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Re: Part 22

Postby SySnootles » Tue Apr 01, 2003 10:23 am

Mary,



After a rather horrible night at work, coming home and seeing the words "Lesbian Vortex" made me laugh so hard I forgot how bad of a night it was. Thank you for that.



Puff up there said exactly what happened to me. From laughter to tears in a few paragraphs. Outstanding!



The extent to which you've captured these wonderful characters just boggles the mind. I am very thankful for you and your writing skills, keeping this wonderful couple alive. Every time I read one of your fantastic updates, I'm watching a brand new episode in my head, so well done they are.

I can see how much you care about the people you are writing about. It makes the story that much more heartfelt to the reader. Just wonderful.



Thank you, again, for sharing your talent and love for these characters whom we all hold so dear.



Catie



Editted because as uplifting as the update was, most of my brain is still at work. Including the spelling lobe.

Edited by: SySnootles at: 4/1/03 8:24:51 am
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Re: Part 22

Postby Grimlock72 » Tue Apr 01, 2003 2:57 pm



Oh, I like how Willow described her definition of a 'familly', heh. The 'usual' familly doesn't guarantee happiness as we've seen with the MaClay's. Maybe the reverse goes as well ?



I can deal with Dawn as long as I just ignore how she was forced upon us at the beginning of season 5. Discussion about when to tell Dawnie she's not real... let's say I do understand Buffy's problem. I can emphatize more with Dawn in regards to her crush on Tara compared to her being not real.



I did notice that Buffy just casually mention knowing of Dawnie's crush on Tara. Lets hope she doesn't mention it like that to Dawn herself, she'll probably redefine the word 'blushing' :D .



Now is it just me or did Buffy come over mostly to have herself convinced of something she knew deep down already ? The fact that it's usually better to tell bad things to someone you love under controlled circumstances. Being not-real is fairly traumatic I dare say :)



Grimmy

--

She(Tara) knew that she was Willow too. If she knew that then why hadn't Willow herself? That wasn't fair. She was Willow. she should have known that first. -- Willow in _Sidestep Chronicle_ (part 80)

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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby Cindy Lou Who » Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:41 pm

Yea verily Mare-a-lee:



Put some ice (or is it heat?) on those inimitable loins wonch'a - OH!

After that nice update you could use some TLC donch'a know!



The reconnection? Oh my stars above...so immediate and passionate and affirming. And I liked the lil' scent game. Olfaction does trigger the most memories of all our senses afterall!:blush



And Tara's response to Buffy was reassuringly predictable. If she'd responded any other way in light of her recent experience...well let's just say hyprocrisy could never be a flattering color on dear Tara.:no



This entire piece was a comfortable and unforced "transition" from the pain of Tara's family to the everyday horror that is Sunnydale. I await actions and reactions...I know I'll laugh but I'll probably cry too. That's okay. In fact it's good...better.:



On a personal note: I was so glad you enjoyed the Parkerisms. Somehow I trusted you'd have a better one for me. (And make *NO* mistake - wealth would look perfectly darling on me!) I changed my sig to reflect my own writing difficulties. I was going to add another DP gem: "Maybe it is only I, but conditions are such these days, that if you use studiously correct grammar, people suspect you of homosexual tendencies." But I was afraid it might be taken the wrong way.:hmm ;) I was also concerned that Buffy might jump in and start babbling on about being "sexually suspect" and how there's nothing wrong with it and how DARE they cast judgments etc.:laugh



And I'm not sure how one "sneaks up" on inspiration. I'm about as stealthy as a cow in a Baccarat (sp.) crystal shop. Oh well...:rolleyes



Now off to read a bit more fic before Tuesday 'za and movie night (is there a season 7?:eek )



Your tonstant weader...um Constant Reader.~~~Suse

~Dorothy Parker (on her writing)~:



"I can't write five words but that I change seven."



"My verses, I cannot say poems...I was following in the exquisite footsteps of Miss Millay, unhappily in my own horrible sneakers."

Edited by: Cindy Lou Who at: 4/1/03 6:06:37 pm
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Re: Part 22

Postby TemperedCynic » Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:51 pm

Mary, your comedy is as light and joyful as your drama is deep and angsty. And your smut is...wow, words fail me and that does not happen often, I assure you.



"Lesbian Vortex" - The transition of millions of new lesbians into an unsuspecting world. What could be wrong with that, I ask the Board?



