ won't last long.

Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.


Tara: Willow, I got so lost.

Willow: I found you. I will always find you.

Edited by: The Rose24  at: 1/18/03 11:47:20 pm

[helpful information perha]

Fans of Willow and Tara are running an Ad at television without pity (imo its a way of giving props to Amber Benson)



When you click on the Ad there is an interesting website for Tara's return with an illuminating ratings graph



TWoP Forums



www.televisionwithoutpity....cgi?cn=19



pull down menu's for emailing the suits here as well as addys to send ww's post cards too





WW - just tried the Ad click on and www.anemptyspace.org/

doesn't seem to be working

Edited by: helpful information perhaps at: 1/22/03 8:54:36 am

[themagicpixie]

It's working now, for me anyway. It redirects to another site rather than http://www.emptyspace.org, but the link does work.

[Scout]

Here's Leslie Moonves' mailing addy and the link for the CBS.com feedback form:



Leslie Moonves

President and CEO, CBS Television

CBS Television City

7800 Beverly Blvd.

Los Angeles, CA 90036





CBS Feedback

[helpful information perha]

thanks scout



and while the ad seems to have run its course - WW's anemptyspace website is working - so an excellent place to email all concerned from!

[jixer]

Hello Kittens-



Gosh, art and research both. Thank you Scout!



Postcards away!



Jixer

[tyche]

I've also posted this in the 'vote for the girls' thread on the main board, but I thought this might be a good place for it too. If you're voting by email, maybe it would be an idea to copy your email to the UPN addresses.



SFX magazine are collecting votes again for their annual reader awards. Amber and Aly both did well last year, and it would send a hell of a message if Amber did really well in the 'best TV actress' category, and if Tara's death got voted the worst thing to happen in SF/Fantasy in 2002.

The categories are as listed below. You don't have to vote in every category, and you can vote by email, so long as you give your full name. The email address to send your votes to is

sfx@futurenet.co.uk

(Please include your full name with all email votes - please also note that they have specifically requested people not to block vote this year.)

You can also vote by post on the voting form which can be found in the current issue of SFX.

Oh, and they mentioned that you can vote for 'Firefly' in the TV category.

(btw, is Amber's film 'Taboo' a horror film? Because if so, we could also vote for her in the film actress category. And we can vote for the W/T comics too.)



Films

Best SF or fantasy film



Best SF or fantasy film actress



Best SF or fantasy film actor



Best SF or fantasy film director



Best SF or fantasy film music



Worst SF or fantasy film



TV

Best SF or fantasy TV show



Best episode of an SF or fantasy TV show



Best actress in an SF or fantasy TV show



Best actor in an SF or fantasy TV show



Most improved SF or fantasy TV show



Best new SF or fantasy TV show



Worst SF or fantasy TV show



Books

Best SF or fantasy novel (film/TV tie-ins are NOT eligible in this category)



Best SF or fantasy TV or film tie-in novel



Best SF or fantasy-related non-fiction book



Best SF or fantasy author



Others

Best SF or fantasy comic book



Best SF or fantasy computer/console game



Best SF or fantasy fanzine



Sexiest woman in SF and fantasy



Sexiest man in SF and fantasy



Funniest person in SF and fantasy



Worst dressed person in SF and fantasy



Worst thing to happen in SF and fantasy in 2002



Best thing to happen in SF and fantasy in 2002



The 'Minority Report' award for the person who should be stopped from committing future crimes



Who would you use as the genetic blueprint for your clone army?







That's it. Happy voting, Kittens!

Edited by: tyche at: 1/31/03 9:08:53 am

[fontaine13]

OK I should preface this by saying that on most days I'll tell you that sending e-mails or postcards to ME/Fox or whoever is pretty much a complete waste of time as this point. The damage is done and if you let the ratings speak for themselves Buffy it pretty much done. However after having read some of the latest spoilers I got aggro enough to send some e-mails from Tim's site. While most of them either bounced back or I rec'd notice that at least one of them was deleted apparently without being read, I did get one or two replies from Fox affilates all saying the same things. In any case I thought I would share one reply with you all :-

Quote:

---

In response to your request we are an independently owned affiliate of the FOX network, thus the only Buffy: The Vampire Slayer we currently air is the syndicated version. Meaning, if you notice, that all the episodes that we are showing are repeats aired in the order specified by 20th Television. We have neither control nor input into the show’s production or distribution beyond saying yea or nay as to airing the show.

