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Re: Angel

Postby sam7777 » Mon Apr 28, 2003 3:15 pm

Too true Tim. It will be all the sweeter if Angel is cancelled after Joss has spewed this. I would be so happy of the WB dropped Angel if only to teach Joss a lesson. JW deserves to have all his shows fail this season IMHO. Of course for me they are all already off the air since I'm not watching any ME shows.

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Re: Angel

Postby kajo 2000 » Tue Apr 29, 2003 5:58 am

Herc's latest column at Aint It Cool News has a report from last weekend's Vulkon Convention in Cleveland - here are excerpts of the various Q&As:



Quote:
Andy Hallett: When asked about the renewal of Angel, he asked his agent who said there's no renewal as yet. The deadline as you know is May 15 and Andy seemed anxious to know too.




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James Marsters: When asked about the likelihood of appearing on Angel, James's outlook was not all that positive. He expressed very clearly that he was definitely "in talks" and that he 100% wanted to be a regular on the show. He really wants to do it, but from what he said, it may not be very likely. He explained that AtS has a limited amount of $ to spend for its regulars and being a cast regular is the only way he would consider it. He does not want to do a guest arc on the show because it would cause him to bleach his hair etc... which would deter him from seeking other roles. He said that for him to become a regular, the show would surely have to lose a regular character to pay his salary. Everyone in the audience suggested that we would gladly see Connor get the axe for our weekly Spike fix. To that James said that he would never take someone else's job away to be in the show. So Boo Hoo, it's not looking so good.




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Iyari Limon: She was a little nervous about her Q&A and someone tried to ask her about the situation on the set when SMG announced that she would be leaving. They asked if there was animosity on the set directed at SMG. She looked horrified and did not know what to say, the crowd suggested she say "No Comment" and she collected herself and said that she was too new to be able to read the emotions/thoughts of the rest of the cast. She also said that she has had a lot of flack regarding JFK's relationship with Willow, letters etc but that she is simply thrilled to be a part of the show and is very seriously honored to have her scenes with Alyson Hannigan. She also said that both Adam Busch (Warren) and Willow are great kissers, but that Adam in particular dug the kissing scenes a lot.




I'm sorry to hear that Iyari has been receiving hate mail. I don't like JFK or JFK but complaints should be directed at M.E. not at an actress who is just trying to do her job.



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Edited by: kajo 2000 at: 4/29/03 10:40:40 am
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Re: Angel

Postby xita » Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:30 am

I wouldn't necessarily call that hate mail, but I do agree she should never be the target of any discontent fans feel about killow.



Still I found this very funny. She could not answer how the cast felt towards SMG, it feels like some people were upset SMG decided she had better things to do. And yeah Adam would dig that kiss, it actually seemed real. I'd be really surprised if Aly would say something similar, considering the look on her face when it's happening.



And James, I am liking the man taking a stand against ME and saying I want a fulltime job or not at all. God, I hope that works out that way so certain fans can feel what it is like when your character gets dead and stays dead.

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Re: Angel

Postby sam7777 » Tue Apr 29, 2003 11:36 am

I'm sorry to see anger directed at IL and not at ME where it belongs. I seriously doubt that many of the letter writers are W/T fans. I'm one of the most rabid here and I have nothing against IL. IL has been poorly servered by the ME writers. In the newsgroup and other boards, there are many pople who hate the character of JFK with a passion that I simply have not seen here. ME has not done a good job selling that character to the fans. And yet Marti can still do interviews with Soap Opera weekly about how the new relationship has been accepted. IL's comments put a lie to that. Also the fact on how little nw/nssk interaction is seen on the show other than when ME needs to make the girl-gril sex point also puts a lie to that. It doesn't seem like IL is in talks for Angel.



I applaud JM for taking a stand. ME has been dangling Angel in front of him and asking him not to do auditions with no guarantee of a job for him.
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He explained that AtS has a limited amount of $ to spend for its regulars
I've been thinking for some time that Fox would have to hold down the license fee for Angel to keep it on the WB. This is the first admission in public that AtS has to hold costs down. That said, I still think that Fox will want a license fee that covers the whole cost of production. If they make the WB pay for Angel, they will get pure profit from syndication on TNT and sales of the DVD and other merchandise. I imagine that the production cost for Angel is somewhere between $1.8 million to 2.3million per episode using Buffy's cost as an example. I think that the WB will offer no more than $1.5 millionsince they offered $1.8 million for Buffy and Buffy was perfroming alot better than Angel is now: (from Futon critic)



2002-2003: Angel rank 137, 3.62 million vewers 2.30/3.35 ave national rating

2000-2001: Buffy rank 109, 4.39 million vewers 2.91/4.50 ave national rating





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Re: Angel

Postby Sheridan » Tue Apr 29, 2003 11:43 am

There is a flip side to the money issue; if FOX did accept the same license fee that would mean either:



No pay raise for any regulars and certainly no new regulars.

OR

Less money for effects, location shoots, etc.



Option one means a very unhappy cast who might be reluctant to sign up in some cases. Option two means a show that is going to look cheap and nasty, as opposed to just nasty this season.

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Re: Angel

Postby sam7777 » Tue Apr 29, 2003 12:41 pm

Sheridan: You are right. Imagine how the cast will feel if they turned down other opportunities to stay with the show. I think alot of this is coming out now because the shows have stopped filming and folks are sitting on their hands unless they have moved on like: SMG, AH, MT, EC, ED and NB.



The writers and producers on Buffy can move on because that show is done but they have not done that well. Marti's new show, "Still Life" is not on the projected schedule for Fox next season and Greenwalt's series "Miracles has been cancelled. As far as I know, MN and Joss are the only ME folks to have signed seven-figure deals with various studios to create, develop as well as executive produce new projects. These deals were made on the strength of their prior work and certainly not their work this season unlike the folks from Smallville who have been rewared with big deals. ME folks haven't done much this seaosn to get rewards. JE has a consulting producer and producer/writer job with GG, the GG spin off and "The OC" which does have a 13 ep order. SDK is writing a script for Disney. However, far as I know neither SDK nor JE or any other ME folks besides JW and MN have lucrative 7 figure development deals.



