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Armageddon Number 5

Postby darkmagicwillow » Sat Dec 06, 2003 10:14 pm

I see that Willow keeps better count than I...



You make an interesting point about The Gift being the only finale in which the characters discuss the real and imminent possibility of death. It's only in The Gift and Graduation Day that it feels like the world might really be ending for everybody. The other endings, despite what we may be told about their consequences, lack that sensation of impending doom, which is what makes seasons 3 and 5 and the only good possibilities for a final season of BtVS. However, you also manage to capture that feeling here in the ending of your version of season 5 while still retaining your characteristic humor with the "Sapphic onslaught."



Despite (or perhaps because) of your worries, you've seemlessly intertwined the impact of physical action and the poignant and character revealing moments of Tara's bemusement at the weapons, Dawn's almost-sacrifice, and Ben's actual sacrifice to stop Glory. In the aftermath, perhaps because I'm always seeking for an understanding of matters uncomprehended, I liked your reinforcement of Willow and Tara's magic being strongest together. I still can't see how they went from that moment of joining at the end of The Gift to the beginning of Becoming. Ah well, no time for speculation now, though on a similar subject of incomprensible magicks, I enjoyed your little explanation of Riley's disappearance.



The quiet moment at Julia's grave was a lovely and appropos ending, gathering together the by now long and heavy strands of Lachesis' weaving to remind us of where and how we began this journey on Clotho's fresh-spun threads and how far we've come, yet without any unnecessarily hurried clipping of threads with the blades of Atropos' scissors. Thank you so much for this wonderful story, that started with such an intriguiging and surprising exploration of a question I'd always wondered about then grew into so much more. And many apologies for the lateness of this feedback.

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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby maudmac » Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:41 am

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Re: Epilogue

Postby behindhereyes » Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:03 pm

:clap :clap :clap :clap WOW... I'm not by any stretch of the imagination eloquent, so I'll say only this...



You made me feel it all.... so very deeply :bow .







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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby GayNow » Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:55 am

Mary,

I have finished reading this absolutely remarkable tale. I read On Second Thought a while ago and really enjoyed that story. I was very impressed with your take on canon events – you stayed true to the characters, gave us enough of the happenings that we knew from the show, and then let your imagination take over to completely manipulate those events and bend them to your will. Again, I was impressed.

And then I read this. You've outdone yourself! I was so engrossed -- to the point that I've been unable to write more for the next chapter of my own story because I needed to know what happened next in GS&A. And it was a need. The story would not leave my mind. Even now the story stays with me.

Again, you've captured the characters nicely. However, you do not let the characters sit -- stagnant in their own "Joss-ness". You've allowed the characters to grow, to become the people they could have been had the writers given them half a chance.

Willow: She's our brilliant, babbling redhead, that's for sure. But you’ve allowed her to be so much more. She is also fallible, without being ridiculous. Fallible, without being ridiculous? Huh? Let me 'splain. Willow has grown from a wonderful, babbling teenager who had low self-worth into a wonderful, babbling adult who has found her significance in the world -- as best friend to the world's protector, as surrogate sister to Dawn, and, most significantly, as lover and partner to Tara. She still has all of those characteristics that made us love her when we first met her in high school, but she has grown into herself. And now, while she realizes that she has some limitations -- particularly when she struggles in her want/need to take away all of Tara's pain -- she no longer sees those limitations as major faults. She knows she doesn't have to be perfect. She realizes that magick can't fix everything. She understands that some pain has to be felt. And her most important job is simply to be there, unconditionally -- to stay loyal to her friends, to keep her promise to Dawn, to love Tara. Wonderful.

Tara: Wow! You've written Tara so beautifully. One of the problems I had with the show was the "glossing over" of Tara's background. We had Family and The Body to learn about her life pre-Sunnydale. And that was it. So Willow's statements as she and Tara are dancing at the birthday party -- the "when I see where you come from, I love you even more" stuff -- are dead on and we all say a collective "Yes!" However, what do we really know? Her dad lied by saying "you're a demon and so was your mom," Donnie is a redneck jerk, and Beth is a bit off her nut. That's it. Nothing more is said. And we have the hospital when Joyce dies -- Tara has a bonding moment with Buffy when she tells of her own mother's death. That's it. You, on the other hand, have filled in all of those gaps. And you've done it so incredibly well. We really can see how remarkable Tara is because now we truly know about where she came from. We know about the people who "raised" her. Now we understand the depth of her strength. Now we can see the light that shines through Tara. It's no longer muted and overshadowed. It's a wonderful thing.