Buffy's intuition of pending doom is razor-sharp and immediate. Her family is in danger. She turns to Willow and Tara to make things right. This melds so well with the events from Season 5 to Season 6. I can easily visualize this conversation happening. Tara's painful experiences can be used to give good advice in a time of need. Buffy is right though - growing up can definitely suck ass. But it gets better. And it's so worth the struggle.



I'll be waiting.


More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly. Woody Allen (1935 - )

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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Tue Apr 01, 2003 11:06 pm

Kittens rock,

        Kittens roll;

                Kittens delight this lezbo’s soul.



Patches:
Hey, send me the badge and certificate, and I’ll pass along the yellow jersey awarded to the first poster after an update! You’re too kind, Patches. (But there’s no need to stop!)



Jixer: What incredibly kind words. I love your phrasing: "reconnecting (ahem)…" I applaud your semantic discretion, Jixer! You know, it seems like one of the sub-themes that people are most responding to in this story is that of Buffy being more supportive, less self-absorbed than she has been in the last two years. I haven’t liked her that much myself during that time, but it feels as though the show/script has taken her away from who she really is inclined to be; hence my writing of her in this story. You’re very astute in your observation re: Willow’s reaction to Buffy’s request: she knows just how dangerous all of this is, and she’s regularly faced with having to consider the death of someone she loves immensely. (Not even thinking about That One Episode, which I refuse to accept ever happened.) Yes, Buffy trusts Willow and Tara, and not just in their basic beneficence, but also their wisdom, their maturity, and their strength. And thank you, Jixer, for your words about the ending. The longer I’m a part of this board, the more I appreciate the skill and passion of its writers. It’s nice to feel I can add my own contribution to that. Thank you.



Washi: Hey, if crying equals wimpdom, then color me wimpified. I’m glad you found it moving. (Notice, again, how I’m not thanking you!) Yeah, it was fun to write the climax scene—I can’t imagine Willow ever going non-verbal, so the trick is to make her words fit the occasion. Nice "catch" on Buffy’s very particular choice to look after Dawn if necessary. I believe she trusts Anya and Xander’s intentions and loyalty, but not necessarily their maturity and wisdom; hence her selection. Hope class was good.



Grimaldi: Yeah, I thought it would be nice for Willow to get a look at someone else’s babbling! And Willow’s definition of family—I think a lot of us have re-examined our definitions of that particular word, you know? Thanks for reading and sending in the good thoughts, Grimaldi.



Puff: That was some of the highest praise I’ve received, Puff. I’m relieved to hear that there’s an emotional resonance to these characters, a sense that you can feel what they’re experiencing. These women—all of these characters--were given such depth on the show, at least initially. I’m so glad I found this board, to have access to them as they should be depicted. Thanks, Puff, for the very kind words.



Catie: Sorry to hear about the bad night at work, girl. Hope it was an exception and not the rule. Glad you liked the Lesbian Vortex image! It always comes to my mind when someone mentions "the homosexual agenda." ("OK, we’ll have scones and mimosas at 9’ish, and then infiltrate the schools at 10:30.") You’re absolutely right: I do love these characters, at least as they were originally conceived and delivered. The funny thing is, I didn’t start watching until last fall—I started catching the re-runs on FX. The next thing I remember, I was getting on line to find tapes of Season 6 because we don’t get UPN in my neck o’ the woods. (This season, as you might imagine, I haven’t bothered to do so.) Thanks for the good thoughts and the support, Catie. Hope work is looking better for you.



Grimmy: Yes, Willow has had cause to re-evaluate what "family" means to her, even before Tara’s arrival. After recent events, that’s even more the case. You know, Dawn’s complicated for me. I think MT does a nice job w/ comedy, and I like her in general. There have just been so many scenes where she’s being incredibly self-involved and whiny, even for a teenager (not to equate those three). You’re absolutely right about Buffy’s unconscious motivation for going over to Willow and Tara’s: she knew, at some level, that she couldn’t totally trust her "instincts" on this and so she went to the two people she knew would be both supportive and honest. Thanks, Grimmy, for following this story and sending in your thoughts.



Su—zee,

        You must excuse me/ If I amuse thee

                But here peruse, free of all judgment and censure,

                        While I get my TLC on.

                (Insert gleeful smile here.)




Ah, the little olfactory chain-yanking—who of us hasn’t done it?



In all seriousness, I was relieved to see the phrase "comfortable and unforced transition," Suse, b/c I was sweatin’ it a little bit. The story isn’t done (or so I tell myself) and yet how to get off of the farm and back to SD w/o everything seeming either ludicrous or anticlimactic? (And I’m going on record as saying I’m pro-climactic. (Not that I consider myself a pro at it or anything, and why don’t I just stop this alleged humor right here, OK?) I’m just glad it felt smooth to you and that you’re still interested in these folks and what happens next.