The Angel folks like David Fury, on the other hand, are sitting on their hands. Fury's web site shows him as having no future plans. I imagine he has a contract for Angel and must wait to see if Angel is on next year. Greenwalt has come back to do work on Angel apparently breaking stories for next season and is working on a movie with the "Miracles" producer. I don't think that Greenwalt has a developement deal on his own. I think he was just signed on to exec produce "Miracles" at ABC and has the consulting producer job on Angel. The Angel folks are still teetering on that fence. Which way will they fall off?



ETA: it's funny how the news on Ange's renewal hasn't really changed much from what was said about it on January 13th:

www.enquirer.com/editions...PIX13.html
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Contracts expire this spring for UPN's Buffy the Vampire Slayer and WB's Dawson's Creek and Angel. Network executives told the Television Critics Association meeting here that they aren't optimistic the popular dramas will be back this fall.
Two of the three shows are now gone. Will Angel make it 3 for 3?



I have a question for you industry insiders. Has any production company had 3 shows cancelled in one season and/or all their programming cancelled in one season? If Angel is cancelled, will ME set a new record?

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Re: Angel

Postby tyche » Wed Apr 30, 2003 5:02 am

I'm not sure if this specific article has been posted elsewhere on the board - I couldn't find it, but maybe I was looking in the wrong place.



Anyway, David Boreanaz has been cast as the baddie in the new 'Crow' film. No, I didn't know that there was a franchise of 'Crow' films either, but there you go...

www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,11697,00.html

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Re: Angel

Postby emma peel » Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:48 am

I say, "Good for David!" :clap

I saw the first two Crow films. They were masterpieces compared to the stuff Mutant Enema has put out the last couple of years.

Janice

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Re: Angel

Postby sam7777 » Wed Apr 30, 2003 3:34 pm

I posted more on David's new gig in the Don't Look Back- Actors After Escaping ME thread. It films in June so will not conflict with Angel (if that is renewed). Futon critic is doing a Save your Show contest where people write essays as to why they want a particular show save and the top ten are printed. So far essays for 10-6 have been posted. The shows so far are:



10. "hack"

9. "boomtown"

8."fastlane"

7. "american dreams"

6. "third watch"

5. "john doe"



Wanna bet that Angel will be number one thanks to that small group of "vocal" fans. However, Angel's status is more uncertain now than the 50-80% chance of renewal that we got before. Fewer folks are now saying that it's a lock for renewal and the WB's enthusiams for new shows like the GG spin off, "Tarzan and Jane" and "Young MacGyver" is not good news for Angel.



Since the WB renewed most of it's dramas except Angel, there are few available 1 hour show slots. Angel is only feasible because of it's adult content (it typically rates as TV14) for the 9pm slots IMHO. They could do the Buffy warning thing and put it on at 8pm but then the only slot really available is the Thursday death slot up against the WWE. I don't think that the WB will spend money to renew it and then dump it there. The WB had success paring Buffy with Angel (2 shows same producer) so I expect them to do the same with GG and it's spin off and Smallville and Tarzan. IMHO, the feasible slots for Angel next season are 9pm on Sunday, Tuesday and Wednesday. The GG spin off is a lock so if the WB premieres 2 other dramas then Angel is gone.



My project WB schedule:

Sunday

7pm "High School Reunion" renewed

(too early for Angel's TV14 rating)

8pm "Charmed" renewed

9pm "Young MacGyver"

(both "Tarzan and Jane" and "Young MacGyver" are vying for this slot)

Monday

8pm "7th Heaven" renewed

9pm "Everwood" renewed

(The WB is not going to change this)

Tuesday

8pm "Gilmore Girls" renewed

9pm GG spin off

(if Smallville goes to Wednesday then this is a lock for the GG spin off)

Wednesday

8pm "Smallville" renewed

9pm "Tarzan and Jane"

(with Smallville as a lead-in, I expect to see it paired with "Tarzan and Jane" which was created by one of the "Smallville" producers no doubt using their lucrative 7 figure development deal. I somply can't see them wasting a stron lead-in from Smallville on a fading show like Angel)

Thursday

8 pm 2 sitcoms or a reality show

9pm "the surreal life" renewed

9:30 another sitcom

(The 8pm slot is too early for Angel. Unlike UPN, the WB is a family network.This is the WB's graveyard. They routinely lose by a large margin to UPN's WWE at 8pm)

Friday

8 pm 2 sitcoms

9pm Reba

9:30 another sitcom

(Like Thursday, the Friday 8pm slot is too early for Angel. Also, I can't imagine they will use Angel as a lead-in to Reba)



The schedule comes out on May 12th but I'm pretty sure I'm close to the final one. Futon Critic and Herc have come up with much the same schedule that is also without Angel.



Herc: www.aintitcoolnews.com/di...i?id=15075

Futon critic: www.thefutoncritic.com/cg...d=20030404



It's possible that they may renew Angel for 13 eps and keep it as a mid season replacement but I don't think this will happen. First, I don't think Fox will go for it since it would mean a lower license fee. Second, The WB has loads of shows in development to replace any of the potential 3 new dramas that fail:

www.thefutoncritic.com/cg...ype=pilots



IMHO the key to the WB's schedule is their renewal of almost all of their dramas. They don't have many empty slots and have good shows for lead-in. They can afford to try some new programming.



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Re: Angel

Postby BBOvenGuy » Wed Apr 30, 2003 3:45 pm

Just FYI, spoilers indicate that Gilmore Girls episode 21, airing May 13, is for all practical purposes the spinoff pilot. There's a frame-story set in Stars Hollow, but the bulk of the action centers around Jess's arrival in California. It'll be interesting to see how that does in the ratings.

"The first task of anyone, lest you get canceled, is to entertain people, because they ain't there for message." - Dick Wolf

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Re: Angel

Postby sam7777 » Wed Apr 30, 2003 5:39 pm

Bob: Rumor is that GG spin off is a lock for next season which is why the WB isn't doing a separate pilot.