Dawn: I love what you did with Dawn. You kept just enough of the whiny brat, the kid sister who wouldn't leave Buffy alone. Yet you've allowed her to grow up, to see things with a more mature perspective. I always thought Dawn’s moment on the scaffolding just before Buffy said her piece and took a nosedive off the tower was a defining moment for the youngster. It was at that point, IMHO, that she did some growing up. It was at that point that she truly understood the meaning of sacrifice. And she was willing to sacrifice herself for the good of the people she loved. She didn’t whine at that moment. She didn’t say, “Buffy, what should I do?” She made a decision and was going to carry it out. You gave Dawn that moment earlier on. I think her internal struggle over just killing herself “now” rather than waiting for something to happen was brilliant! And allowing her to confide in Willow and Tara really shows her ability to trust and listen to reason. Again, that’s something we didn’t get to see on the show. Nice.

Buffy, Xander, Giles, Anya: Yeah, I’m lumping them all together…sue me. ;) As I read the story, I really saw these 4 as rather minor characters. Not insignificant…far from that. But just about everything came from Willow’s or Tara’s point-of-view. So, we could really only see all other players on the stage through the lovers’ eyes. And I really liked it that way. You’ve written the rest of the Scoobies true to form. I could hear them saying what you’ve written for them. So wonderfully done!

The Maclay Clan: OMG! The Maclays are human! Nathan isn’t pure evil. Julia wasn’t pure goodness. Donnie was more misunderstood and abused than Tara in many ways. Beth just doesn’t know what to make of anything – she just wants a home and love. Wow and wow! And I just love Beverly – former ball of energy or not. She rocks!

In addition to the wonderful characterizations you’ve given our fictional friends, you’ve strengthened the relationships between and among them. I think this is the first time I’ve seen the connection between Willow and Tara written so clearly, so lovingly, so purely. That is not to say that no one else has written that connection well. But I felt the connection in your story. It was so beautiful.

I don’t blame Dawn for falling in love with Tara. Hell, I don’t blame anyone for falling in love with Tara. But, ya know, I think Dawn may have had a little thing for Willow too…c’mon, how could she not? I really like how you built the relationship between Dawn and Willow and Tara – individually and as a couple. Even though Dawn and Buffy seem to have a more cohesive bond in this story than we would see on the show, she still needed someone who was NOT big sister to talk to. Willow and Tara were the obvious choices. She can clearly talk to these two women and know that she will get honest answers – she knows they love her and will do anything to protect her, but she also knows that they respect her. And that’s important to a teenager…sometimes “Big Sis” doesn’t get that, no matter how good her intentions.

I love that you don’t have Willow and Anya fighting all the time. That relationship always seemed rather forced to me on the show. I think you’ve struck a nice balance with Anya and her relationships with everyone. She’s still the blunt, ‘honest to a fault’ Anya that we know and love, but she has a better sense of humanity and we can see her struggles with it. We can see that she cares about saying and doing the right thing, she wants to learn. For me, Anya’s defining moment in the series was in The Body. Her “I don’t understand” speech kills me every time – THAT is what starts me crying in that episode. I’m glad you included a version of that here…and that Tara got to hear it…and that it wasn’t Willow who snapped at her for asking questions about “what happens next.”

I’ve gotta say, I ran the gambit on emotions in this story. You made me laugh until I cried, and cry until I laughed. You were able to slip in something uproariously funny right in the middle of a high angst moment without pulling me out of the story thinking “wtf??” So so so SO wonderfully written!

Now that my reply has become longer than one of my own updates, I’m going to close out so I can start reading ATGB. Thank you so much, Mary, for this wonderful story. When I grow up, I want to write just as well as you.

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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby Darth Pacula » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:41 am

G'day, Mary.

I just finished this story last night ( it took me a week to read the whole thing, and I had to sleep or I would have left feedback earlier ) and I have to say you're one hell of a writer. You perfectly realized the playful banter between the scoobies that made the show such fun to watch. I have to admit, at times I needed Willow's translation services as much as Xander did. Not only did you write the comedy so effectively, but you also managed to raise so many deep and meaningful issues as well. You actually made me think, which believe me is a painful prospect.