You know, I’d be glad to try out a little wealth myself, Suse. Thus far, nobody has needed me to help them with that, though. I totally get the hesitation re: the other DP selection—I think it’s a gas, but some people might not get it. And if Buffy jumped in, well, the entire board might deteriorate into a hair-pulling, name-calling, Birkenstock-flinging debacle. Thanks for writing, Suse—your feedback just rocks!



TemperedCynic: I just love your name, I have to say. Somehow, it felt like the girls were wanting to get with the lusties; of course, that may have been my projection, but as I was writing it, they seemed to enjoy it immensely. And I echo your question: What could be wrong w/ a Lesbian Vortex? If you ask me, a lot of people would be wasting far less time on make-up and uncomfortable clothing. You’re right, Buffy has a very keen sense that this Big Bad has something extra going on, and she’s feeling extra protective of Dawn right now. I see her here, though, as "assuming" her mother will be just fine—that’s the one danger or threat that she won’t let within a country mile of her awareness. Thanks, TC, for reading this story and taking the time to write.



More later,

Mary




AntigoneUnbound
 


Re: Part 22

Postby The Rose24 » Tue Apr 01, 2003 11:23 pm

Another magnificent update.



I am glad Willow and Tara are sort of returning to normal, and Buffy feels comfortable enough to Talk to Willow and Tara about very sensitive things. Excellent foreshadowing of things to come.

Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.


Tara: Willow, I got so lost.

Willow: I found you. I will always find you.


The Rose24
 


Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby Penrose Orleans » Wed Apr 02, 2003 12:14 am

Mary--

Well, a new term, a new jaunty beret for Nora (I'm wearing it right now), and a new part of this fic! My instincts tell me that this is going to all turn out alright for the Scoobies (though, like my "gaydar," my instincts are more often than not wishful thinking :p ); however, I don't think that anyone's out of the woods yet.



Really appreciated the contrast between this part and recent updates-- not Tara's family-centric, to balance out the recent episode, and emphasizing the love shared by W/T. It's good stuff.



More Mature Buffy (TM) is a Good Thing (TM). She cares about Dawn, she gives appropriate weight to ther professional responsibilities, she takes advice, and she puts everything into perspective. If we had seen this on the show, it would be a much better experience.



You really captured that "Aw, what a cute couple" phenomenon that characterizes Willow and Tara-- you know, that aura about them that just makes everything they do the most adorable thing ever. I like that you can write them like that, and I want to see it continue. (See, I get my claws out!)



There's so much more, but I don't know if I can handle the waking up tomorrow without going to sleep tonight... may your muse be fruitful and your women, well, fruitful too (and fruity!) Cheers, Nora

"Ya estoy curado, anestesiado, ya me he olvidado de tí...

Hoy me despido de tu ausencia- ya estoy en paz." -Manu Chao, 'La Despedida'

Penrose Orleans
 


Re: Part 22

Postby VampNo12 » Wed Apr 02, 2003 3:00 pm

Mary, I don't have much time... so I will be "brief" :) ! That being said however, I so needed to say how much this chapter touched me. W/T "reconnecting" was beautiful, and quite sensual (not to mention how palpable you made the depth of their love to me in that scene). In this regards I loved Willow thinking, ("She gives to me so easily. Does she know what that does to me? How she makes me more, somehow, every time I touch her?"). Really this captures their connection so well... truly how they "complete" each other.



As for Buffy's discussion with W/T... I too got emotional. Like other kittens I so appreciate your characterization of Buffy (reminding me that I actually admired the character at one time, which is the direct opposite of how I feel about Buffy now... wanting to slap "Miss self-righteous" :lol ). Here Buffy isn't being "Miss Lone Ranger". Or in other words, she's isn't "folding into herself", where she feels like she must take the burden solely on her shoulders. Instead she trusts her "family", and thus is willing to reach out to get another perspective (ie Buffy might be the "slayer", but she knows she's human... doesn't have/know all the answers, as well Buffy understanding she isn't being "weak" for simply asking for help).



Lastly, I too loved Willow's definition of "family", the foreshadowing of things to come, and I must say I got choked up over the last line, (... "and slipped off to a dream of a girl who looked up at her and Tara and called them both Mommy"). Can't wait to see what happens next!