Now having said that, and having enjoyed the series myself, may I suggest that you contact the UPN network (the current supplier of first-run Buffy), 20th Television (the syndicator for Buffy), WCTI-TV 12 (the current UPN affiation holder in New Bern), and the producers of the show. In all honesty, you’ll have a better shot at making something work with any of the above than with the local FOX affiliate. I’m sure that all of the above have contact points on the internet. And I wish you the best of luck with your efforts.

Linda Murphy

Prog. Dir.

WFXI/WYDO

---

"You won't be lost, hurt,
tired and lonely, something beautiful will come your way" - Robbie Williams
(Something Beautiful - Escapology 2002)

Edited by: fontaine13 at: 1/31/03 3:41:47 pm

[helpful information perha]

font.

I used the www.anemptyspace.org

pull down menu's



I changed the letter up a bit from the one thats on the pulldown





I got a variety of responses a couple of which noted they had gotten many complaints about buffy

(not just about tara's death either)





and FYI - UPN has to sign up its affiliate stations/station groups

when those affiliates are getting neg feedback on what UPN is giving them to air they bark up the ladder



examples of responses include:



Dear ---



I am sorry that you have had to change the channel from a program you once enjoyed watching. Unfortunately, we are only an affiliate of UPN and do not have any control over the content of their programs. UPN has not branded themselves as a "family-oriented network". The programming we carry on UPN contains shows such as WWE Smackdown, Enterprise, Jerry Springer, Ricki Lake, and Blind Date. A lot of these programs are not intended for children.



I understand completely why you would not want your children to see such violent content, as you mentioned is shown in "Buffy". I would never want any of our viewers to turn from our channel, however, in this case it is probably best. Hopefully you will be able to find another program that is suitable for "family viewing". I appreciate your comments and concerns, and hope that you can find a new "family-friendly" show to watch. Thank you for writing.



Lara Colestock

Program Coordinator

WLYH-TV UPN 15

www.wlyh.com



_____



Thanks for your e-mail. Your comments have been forwarded to Viacom.



Jeremy Monty

Special Projects Coordinator

WXSP/WZPX



---



I have received several e-mails, just like yours, which have requested that Tara (Amber Benson) return to the cast of BUFFY. Because WCTX is an affiliate of UPN, we have little say over what programming UPN selects. However, you can send your request to



onlinepolicy@upn.com



Thank you very much for taking the time to e-mail us.



Sincerely,

Deanna Banas

Program Manager

[WebWarlock]

More addresses,



thanks to some very misguided FireFly fans. Hey. Let them work for us.



GARY NEWMAN

CO-PRESIDENT

TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX TELEVISION

10201 WEST PICO BLVD

BUILDING 88 ROOM 29

LOS ANGELES CA 90035



DANA WALDEN

TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX TELEVISION

10201 WEST PICO BLVD

BUILDING 88 ROOM 29

LOS ANGELES CA 90035



Warlock

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The Other Side,
home of Liber Mysterium: The Netbook of Witches and Warlocks

"Stop whimpering... it's unattractive." - Bloodrayne

[stereo33]

Thanks WebWarlock

Always like to see new addresses

[helpful information perha]

NEW AD UP AT TWOP



www.televisionwithoutpity....cgi?cn=19



this one is knocking the JFK kiss ratings ploy



and noting that ME can't "recast the magic"



W/T fans aren't coming back for JFK



the click on ad takes you to a website with a very illuminating ratings graph

[jixer]

Hello Kittens-



Well, the big kids are fighting over the toy network now. Fox and Viacom are squabbling over the failing UPN. I think it's time to repeat our message to both sides, and let ME do the explaining.



Is there an updated E-Mail list and addresses? I feel a sudden surge in postcards in the wind.



Thank you all for the time and effort put into this thread.



Jixer

[helpful information perha]

WW has all the latest addys for UPN and FOX in the email pulldowns on the



www.anemptyspace.org



site



just click on the email pull downs for upn and fox - change up the letter as you please and click send

[BBOvenGuy]

Ummm... with Buffy now officially cancelled and Alyson Hannigan all but confirmed as not being involved with a spinoff, what is there left to advocate? Haven't we pretty much gotten what we were after?



Yes, there's still Angel hanging in the balance, but going after it deliberately seems more spiteful than anything else. I'd rather just let it take its chances on its own.