There's the whole nature of evil and the nature versus nurture aspect of its origin in respect to Donnie, who you portrayed excellently by the way. You made him more than a cardboard cutout villain by giving him depth and even making him a figure that the reader feels sorry for at times. That being said, I still want to slowly dismember him and feed him into a blender, but I suspect that's my own personal mental trauma as opposed to being any particular fault of his. It might just be that wussy beard of his.

Then you have the way love can be corrupted and twisted by lies and fear, until you end up with a family as twisted and sad as the Maclay clan, Tara excepted of course. The sins of the father shall come back to bite their children in the arse indeed. Though, I suppose it was Nathan's mother who started it all. We don't even know for sure that Nathan's father was ever actually a demon, and if that's the case, it kind of just makes everything that happened that much sadder.

Another one is the nature of reality and how much our memories have to do with it. The whole issue of the Key, and its Protectors, and their transformations into Dawn, Bev and co., and the cascade effect it had on so many lives is a pretty heavy concept and one they kind of brushed over in the show. By necessity in my opinion, given that we're talking about 45 minutes of television that has a least have a chance of holding the attention of your average Jjoe six-pack.

Then you have the whole nature of sacrifice, in more than one fashion. We have Dawn contemplating suicide to stop Glory, we have Bev and the other Protectors giving up their lives for the the key, and even Ben sacrificing himself to stop the deranged hell-bitch. Powerful stuff.

I have to say, it's almost like you have two different stories in one here. First you have the whole extended backlash from Family, and it's assorted revelations and drama, and then you have the whole Glory arc. They almost read as two separate stories to me, but hey, I'm not going to complain.

One thing I think I have to comment on was Nathan's hypocrisy. He made that little comment that “We don’t get a choice in who we love, Tara.” and yet he has the utter gall to criticize her being gay and with Willow, not once but twice. What a sad, pathetic tosser.

The way you handled Joyce's death was very sad. I personally felt that Buffy's discovery of Joyce at the end of 'I was made to love you' had greater dramatic impact ( for me anyway ) your decision to have her end up brain dead and on life support definitely gave the tragedy some very different direction. The whole issue of how Buffy and Dawn had to deal with the aftermath of that event was very evocative and touching. It even had an effect on this particular emotionally stunted lack wit.

Can I just say I loved Binky. I would have been tempted to give him a job as a storeman in the Magic Box. He'd work for room and board.

Now, I could go on and on like the bloody energizer bunny ( an unstoppable rabbit, that would just scare the crap out of Anya ) but I'd better stop here or I'll never manage it. This story was bloody fantastic to read, and so was a lot of the feedback. I actually found myself having conversations with my monitor, especially over my opinions on some of the plot holes from season 5.

Anyhoo, I might go read 'On Second Thought' now.

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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby mole » Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:53 pm

Hello Mary,

After several weeks of lurking on the board, I felt compelled to register just so I could tell you that: "I love you in languages that haven’t been written yet." is one of the most beautiful lines of dialogue I have ever read, either in ff or published work.

You've got a true gift for story-telling, character development, and heart-wrenching conversation.

Thanks very much for sharing these gifts with us. I'm looking forward to reading As Time Goes By.

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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby CrazyTaraWitch » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:39 pm

My goddess, this story is just fantastic...I didn't think i could love any other story as much as On Second Thought, even another story written by YOU, but then i read this...
Granted, at first the story seemed a little slow, at i was temporarily dissapointed, but was u had built the basis for your story, man was it ever increddible!!!!!!!!!

Just to give a list of a few of my fave parts, cause i'm weird like that...

*Later, as Tara fell asleep in her arms, Willow let herself go back in her mind to her first understanding of family. There was a mommy, and a daddy, and a little girl.
And now?
There are two lesbian witches, and one straight girl who fights vampires and demons, and a British man who trains her, and an ex-demon who’s over a thousand years old, and a mystical ball of energy parading around as a teenaged girl with a crush on my girlfriend, and a loyal if somewhat goofy straight boy.
She felt Tara move restlessly in her sleep, wrapping her arm more tightly around Willow’s waist. She looked down at the soft features, barely illuminated by moonlight, and pressed a gentle kiss on her forehead. Knowing that for tonight, at least, all was well within her family, she finally succumbed to her own exhaustion, and slipped off to dream of a girl who looked up at her and Tara and called them both "Mommy."*

*We all need to comfort, and be comforted. We need to feel the person we’re closest to in order to believe we’re still here. And Giles has no one. She lowered her head and brushed away the tears that had gathered so quickly in her eyes. *