By the way I so got I kick out of many of the lines... such as "Lesbian Vortex", "Mark it down in your Daily Planner, use a blue pen", Willow's "wonder" over Buffy's babbling (with her thinking, "cuz it's truly a incredible spectacle"), "Praise be to Venus and spare me the penis, Buffy- what in Sappho's name is it?", and so much more.



Vicki (who is now back to her "briefs" :) )

Edited by: VampNo12  at: 4/2/03 1:20:12 pm
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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby tommo » Wed Apr 02, 2003 3:41 pm

I can't believe I almost missed this update. Well, actually I can believe it, because you know, I almost did.



Anyway...



What I love most about your writing is the depth and intensity of the characterisation. You pull out the nuances of the way these people interact with one another and build slowly to a way of communication that's so very true. In the scene between Willow and Tara, their passion for one another was the most important thing. And I think it might have been easy to lose that, considering the gravity of the emotional strain over the last few days. But here you brought us back to the point of their relationship from where all good things emerge. I think it's really important that you had a love scene here, even if it was to underline the fact that these two women are so very deeply in love with one another, above and perhaps, beyond the events of their daily lives. And in that moment of sexual contact, I really felt like they communicated something important too; it was as though Tara was able to bring Willow back to the one thing that she couldn't get from anyone else, anywhere else. I love that specialness, and you have a way of bringing it out so very well in what you write.



The scene with Buffy was intense also, but in a different way. I love stories that remind me why I watched the show in the first place. Willow's musings on the Scooby Gang were so accurate here, because in the end, Buffy's just a girl. It reminded me of that line in The Gift where Buffy saves that guy in the alleyway and he says "But you're just a girl." In this scene, Buffy was returned to her pivotal role in the story, not as a Slayer, but as a sister and daughter. If anything, this is her weakness. Her inherent humanity and capacity to love and care so much about Dawn and, by that account, her mother too showed me once more that underneath the outer facade of a Slayer is "just a girl". I love that contrast, however complex and contradictory it might be. Buffy was so vulnerable here, at odds with her strength in battle and her ability to reckon with the worst kind of demon. I love how you show me here that in essence, Buffy is this mixture of emotions that tug at her and reduce her to that human self. It's a very raw scene, especially as she entrusts Dawn to Willow and Tara. I'm wondering if somehow, Buffy is facing her own mortality and short life experience as a Slayer. It's almost like foreshadowing, and in the way that it's a harbinger of doom, it's also very uplifting that she is able to have that kind of awareness.



As always, I love this fic. And as always, I'm looking forward to reading more. This is becoming a very special story to me, and I'm sure I'll be thinking about some of the issues it brings me in future days. Thank you so very much. This fic just goes from strength to strength, and that in itself is a wonderful thing to see. :)



Asda uniforms. Clubbing. Unmixy things.

tommo
 


Re: Part 22

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Thu Apr 03, 2003 9:26 am

New Feedback, New Replies—Same Great Kittens!



Rose:
So glad you liked the reconnection. It felt important to have our girls share some quality down time (as in, lying down). A lot of people seem to enjoy seeing Buffy as a more mature, less self-involved person. Thanks for keeping up with this story, Rose, and sending in the good thoughts.



Nora, Most Fey/In Her Jaunty Beret: So the most pressing question, Nora, is obviously—what color is the beret? Are we talking raspberry, of the Prince variety? Do tell, Bitch for the Ages.



Yeah, my Gaydar is often wishful thinking, too. (Sometimes I think there’s this unspoken hope among Kittens: if we all wish hard enough, Amber will phone one of us up and say, "Wow—I sure could do w/ some women-lovin’ right about now!")



It felt like the story was shifting back to SD—not b/c the Maclay saga is all neatly wrapped up, but b/c life does go on (much like Celine Dion’s love, but that’s another, less appealing fact) and thus there were Key/Big Bad issues to face.



It seems like a lot of people are responding to this depiction of Buffy—less self-absorbed, more able to keep perspective and to act on that perspective. This writing is definitely an extension of my own frustration w/ her character over the last two years, Nora ™.



I’m surprised that you saw an element of "Aw, what a nice couple!" in this update,

Bitch ™, b/c I was actually shooting for "God, what heinous, loathsome misanthropes!" Clearly, I need to polish my style. Joking aside (or at least slightly upstage), I know you don’t always go for the sweetness and light depictions. Lemme know if their characterizations are losing their bite, OK?



So far, Clittoria ™ has been fairly reliable. Having said that, of course, I now doom myself to utter blankness from this point forward.