It seems obvious (to me anyway) that the WB is pilot and new show happy. Even Minear is trying to make like Angel is a new show: (from Zap2it posted by kajo)
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Consulting producer Tim Minear wrote and directed "Home," the season finale, in which the outcome of the battle against Jasmine draws the attention of the mysterious senior partners at the evil law firm Wolfram & Hart, which makes Angel and his crew an offer they can't refuse.
Why didn't Joss write the finale? Angel could be his last show on the air. He should give it the same effort he gave to get Firefly on the air and try to keep it on.
Quote:
"We tried to design it so that it would basically be a pilot for next season," says Minear. "It's setting up the new configuration for the show. I guess you could call it a cliffhanger. It's really not. There is some resolution to story threads that have been pushed throughout the season, but it really is a pilot."
Translated: Hey Angel is a new show too. Please don't replace us with "Tarzan and Jane" and "Young Macgyver". The fallacy of this is that Angel in the most optimistic estimates has about 1-2 years whereas a new show could be on for 3-7 years in an optimistic estimate. Big difference.
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The WB has expressed concerns that "Angel," while a solid ratings performer, may not be able to significantly increase its audience.
Angel is solidly getting it's lowest ratings ever. As for increasing it's audience, the highest number of viewers it's gotten this season is: (from Futon critic)



10/6/02 4.6 million for the season premiere

The highest number of viewers for Wednesday nights is 4.1 million on 4/16/03 but that didn't last. They were back down to 3.5 million the very next week (4/23/03). That's lower than Angel's season average of 3.62 million viewers. The funny thing about Angels' ratings is that Angel has only aired 5 repeats (Buffy aired 13 this season) so you can't blame the drop on low repeat ep ratings.



ETA: Futon Critic Save your Show contest update:

10. "hack"

9. "boomtown"

8."fastlane"

7. "american dreams"

6. "third watch"

5. "john doe"

4. "scrubs"

3. "ed"

Just wait Angel will be #1.



ETA: As expected Angel was #1:

2. "the angency"

1. "angel"



The funny thing about the Angel letter is that it was not signed:
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1. why you should save "angel" (759 letters)

by an "angel" fan



Note: The person who wrote this letter forgot to sign their name. If they would contact us we would be more than happy to provide credit to them.
Hey if I was defending Angel, I'd want to be anonymous too but then I don't watch Angel.



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Re: Angel

Postby sam7777 » Fri May 02, 2003 4:03 pm

Sorry for the double post.



Angel's renewal remains an open issue. According to the BBC only Ain't It Cool and Joss Whedon have claimed that is renewed or close to renwal. The truth won't come out until May 12th, however, when the WB announces their new fall schedule.

www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/c...3988.shtml

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Angel Renewed?



After weeks of uncertainly for Executive Producer Joss Whedon, the influential Ain't It Cool news site are the first to claim that Angel will be renewed for a fifth season.
Angel is certainly the most talked about show vis a vis renewal. Time will tell if that is enough to get the show a 5th season.



Bob: Thanks for the info on the Gilmore Girls spin off. Between that and American idol, I expect Buffy to take a hit in the ratings.



Emma and Tyche: I also thin it's great that David Boreanus has another gig. With the jury still out on Angel, it makes sense for him to do other projects. This movie could lead to something else. Also, I'm a fan of the Crow movies.

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Re: Angel

Postby Sheridan » Fri May 02, 2003 4:55 pm

Well since we have been told that the decision won't be made for another couple of weeks I suspect AICN is trying to turn wishes into reality.

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Willow: I am

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Stephanie Romanov interview

Postby kajo 2000 » Sun May 04, 2003 2:54 am

From Zap2it:



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'Angel's' Lilah Is Dead and Loving It

Sat, May 3, 2003 11:13 AM PDT

by Kate O'Hare

Zap2it, TV News




LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - It's hard to keep a bad girl down.



Proof of that is the return of the nefarious lawyer Lilah (Stephanie Romanov), who made a surprise appearance at the end of the April 30 episode of The WB's "Angel."



Killed, bitten and then beheaded earlier in the season, Lilah is back from the depths of hell to make an offer to good-vampire Angel (David Boreanaz) and his gang, in the wake of their defeat of the people-eating false deity Jasmine (Gina Torres).



"Basically my contract with [the evil law firm of] Wolfram & Hart extends beyond death," Romanov says. "When the senior partners need me to do something, they send me back for whatever. It's basically, you sell your soul to the devil, and he always has it."



Not yet renewed for a fifth season (that announcement will formally come on May 13), "Angel" is revamping its format a bit early, showcasing the new direction in "Home," its fourth-season finale, airing Wednesday, May 7, at 9 p.m. ET.



"It's almost like they're doing a pilot episode as far as the shot sequences and their ambitiousness in the scenes," Romanov says. "There's a lot of really great stuff and big, beautiful sets. I'll be interested to see how it goes over."



Romanov has just returned from a convention in Denver, and says, "I know all the fans were hoping it comes back, and hoping I was coming back, which is nice. I'm their favorite evil character to watch. She's evil, but you root for her, then you don't quite root for her."



A rising star at the Tinseltown branch of Wolfram & Hart - which appears to have most of the supernatural evildoers in Los Angeles as clients - Lilah has been a chief foe of Angel, as he tries to fulfill his destiny and help the helpless.



But every now and then, Lilah's human side showed through, especially in her love/hate relationship with Angel's colleague, Wesley (Alexis Denisof), begun when he was on the outs with the group and starting to explore his own dark side.



"That storyline gave my character a lot more to do than I ever had been given before," Romanov says. "Finally you got to see Lilah have more of a life and a bit of her vulnerability and strength."



From her sleek hairstyle to her power suits, Romanov had a very clear view of Lilah.



"I always saw her as a film noir character," she says. "She's always got the suits that fit right, the hair, the makeup. I'm feminine, but watch out. I don't need to dress like a boy."



During the fourth season, Lilah engaged in a war of wits with ambitious fellow lawyer Gavin (Daniel Dae Kim).



"I adore Daniel, the way," Romanov says. "But the first time I worked with him ... Lilah is written as a very cold, mean character. I hadn't met him before the rehearsal, and I did the scene and was messing with him a little bit, because that's what Lilah does. He did not like me and was a little bit afraid of me."



"When it was over, I went up to him and said, 'I'm so sorry, it's not me. I'm paid to do that. I have to be bad.' We became very good friends and liked each other very much, but it was interesting to see his response to me, not knowing me, and just seeing me in character at that moment."



"On the other hand, I felt proud, saying, 'Hey, it's working.'" Last week, Lilah appeared in a delicate lacy top. In "Home," she switches to a flirty magenta blouse with a plunging neckline, worn over black pants.



"Producers always like to see a little skin," Romanov says. "The way I looked at it, she's been trapped in hell, she gets to come back for a bit, she wants to snap it up."