*Buffy shook her head slowly. "What makes anybody think he has the right to beat a little girl?"
Willow could only sigh. "Whatever it is, I wish you could stake it and send it back to hell."*

*“You are just morally opposed to one-word answers, aren’t you?” Bev asked.
“Yes,” he replied, negating his reply.*

*And though they had all been prepared to stand vigil for hours and perhaps days, Joyce Summers, beloved daughter of Jack and Sharon McNamara, beloved mother of Buffy and Dawn Summers, seemed to know that she was being called elsewhere, and so she did not breathe and did not linger, but rather left as she had lived—quietly, with dignity and immense grace.*

"But she had a choice, Aunt Beverly. Maybe…maybe a demon, or anyone who’s just completely malevolent, doesn’t really have a choice. Maybe it’s so much a part of their nature that they’re just acting on instinct. But a human—a decent, average human—who chooses to do something wrong—maybe that’s worse."*

*The evening ended shortly after that. Hugs, more tears, condolences, promises…Words and gestures were offered, taken, acknowledged. And everyone was exquisitely aware that all of these words and gestures, while true and sacred in their own right, would not change reality. They would not make Joyce wake up.*

*“Ah, family," Beverly replied knowingly. "Can’t live with ’em, can’t institutionalize ’em against their will unless you have really powerful lawyers*

*****
anyway, i just wanted to through my non-existant hat into your exquisetly and wide srpead ring of fandom, as well as thanking u for writing and posting ur fabulous story!


thanks so much, AntigoneUnbound!!!!!!!!
"To days to come."
"All my love to long ago.


I hope, we'll have more happy ever after
I hope, we can all live more fearlessly...

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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby GayNow » Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:39 am

It's still fucking fabulous. Your writing never gets old.

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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby na71684 » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:36 pm

WOW. Thats all I can say. This fic was amazing!
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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby CrazyTaraWitch » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:39 am

i just re-read this story, and i think i loved it even more than the first time--if that's possible. here are just a few of my new fave quotes:
*"Well, if anybody deserves to breathe, it’s Tara, and that may well be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever said—which is saying way more than you could possibly imagine." Willow could feel herself blushing. My God, she must think I eat non-sequiteurs for breakfast.*
*“I think it was Mark Twain—or maybe e. e. cummings—who said that analyzing humor was like dissecting a frog: you can do it, but the frog tends to die in the process.”*
*"OK, so that last part is something of a stretch in the sense of being completely untrue.”*
*“The Scooby motto is, and I quote, ‘The few; the proud; the profoundly outnumbered."*
*"Giles kissed some COW ass," she answered, nodding approvingly at the Watcher.*
*"Etch-a-Sketch Moment! Etch-a-Sketch Moment!" Willow cried out, shaking her head frantically from side to side in an attempt to clear the image from her mind.*
...and many, many more.

i also loved ur disclaimers, especially "The people who own these characters are pinheads. I am not a pinhead. Ergo, I don’t own these characters."

I simply love how you portray these characters, and when u add to that such a compelling plot beautifully written, u get a fabulous story!!!

...ok, off to re-read As Time Goes By!
"To days to come."
"All my love to long ago.


I hope, we'll have more happy ever after
I hope, we can all live more fearlessly...

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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby Thianne » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:06 pm

Mary,
i'm afraid i'll have to thank Car again (she'll never let me forget...i'll be in debt with her for all eternity :lol). this story is bautiful as much as the previous one. i'm slowly but securely reading everything, so i'm sure i'll get to the third one, too. that said, i loved it.

i don't know how you manage to write so brilliantly. what i love most are your carachters. you make them more human that they look in the show. you make us see a part of them that we would have never suspected. like dawn. i've always hated her. she was so childish, so whiny and annoying. (probably reminded me too much of myself :lol) and here, she's a person again. furthermore, she has a raging crush on tara (completely understandable :-D)

and ben? i hated him too. he chose to be on glory's side in the end. but here....here he didn't. here he chose to be a man. and i loved it.