"Sure it's simple, writing for kids. Just as simple as bringing them up." - Ursula K. LeGuin

[helpful information perha]

yes buffy is canceled but whedon is still talking spin off - and drlloyds sources may be correct - but I haven't seen a official confirmation that hannigan has been asked let alone turned down a spin off - her words were to the effect that it would depend on what it was and how much whedon was involved correct - the FOX lawsuit against UPN could be a bargaining ploy to help push UPN into picking up FOX (FOX/ME) product for UPN's development slate - which could include keeping a slot for a buffy spin off (esp mid season) - so I don't see a down side to continued postings to UPN/FOX/ME



besides - WW's email pull downs are for UPN and FOX -- if people were trying to effect angels demise they would have to be writing the WB and its affiliates - not UPN and its station grps

[BBOvenGuy]

Okay, fair enough. I was just asking.

"Sure it's simple, writing for kids. Just as simple as bringing them up." - Ursula K. LeGuin

[sam7777]

Tim, truly you are the tip of our spear to strike back at the bad folks at ME. Thnaks for all your hard work in getting contact information and helping us to tell the world that the emperor has no clothes.

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[WebWarlock]

Hey, just trying to do what I can.



Use of the email buttons are up. I think right now would be a great time to send another round. Remind them that this was Buffy's worst Feb sweeps ever. Remind them why you are not watching AND that you wont be watching a spin off.



I am not trying to show the world the emperor has no clothes (Bob already did a good job of that) I am trying to bring down an empire.



Warlock

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Web Warlock

The Other Side,
home of Liber Mysterium: The Netbook of Witches and Warlocks

"It was so dumb." - Amber Benson on the death of Tara.

[stereo33]

WW, thanks for the addresses - another round sent! There's only one spin-off show I'd like to see, and whilst I'm sure I've got more chance of winning the lottery 2 weeks running - I still feel compelled to tell anyone who'll listen what they did to my favourite show (or used to be anyhow). I know I'll have to let it go one day ......................................but not just yet

[sam7777]

You can send comments to the WB affiliate in LA:

ktla.trb.com/entertainmen....htmlstory



I asked them to cancel Angel because I want to see all ME shows fail. To contact The WB with comments about their programming, e-mail faces@talk.thewb.com.

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[themagicpixie]

Quote:

---

I asked them to cancel Angel because I want to see all ME shows fail.

---

Fair enough and to the point! I will email them even though I am in the UK and tell them I don't like Mr Whedon & co's brand of "television".

[sam7777]

Postcards asking the WB to cancel Angel can be sent to:

Mr. Jordan Levin

The WB Television Network

4000 Warner Blvd.

Building 34R

Burbank, CA 91522

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[jixer]

Hello Kittens-



I'm sending the message below to Fox using WW's Fox link on the web page mentioned earlier in this forum.





Subject Heading: Still Life



Dear Sir/Madame,



I am a fan of the science fiction/fantasy and horror genres but I will not watch Still Life. Ms. Noxon's treatment of Willow and Tara on Buffy the Vampire Slayer has made me unwilling to give any series she is connected with any of my time.



Sincerely,



Name



E-mail address





Will it have any effect? Not now, but in the future when the post mortum is being done on what went wrong with Fox's new series perhaps it will be recognized as an indicator.



Thank you for your time,



Jixer

[WebWarlock]

Ok,



The RenewAngel people are using postcards and emails.



I am tempted to say DON'T send any postcards. All they will do is count them and really, postcards mean very little.



Call them.



There is a nice receptionist at (818) 977-5000. Tell her you want to leave a message on the view opinion line, but it is full. Be sure to tell her that you don't want to see Angel back on the air next season.



Failing that here is a fax number (818) 977-6771.

And an email address, standard@talk.thewb.com.



Sam: Thanks, also try standard@thewb.com.



Have fun.



Warlock

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The Other Side,
home of Liber Mysterium: The Netbook of Witches and Warlocks

"If this is all the gods can do, I'm over to the Darkside so fast." - Tom Servo Mystery Science Theater 3000, Episode 903 "Pumaman".

Edited by: WebWarlock at: 4/9/03 4:20:07 pm

[sam7777]

standard@talk.thewb.com bounced back for me but

faces@talk.thewb.com works fine.

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Edited by: sam7777  at: 4/9/03 4:11:13 pm