Of course, being dead is nothing new for Romanov. "I've been killed in so many shows and came back. I got killed in 'Models, Inc.' and came back as somebody who happened to look like myself."



"I was killed in 'Spy Hard' and came back as my daughter 15 years later. I was killed in 'Seven Days,' but they went back in time and saved me. So it seems to be a theme. My mom says, 'Why do they always kill you?'"



Romanov had some warning of Lilah's fate, but her co-stars didn't. "It was a big secret, and the page only came out that day. [The cast members] came up to me and were so kind, saying, 'I can't believe they're killing you, what's wrong with them? We love working with you.' So nice."



"Then the day I came back and walked on set, everybody started applauding. I almost started crying. I was so moved. I didn't expect it. It was beautiful."



As for the future - if there is one - Romanov says, "I don't know if the show's being picked up or not, but they did say they had some plans for me. That'd be nice. I'm not sure in what form or how, but, of course, they never tell me anything. Even when they called to ask if I'd do the last two episodes, they didn't tell me what was going on or how I was coming back."



"I said, 'Um, remember, you chopped my head off?' They said, 'It's a show about a vampire. Put things in reference.' There's a great line that I love saying in the episode, where she says to Angel, 'Dead, not stupid.'"




Interview with "Angel" show-runner Jeffrey Bell in Dreamwatch magazine (May 2003 issue - #105) - transcript posted by Setje at Spoiler Crypt:



Quote:
Hell's Bell

By John Mosby



Angel rose from the watery depths of season three's finale to take on some stiff opposition, but what's next? Jeffrey Bell tells Dreamwatch why the vampire series still has bite.



Only a short while ago, Angel was the little show that could. Still in the shadow of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (despite it moving to another network), even the most favourable reviews would compare and contrast it with its parent show. But nowadays – though the connection still exists in tenuous forms – Angel is more than capable of casting its own dark shadow and taking on the opposition on its own merits. This year, Angel has garnered decent ratings on the WB, delighting if surprising its fans and TV pundits across the US. Despite being renewed on a year-to-year basis, the show seems to have a healthy pulse… or does it?



"In the past, UPN have said they'd pick up Angel if the WB dropped it, so if that occurs we'll see if that's true," says show-runner Jeffrey Bell. "Our show seems to get the same amount of viewers whenever we air. We've been up against The Sopranos, Malcolm in the Middle and Alias this year. It can be frustrating but the fact is that if we don't get the good numbers, they won't bring us back…So we just try to tell cool stories and hope that people show up."



"Last year, the critics were so kind to us. We were a spin-off but nobody thought of us as a spin-off. It's a small show… Ratings-wise we're not way up there, but critically we're good."



Bell began his Mutant Enemy career last season. After several years on The X-Files, he wrote a few episodes of Angel and this year became an Executive Producer, overseeing all aspects of the show when David Simkins prematurely left the position.



Season's Greetings



Last season was the series' first genuine cliffhanger. Though the show's first season dangled the return of Darla and the second year the return from the wacky Pylea dimension, the third season left everyone short of breath…literally. We saw Angel being dispatched to watery depths by the ill-conceived plan of his ill-conceived son, Connor. Simultaneously, and with an intended metaphorical, physical and visual irony, Cordelia was chosen to rise to a higher plane. So, will season four be more serialised than previous years? Not really, says Bell.



"We're picking things up from before. The first six or seven episodes probably took place over the period of a week or so. Many of them picked up seconds, minutes or hours after the previous episode. That was something that really worked for us last year. There wasn't much room for many stand-alone-ish episodes. We found that when we mined the emotional lives of our characters and their pain, people seem to be more interested."



Though Bell is reluctant to reveal too much about how various plot threads will pay off at the end of this season, he is happy to talk about how the strength of the actors in the show has aided the writer's task.



Take, for instance, the man behind former Watcher Wesley. While Wesley was once an object of ridicule, the mere mention of his recent much darker persona has many a woman trembling at the knees. It's a character growth that has delighted fans and the storytellers alike, so expect no quick-fixes for either him or any of the season regulars.



"That has a lot to do with Alexis (Denisof) being such a terrific actor and we wanted to take advantage of that. He hasn't really got over his feelings for Fred," he explains. "Fred came out of Pylea kinda insane, then wacky, and then got into a relationship with Gunn. This year we want to treat her much more as a woman, showing other sides to her. She can be vindictive, she can be cold."



High Concepts



Last year Buffy won major critical acclaim for the high-concept musical Once More, With Feeling, Bell says there are no plans to emulate that kind of spectacle, but series crator Joss Whedon's episode Spin the Bottle broke the usual mould with Lorne speaking directly to camera. "We broke the fourth wall in that one. He is telling the story as if it already happened. We don't know if it was two days after it happened or five years from now. Literally in the middle of a scene, we had Lorne say: 'Now, I was unconscious at this point, but I know it happened like this…' or 'What she didn't know was this…'. Once More, With Feeling had a great hook with everyone's feelings out in the open and resetting the stage. We've got a bit of goofiness on Angel, but also some texture to it as well."



The last time we saw rogue Slayer Faith she was doing her time for her crimes and trying to atone for her sins. However, she currently holds the mantle of "The Chosen One" (remember, Buffy defaulted by carelessly dying a number of times and therefore passing on the title) and may finally have to prove she deserves it. Faith is back with a vengeance on both Buffy and Angel. Why? To help battle another familiar face…"Faith is out there. The reason she (shows) up is because Angelus is also back." Says Bell.



"We've got the Beast; He's a traditional demon… You know, the kind from Tim Curry's Legend? Last year we had Holtz with a huge personal conflict and this year we're talking about an Apocalypse, the Angel prophecies and the role of Connor. We feel it's about time we paid some of those bills."



Bell's highpoint in writing for the series came this year when he unleashed Vladimir Kulich's Beast on demonic legal firm Wolfram & Hart. "The first one I wrote (this season) had a lot of comedy, but Habeus Corpses was our Big Bad decimating Wolfram and Hart – just decimating them! I love Wolfram and Hart… It's not just the lawyers in the boardroom, but what's happening in the basement, in the files, in the White Room. There are so many layers."