Aunt Bev.....sweetie, that character was fantastic. i loved not only the whole part where they discovered that she was a protector and viceversa, when she discovered that the scoobies fought demons on a daily basis; i also loved the whole dialogue between tara and tanya during the battle, when tanya thought that the other protector was hitting on Bev. man, that was just too funny! i almost fell off the chair laughing!

and the interaction between anya and tanya! that also must fall under that funny category! tanya that can't be shocked, and willow that loses her bet! :lol

and the whole ordeal with tara's family...poor tara. i mean....she's really strong. her strenght may, or may not lien in willow's presence, that doesn't matter. she's still strong.

and of course, as always, i loved this Giles' sense of humour *chuckles* priceless.

to make the story short, Mary, i loved it. i'll work my way to the next story soon, as soon as i find a little bit of time. you're really a great writer!
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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby Faithless_7 » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:48 am

i was just stollling through fanfic lane when i came across this story. This fic was great. The writting, imagery and humour were spot on....it makes me miss the show more. :sob

well i just thought i'd say a job well done. :pinky
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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby Renatecs » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:58 am

mary,this story was truly amazing. Loved all the Maclay family twists and your new take on the storyline. The idea of protectors was really great. You wrote everyone fantastic,their thoughts,fears and feelings and most of the time i felt i was watching the show instead of reading a story. I think the rest has already been said by the other kittens. Never stop writing!
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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby Renatecs » Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:24 am

mary,this story was truly amazing. Loved all the Maclay family twists and your new take on the storyline. The idea of protectors was really great. You wrote everyone fantastic,their thoughts,fears and feelings and most of the time i felt i was watching the show instead of reading a story. I think the rest has already been said by the other kittens. Never stop writing!
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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby Misanthropic_Ninja » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:28 am

I have to say, this is one of the best fics I've ever read.

Antigone, you have an amazing writing style... please keep writing, otherwise I'll start getting really bored at work :D

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Spike: We band of buggered.

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Tara: Okay. Once upon a time, there was, um... a kitty. She was very little, and she was all alone, and nobody wanted her.
Willow: This is a very upsetting story.
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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby willowtaralover » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:28 am

Oh my god, chapter 21 was just wonderful. I loved that Dawn told Willow about her feelings for Tara and asked Willow to help her make sense of them and that Willow did help and not reject Dawn, clearly putting her own previous jealousy to one side as she helped the teen.

Nice that Dawn isn't coming across like the royal pain in the butt as she was written on t.v. I gotta say this as a straight male, there have been times when I have really liked someone and wish I had a friend or sister like Willow to confide in and ask for help. heck I wish I DID have Willow as a best friend or sister to confide in, you written her inb a truly awsome way, even better than on telly.

Finally I loved the scene at the end where Tara asks Willow to just touch her and Willow tells her about how they'll live together and raise a family and have a beautiful garden and spoil their grandkids. I found it so touching and I'm pretty darn sure that that is something that all of us kittens want.

All I can say Mary, is you're writing is awesome and I hope my own online fics are as good as yours :wtkiss [/blockquote]
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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby willowtaralover » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:48 am

Oh my god, I love chapter 21 of this story. The way that Dawn confesses her love for Tara to Willow and Willow puts aside her earlier resentment and jealousy and helps the teen is beautifully written.

I gotta say here as a straight male, who loves Willow and Tara, that there have been times when I have liked someone and wish I could have had a best friend or sister like Willow to confide in. Heck I wish I DID have Willow as a best friend or sister to confide in. Our fave rdhead just rawks big time in this chapter.

Then later when she's alone with Tara and her lover asks for her just to touch her to bring her back again is so wonderfully done. I especially loved the part where Willow tells Tara of all the things they will do together, get a house, raise children, have a beautiful garden where they will raise herbs, spoil their grandkids.

Mary, all I can say is that I hope my fics are half as good as yours, but I guess I'm just gonna have to work twice as hard.

Keep up the good work
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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby willowtaralover » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:29 am

Another beautiful chapter, Willow and Tara's quietly intimate sexual moment in bed together, and Willow's reaction to how much she genuinely loves Tara to Buffy's own personal fears for Dawn and the knowledge that she is actually nervous about going up to Glory. This chapter (22) is nothing short of beautiful. I wish I could write this well :wtkiss
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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby willowtaralover » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:53 am

I've just finished Gods Served and Abanadoned and loved it so much. From the road trip they all take to Cold Springs to the trip up the reader that Tara's father isn't, learning her mother wasn't as perfect as she believed to the death of Joyce. This for me was probably one of teh most upsetting things that I have ever read especially as I lost my own mother to cancer just over ten years ago so this was so very poignant for me. Please write something new soon :wtkiss
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