Bell doesn't want to reveal the even bigger Bad behind The Beast (although if you've reading Dreamwatch's news section you might have an idea!) "It's fun to know things but I don't want to give 'spoilers'," Bell admits, shaking his head at the news that a complete script appeared online before it even reached the hands of those at Fox.



Before the season ends Bell will have a hand in revelations about Cordelia and contribute to the episodes Calvary and Players, as well as write solo again before the season culminates in the episode Road Trip.



As for beyond the fourth season finale, well, it's still one season at a time for Angel. But Jeffrey Bell is optimistic and full of the energy that permeates every inch of the offices in Mutant Enemy's Santa Monica location.



How long can Angel fly? "Forever!" he laughs. "I really think we've hit our stride. Where we're going this season - if we pull it off - we think it'll be a really cool surprise."




Interview with David Boreanaz in Starburst magazine (May 2003 issue - #57) - transcript posted by Setje at Spoiler Crypt:



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Reflections of the Undead

By Joe Nazzaro



As he gears up for a possible fifth series as the vampire detective, actor David Boreanaz talks about the past, present and future of Angel.



David Boreanaz can't believe his eyes. The actor, better known as the angst-ridden vampire Angel, is on his way to a night shoot for one of the final season four episodes when his attention is diverted by an unexpected super-hero sighting. "There's somebody dressed like Spider-Man crossing the street; this is so Hollywood!" he points out with a mixture of amusement and surprise. "Look at that: he's trying to catch the bus; either that or he's going for a jog. That's pretty bizarre, isn't it?"



Ironically, Boreanaz recently had his own potential brush with super-heroic fame when he ended up on the short list for Warner Bros' upcoming Superman movie. Until now, the actor hadn't really acknowledged that meeting, but during the course of this conversation, he confirms that it did indeed happen. "Yes, I did meet with them, but I do know that other things are in motion. I think when things are right and everything is in place and those kind of events happen, then they will. Everything that happens, happens for a reason, and so be it."



Mind you, there was some high-powered competition for the dual role of Clark Kent/Superman, including Brendan Fraser and Josh Hartnett. Rumour has it that while Boreanaz's shooting schedule on Angel precluded his involvement with Superman, the studio is keeping him in mind for director Christopher Nolan's Batman film, which is now in development. "Well, the list was probably there," the actor notes of the former project, "but my shooting schedule is undetermined as far as the show is concerned, so it would be pretty hard to commit to something that strong right now. Who knows what's going to happen?"



Playing the lead in a major network series can be a bit of a mixed blessing. It's certainly resulted in increased visibility, but Angel doesn't leave an awful lot of time for other projects. Boreanaz has used the last couple of season hiatuses to appear in the features Valentine and I'm With Lucy, and that's about it for the time being. "You're constantly battling a time frame that you want to try and fit something in inside a hiatus, because we shoot nine months out of the year, so that's been difficult. I have been fortunate to be able to fit in two films within the four seasons of the show, but what's going to happen during the hiatus this year, we don't know. It's hard to determine if we'll be able to find something I can fit myself into.



"I don't have the luxury of saying the availability is there. I do get presented stuff where they'll say, 'He's great, and we want him, but oh, we can't use him because he's got a show to go back to.' Trying to work it out is very difficult because you're the lead of a show and that's my responsibility, so I just have to chalk it up and say that another opportunity will arise. There are tons of films being made, and tons of theatre projects and they're not going anywhere, so it's just a matter of being there when the time is right."



There's also the matter of being identified with a certain kind of role. Some actors have suffered from typecasting after spending too much time in a genre – look at the stars associated with playing Superman over the years. Right now though, Boreanaz isn't too worried about that. "You're involved in a show that's critically acclaimed, you're making a mark, and I'm playing a character with a lot of different types of personalities that have been brought out in the last four season. I'm very proud of those different types of characteristics that I've learned from him, so for me, it's been a case study in how to play different characters in different situations, and we are under the radar, which is nice. We're a cult show, so it's not an overblown success. I've always subscribed to that, and it's nice, not to be too overblown. There are a lot of film people out there who don't know who I am because they haven't seen the show. They don't know the show, but then they see it and say, 'Oh, that's great!' so it's eye-opening. It's refreshing rather than being a curse to me."



So where does Boreanaz want to see Angel go in season five or beyond? Right now, he's happy to see where things go. '"I just let the writers do their thing and enjoy the ride. "I don't have a mental wish list in terms of where this is going to lead me. How is this going to get me my next gig? Is this going to open up doors to a film career that's going to flourish and be heavenly and make tons of money and do this and that? It's not really about that. For me, it's all about having fun and being part of a group of people that enjoy their work."



"When I did I'm With Lucy, what was so fascinating was that people loved being there. Everybody had a great time, it was like a party. If you can find the best gig that you could want to go to and have a great time and talk and laugh and perform, then sign me up. That's my deal, I love that. I've always looked at it as a whole. I love leading the charge and saying, 'Let's go do this,' that's just in my nature, so as far as all of that is concerned, that's really what I'm striving for, and right now, I'm feeling the love of everyone having a good time on set. As frustrating and as hard and as tiring as it may be at times, when we're there joking around and having fun between takes, that's a blast. We're not talking behind people's back and that s**t, any egos, leave it outside the f**king door. This is all about working together under a microscope in this business."



"I just want to have fun and I want to play roles that are challenging. I want to stretch my voice, I open it up, I'm in a really interesting transition right now, where I'm experiencing new things in my life that I think are going to help my career. As you get older, you get wiser, and your experiences in life, which you take to your work, and I'm excited about that. I'm at a point where I'm really excited about the possibilities, about showing up and going into a room and showing that I can do this, or going on to a set and saying, 'I can do that!' because I've done that."



One area that the actor has expressed an interest in is directing an episode or two of the series. "I'd love to be able to step behind the camera and direct. Because I'm so heavily involved in it and understand the show and the way it's shot, the fight sequences, the special FX; yeah, I'd really enjoy that. I've been doing the show for four seasons now, and I have a sense of what all the characters are really all about. So, in a way, I can do the technical stuff at one and the same time as stepping into the character. I think that's actually a plus rather than a negative. There's definitely something about acting which is rigid and disciplined and technical as well as being personal, so you bring that to the table as well."



Moving on to life after Angel, the actor has to wait until the WB finally makes a decision about season five. "I can't worry about any of that stuff right now," he insists. "It's out of my control. I'm an artist, who shows up and does his work as best he possibly can and calls it a day. We went through the same thing last year: are we going to get picked up, when are we going back? We didn't find out until May, and the same thing is happening this season. My job is to do the best job I can, moment to moment, scene to scene and then see what happens."



That said, Boreanaz does admit that his priorities have shifted significantly since he became a father. "I don't take the business as seriously as I used to. No, of course I take it very seriously, but I understand the level of commitment and what it takes, and that's pretty much it. It's a question of understanding exactly how much work is needed to maintain a certain level. I think on Angel the level is always high and I've always tried to raise that level, so there are many years to come and I'm looking forward to that journey as well."



Where that journey ultimately leads is a mystery that even Angel's omniscient Powers-That-Be can't predict. For David Boreanaz, at the present, life is good, and there's no point in skipping ahead to see how the story ends. "I'm very excited that I've been able to play a character that's multi-dimensional, who's got numerous amounts of personalities, and I feel confident that I can step into other roles that are presented to me and enjoy those roles. For me, this is a big warm-up to a lot of good things to come!"



Angel Light?



As long-time viewers can attest. Angel has certainly explored some darker areas in recent months, including betrayals, in-fighting, and, of course, a massive body count. For Boreanaz it's time for a few lighter moments. "I think we saw a lot more of it in the first season," he notes. "We saw a lot more of that: trying to get him out of his dark mood, some kind of slapstick humour, his jumping into a car and it's not his car, stuff like that. There were moments where we really tried to bring out that quality in him in the first season, but we eventually put that away. The best position to put Angel in is an uncomfortable position, when he's around people and he's embarrassed or he has to sing and he's horrible; Those are funny moments, and if you put him in those situations, that's what bring out the humour in him and I'd definitely love to see more of that."



The actor isn't afraid to poke fun at his own character either; witness Angel's disastrous dancing in Season One or his less-than-successful karaoke singing. "They're situations where he has to do something he's really bad at and, when they occur, they are very funny. We never know what's going to happen in those situations. I enjoy that because it's fresh and unique and you just go with it and see what happens. With Joss's writing , if you have a moment like that, there's always a transition to a dark place, attacking a demon or faced with a life or death situation. The show lends itself to that. It's a nice balance.



The Best Of Angel



With nearly four seasons of Angel under his belt, one would think Boreanaz would have put together a mental list of a few favourite episodes, but the actor admits he really hasn't gone back and looked at his previous work on the series. "I kind of move on and don't really look back much. I can look at the body of work and remember what was going on that day, but I don't really go back to it."



Still, there are a couple of episodes that eventually come to the front of his mind. "In the first season, I think it was the episode Eternity, with a girl who wanted to be the movie actress. That one I remember, and the first episode of the first season, as far as showing what the character is all about. With the episode about the movie actress, you get a sense of Angelus when he comes out. You see his playfulness, which is really fun, and his sheer confidence and determination to help that other character. And in the pilot, I think we see him in a lonely state of mind and having a huge challenge in front of him that's presented by certain characters."




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Re: Stephanie Romanov interview

Postby darkmagicwillow » Sun May 04, 2003 4:39 pm

kajo, thanks for the interview. I guess we'll see on Wednesday what their new concept is, but overall I hope they don't mess with what has been working so well in their best season yet.

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Re: Angel

Postby Warduke » Sun May 04, 2003 11:03 pm

From AICN...



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Fave ANGEL Writer Minear Gets New Gig!!



I am – Hercules!!



Minear wrote this coming Wednesday’s fabulous “Angel” season finale.



“Wonder Falls,” for those wondering, is about a young woman – played by 24-year-old French Canadian Caroline Dhavernas (“Tag”) – who has visions. It's not to be confused with Eliza Dushku's proposed Fox series, "True Calling." I’ll be watching both. Here’s “The Insider”:



Hey Herc,



If the WB decides to renew "Angel" for a 5th season, the show will return without its best writer, Tim Minear. Tim has taken a job as head-writer/show-runner for the new Fox series "Wonder Falls." This last season, he worked as show-runner on the ill-fated "Firefly", but was still a consulting producer on "Angel".



- The Insider



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Re: Angel

Postby xita » Sun May 04, 2003 11:37 pm

ooh interesting. So no faith in Angel? Or perhaps working environment not what it should be.. hee

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Re: Angel

Postby BytrSuite » Sun May 04, 2003 11:42 pm

Thanks Brian! Heh, that's just funny.



Get out while you can. Rats from a sinking ship, indeed.


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Re: Angel

Postby kajo 2000 » Mon May 05, 2003 12:44 am

Stacia has posted a report of this weekend's LA Comic Con to An Angel's Soul:



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Before David (Boreanaz) came out at the LA Comic Con, they showed the three minute reel that ME cut together for the WB, to get them to renew Angel.



It had clips from all four seasons (up to Players for Season 4). It had Lorne kind of "hosting" it using his speech at Caritas (I forget the exact episode). The focus was on the big action and special effects sequences, for example: the old office exploding, when Connor first showed up all grown up, Angel & Faith falling out the window, lots of fighting the Beast clips, Angelus vs Faith, etc.



They had one clip with Spike. None of Buffy or Willow's appearances in Angel. Lots of Faith clips. At least five. There were a couple of Gwen clips. I'm not sure if that means ME is promoting Gwen and Faith returning to the WB or not.



There was also a lot of the funny moments. The whole zany humor aspect seemed to be a selling point.



As for shippy stuff, I didn't see ME promoting C/A at all. There was very few Cordy clips at all. The only major one was Glowy Cordy yelling about getting her out of heaven.



Overall, it was an excellent promotional clip. I can't see how WB wouldn't be convinced to renew it after seeing that.


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Re: Angel

Postby willowntaraslovechild » Mon May 05, 2003 1:53 am

I dont understand how the WB would be impressed by those clips. Those are episodes everyone has seen already so its not like they are a preview or anything. Also whats the point of showing those clips when the show is being changed? Shouldnt they have shown clips of what the show is going to look like?

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Re: Angel

Postby kajo 2000 » Mon May 05, 2003 2:14 am

From TV Guide Online:



Quote:
Is Angel Livin' on a Prayer?

Monday, May 5, 2003

by Ben Katner with Michael Ausiello




Although the WB already has picked up many of its hits for next season, cult fave Angel is not among them.



Nonetheless, David Boreanaz, who plays the toothsome hero of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer spinoff, remains hopeful that good news is forthcoming. "I'm optimistic," he tells TV Guide Online, noting, "We didn't get an early renewal last year, either. You just kind of have to wait it out."



No doubt the actor's confidence is fueled by his knowledge of the plot twists that the season finale holds in store. In the next-to-last episode, cult leader Jasmine's apocalyptic plot was thwarted. (Was there ever any doubt?) Then, "the last episode is the beginning of what's to come, and that's really exciting. If the show ends, it would leave open so many doors. It wouldn't be like, 'Okay. Now, I understand it all.'"



Plus, Angel is sure to get a boost from the title do-gooder's long-awaited reunion with his Chosen One on UPN's Buffy sendoff. "Angel and Buffy meet, of course, in a perfect moment," Boreanaz reveals. "I won't say much about it, but I will say that it was good to see the two characters back together. It was easy, too — Sarah Michelle Gellar and I just kind of stepped back into it again."



Still, the leading man can't confirm that his undead counterpart's flirtation with she-demon Cordelia (Charisma Carpenter) is kaput. "I definitely see things changing," he allows. "But I was always 50/50 on [their romance] coming to fruition, anyway. There are bits of me that understood why those two should be together, but it wasn't 100 percent, like it was with Angel and Buffy. Angel and Cordelia both had different agendas and a lot of other stuff going on."



Despite the fact that Eliza Dushku elected to abandon her role as rogue slayer Faith in order to headline Fox's Heroine, Boreanaz promises that fans haven't seen the last of them together. "I wasn't disappointed by her choice," he insists. "I think she made the correct decision inside her own heart. She's a really talented person, and one that I look forward to working with in the future. I think that the two of us will cross paths again."



Until then, Boreanaz will content himself by channeling Angelus as a Satanic gang leader who murders Edward Furlong and Tara Reid in The Crow 4: Wicked Prayer, which begins shooting next month. "The script was really enticing," he says enthusiastically. "It's just wicked — and I really wanted to work with Dennis Hopper.



"There are also a couple of books I'm thinking of optioning into films," he adds. "I'm still working on a personal project about my father, but I don't foresee that happening anytime soon." Just as well: If our prayers are answered, Angel will keep him busy for years to come.




From USA Today:



Quote:
Fans speak in SOS survey, but will networks listen?

5/4/2003

By Gary Levin, USA TODAY




The votes are in: Readers most want to save WB's Angel, but they'd be just as happy to see NBC dump Thursday comedy Good Morning, Miami.



A record 57,000-plus voters responded to USA TODAY's sixth annual Save Our Shows (unscientific) survey, which asked viewers to weigh in on 19 shows hovering between renewal and cancellation — "on the bubble," in TV-speak.



The networks next week will announce which shows made the cut, as well as unveil fall series at presentations to advertisers in New York.



Top Save Our Shows picks



Save 'em:



Angel (WB)

Boomtown (NBC)

The Practice (ABC)



Ditch 'em:



Good Morning, Miami (NBC)

My Big Fat Greek Life (CBS)

Jamie JFK Experiment (WB)



Angel won support from nearly half of all voters, far more than the 34% who backed last year's favorite series, NBC's Third Watch, which is due back next season.



NBC's point-of-view police drama Boomtown and ABC's long-running legal series The Practice also were among top shows viewers want saved. CBS' My Big Fat Greek Life followed Good Morning, Miami as shows they'd most like to spike.



Survey results don't often determine the fate of "bubble" shows. Ratings, growth prospects and the quality of the pilots for their potential replacements (which were screened last week by networks) weigh most heavily in the decisions.



But loyal fan support can be a factor in some cases. NBC gave Providence a last-minute reprieve last spring after an uproar, but it dropped the drama six months later.



Affection for Angel is somewhat predictable: Sci-fi fans routinely turn out in droves to support favorites, which in previous years included Dark Angel, The X-Files and The Pretender, despite spotty ratings. Angel, airing on the smaller WB, ranks near the Nielsen cellar, averaging 3.7 million viewers.



Only five series —Angel, Boomtown, The Practice, John Doe and Dragnet — drew more votes from fans eager to keep them than from those desiring to drop them. CBS' The Agency, which appeared on last year's survey, drew equal numbers of supporters and naysayers.



The only other show to appear on last year's list as well, Grounded for Life, moved from Fox to WB in February. It was renewed for fall last month, after the survey started.


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Re: Angel

Postby helpful information perha » Mon May 05, 2003 10:18 am

www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjo...788124.htm



Heldenfels writes about television for the Beacon Journal. Contact him at 330-996-3582 or rheldenfels@thebeaconjournal.com



`West Wing' creator, director call it quits

Several TV visionaries step down, get canceled by end of the season

By R.D. Heldenfels



It's been a tough season for TV visionaries.



Late last week, The West Wing creator Aaron Sorkin abruptly announced his departure from the drama, along with Thomas Schlamme, another executive producer on the series and its main director.



Earlier this year, Fox comedy The Bernie Mac Show dumped series creator Larry Wilmore after he had clashed with the studio and network over that show's overall direction.



David E. Kelley, at times the most acclaimed writer-producer in television, failed miserably last fall with girls club. Kelley's The Practice wraps up its season with two episodes beginning at 9 tonight on ABC-- and serious questions about whether it will be back in the fall.



Joss Whedon, the mastermind of UPN's Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The WB's Angel and Fox's Firefly, saw Firefly fail early in its maiden season. Buffy ends its series runon May 20. And Angel's future beyond its season finale on Wednesday has at times been in doubt (though Whedon sounded optimistic a couple of weeks ago).



Michael Mann, a successful filmmaker, came to television with the brilliant CBS drama Robbery Homicide Division, only to encounter general indifference from viewers, and a swift cancellation.



And, on the news side, 60 Minutes creator Don Hewitt finally agreed to step down from the show next year, after prolonged wrangling with CBS over when the octogenarian Hewitt might finally hand over the reins.



This is not to say that every inventive producer has failed. Phil Rosenthal's singular vision has kept Everybody Loves Raymond a hit. Don Bellisario's JAG has thrived, and a spinoff is in the works. No one is turning off Anthony Zuiker's two CSI seriesor Dick Wolf's Law & Order shows.



But this season's changes demonstrate how hard it is to maintain a strong, individual view of a series in what is largely a collaborative medium.



Series creators have to answer not only to themselves, their casts and staff, but to the studios that make their shows, the networks that televise them and the viewers deciding whether to watch. And the show's makers cannot always control when their show airs, what competition they have to face, or how big a budget they get.



While all concerned insist that Sorkin's departure was voluntary, some reports noted his chronic slowness with scripts as well as battles over budget and the disappointing direction the show had taken. Kelley made a public stink when The Practice was moved from a seemingly secure slot on Sundays to a far more difficult spot on Mondays, where ratings slumped.



Then there's the matter of age -- of shows, of people, of ideas. CBS was obviously looking for a way to put a younger presence at the helm of 60 Minutes, and Hewitt's successor is a little more than half his age.



The Practice, The West Wing, Buffy and Angel have all been around for several years, and a show has to generate a couple of dozen good ideas every season. So it's not surprising that all those series have shown creative wear.



Whedon said in a recent telephone press conference that the decision to ax Buffy was not star Sarah Michelle Gellar's, as had been widely reported, but his.



``I knew this was my last season before Sarah made it official,'' he said. ``Even if Sarah changed her mind, I was done.'' He blamed ``pure physical exhaustion,'' adding that, ``I was afraid I was going to start to slip.''



Assuming Angel comes back -- and Whedon saw ``big love'' coming from The WB -- that show is going to be retooled. ``We want to take it to a new place,'' he said. ``We're looking at a new way to generate stories, to let people who've never seen it get into it.''





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Re: Angel

Postby jixer » Mon May 05, 2003 12:42 pm

Hello Kittens-



In an era of insider trading I just have to wonder if TM had some preknowledge about leaping out of AtS.



I'm hoping True Calling goes for at least a few seasons. I hope the exposure of "Wonder Falls" helps the actors when the series tanks.



Yep, the bitterness level is still high.



Jixer



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Re: Angel

Postby helpful information perha » Mon May 05, 2003 1:20 pm



media week



[Network Upfront Week Just One Week Away:

NBC will kick off the annual fall 2003 buyer presentations in New York next Monday, May 12, followed by the WB and ABC on Tuesday, CBS Wednesday and UPN and Fox on Thursday.]



so May 13th is the big day for WB - and when we know if Angel is on their schedule







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Re: Angel

Postby gspiggott » Mon May 05, 2003 2:48 pm

I'd say Time Minear taking another job is a big clue about Angel's future ,unless he's graciously removing himself so JW can bring the two Drew's over .

The new TV Guide has no special articles about the last episode of Buffy, but an interview with the Dawson's Creek cast and creator. There's also another of those let's fix Enterprise articles. UPN didn't even bother to take out an ad for the finale.

On an even stranger note in Newsweek, they have a small blurb about Aaron Sorkin leaving the West Wing and guess who pulls an LBJ(If nominated I will not run,if elected I will not serve)? Marti Noxious , who claims she wouldn't want the job if it was offered to her.

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Re: Angel

Postby helpful information perha » Mon May 05, 2003 3:20 pm

since it appears that job is already filled and would never be offered to her - I have to wonder why she's even mentioned

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Re: Angel

Postby gspiggott » Mon May 05, 2003 3:39 pm

HIP, that's why it's so funny she's the only other producer mentioned in the piece.Maybe someone at Newsweek was making an in joke.Has anyone gotten an e mail about how Angel kills Buffy in the finale?

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Re: Angel

Postby MaClayMagic » Mon May 05, 2003 3:58 pm

Yes, I got the email, nearly deleated it too because I had no idea who it was from. Then I got the one from Web Warlock that I had to agree with. For a moment when I read what happens I was surprised and then I was able to just shrug it off. I haven't watched season severed nor Angel since they killed Tara and I made the decision to cut ties with such shows. Can't say I am surprised with this idea but can't be bothered by it either. I think we all know who really killed Buffy. He should have stopped at season 5 when the death was powerful, not a ploy because no one watches anymore.

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Biography

Postby DaffyQDuck » Mon May 05, 2003 4:01 pm

TV Guide gives the Biography episode next Wed on Buffy a 4 out of 10. Says it's a thorough report, but is it time for an obit already? "But those characters aren't even gone yet; eulogizing them seems premature." Well, they could eulogize Tara!! It says they interview SMG & JW, among others...we can only hope AH & AB are in there. Anyone know when this was shot? How honest could SMG be?



Edited to add: TVG.com has SMG being interviewed Tues & Wed this week on Access Hollywood. & adds David B. to those on Biography.

It wasn't our world anymore, they made it theirs and they had fun - Willow

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Re: Angel

Postby sam7777 » Mon May 05, 2003 6:09 pm

Pilot Buzz is growing:

www.thefutoncritic.com/cg...d=20030505

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Monday, May 5, 2003

Pilot Buzz Grows as the Upfront Approach

By Brian Ford Sullivan



That's right boys and girls, we're just one agonizing week away from the networks' fall schedule announcements. That means starting Monday of next week you'll find out what's renewed, what's canceled and what's new come fall 2003. Last week the major networks began screening their various pilots in development and we've managed to assemble a "buzz" list based on comments from network executives, trade publications and the like. Keep in mind that a lot can change from now until Monday, but these are the names that are starting to emerge from the pack.

...

The WB (announces its fall schedule on Tuesday, May 13)



(Comedy) All but certain: "All About the Andersons," "Sweet Potato Queens"



(Comedy) Strong contenders: "Exit 9," "Kid Mayor," "Like Family"



(Comedy) Longshots: "Are We There Yet?," "Eddie's Father," "The Gong Show," "The Help," "Here Comes the Joneses," "Run of the House," "Sixteen to Life," "Trash"



(Drama) All but certain: "Tarzan and Jane"



(Drama) Strong contenders: "Fearless," "Immediate Family," "MacGyver," "One Tree Hill," "Untitled Gilmore Girls Project"




(Drama) Longshots: "Chasing Alice," "Family Curse," "Other People's Business"



Off the radar (all genres): "Small Talk" (no movement), "The Spaces" (no cast announced)
I've also heard that the GG spin off is a lock. If the WB picks up 3 new shows (they are strongly considering 6) to fill the 9pm slots on Sun, Tues and Wed; I don't see a slot on next season's schedule for Angel.

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