Hope the new term is looking good to you, Nora, and as always, thanks for your supportive and infinitely enjoyable words. Ho’pefully yours, Mary (Free to the Public Domain).



Vicki, Queen of Brevity and Character Analysis! How’s school treating you? Feeling overwhelmed yet?



Glad you liked the reconnection scene, Vicki. It was, um…invigorating to write. It also felt incredibly important, for many of the reasons that Ruth mentioned. I’ve been struck by the number of people commenting specifically on the depiction of Buffy in this story. I think it really confirms how far the show has moved from what we all first fell in love with, even before W/T sealed the deal. I’m not even a professional writer, and I can apparently do a workable job of presenting a Buffy that people like. You’d think someone making money out the ying-yang could manage to pull it off. Yes, Willow’s definition of "family" is something that I suspect a lot of us can relate to, and don’t let the last line choke you up, Vicki. Do what I do: simply pretend that the events of the last 5 minutes of "Seeing Red," and all subsequent shows, never happened. That’s right—I just create my own universe and live there. Works like a charm!



Thanks for the support and good thoughts, Vicki, as always. Hope school hasn’t totally kicked your ass just yet.



Ruth: You know, milk does a body good, as does seeing your name on this thread. Your feedback is just consistently helpful and encouraging to me.



I always breathe a huge sigh of relief when you or another writer of like caliber says that my characterizations are working, b/c for me, everything emerges from that facet of the story. I’m far more likely to get invested in interesting people doing mundane things than the converse. It feels like all of these people were initially given such shading and complexity, only to be steadily reduced to one-dimensionality over the past two years.



The love scene felt very important here, and I’m glad it rang true and necessary to you. As you mentioned in your last response, touch, in and of itself, is incredibly important. Now that they’re safe and back in their real home, it felt crucial to have them add a clearly sexual underpinning to that touch, b/c their sexual connection is so singular.



As I’ve mentioned above, I’m just amazed at how many people respond to this Buffy, and her hearkening back to the original character we loved. When did she become so Lone Ranger-ish and self-absorbed? And you’re right—she does have a sense of her own mortality here. I think she’s increasingly aware of just how many times she’s cheated death. If she’s developing cognitively at all, she has to be—actively acknowledging our own finiteness is a predictable feature of maturity. I very purposefully chose to have her seek out Willow and Tara as potential emotional guardians for Dawn, versus Giles or certainly Xander and Anya. I see her here as being a loving friend but also discriminating: she knows that as fiercely loyal as Xander is, he and Anya would not be prudent selections for this task. She thinks about this, and she acts on it.



Thank you, Ruth, for your incredibly kind words. Having read and appreciated your own stories, your praise means a great deal indeed. (Having said that, of course, please feel free to add constructive criticism when you need to—don’t wanna back you into a corner of obligatory praise!)



More later,

Mary




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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby tommo » Thu Apr 03, 2003 10:01 am

Heh, honestly Mary, if there was criticism to be found, you just know that I'd be the one dealing it out. :lol



Incidentally, I wonder if you could email me, there are a couple of things I'd really like to chat with you about if possible. It's tommo@kittenboard.com Cheers. :)



Asda uniforms. Clubbing. Unmixy things.

Edited by: tommo at: 4/3/03 3:46:57 pm
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Re: Part 22

Postby Cindy Lou Who » Sat Apr 05, 2003 8:18 pm

***Pre-emptive caveat***


This is not a bump for bump's sake! Cross my heart!:love




Buffy *IS* gonna tell Dawn - right? Is Dawn going to run to Tara for platonic consolation and explanation once she knows her true nature? What complications or emotional turmoil for Dawn could this create? But despite this if I were Dawn I would run to her. Tara's the only one I ever would have vouched-safe with my feelings and fears truth be told. Your writing confirms that for me oh lil' chick-a-dee.



And as to *your* feedback on feedback:



Just to remind you that your humor should not be considered "alleged." It is proven beyond the shadow of all doubt...guilty as charged of incomparable wit in the first degree.
Quote:
The story isn't done (or so I tell myself) and yet how to get off of the farm and back to SD w/o everything seeming either ludicrous or anticlimactic? (And I'm going on record as saying I'm pro-climactic.
And evidence in your writings of being "pro-climactic" makes your affidavit unnecessary but the court thanks you for your appearance here today.:yawn :sleep ***hmmph*** All rise! Court adjourned!:smash



As to your seemingly effortless (and very natural) transistion - Well I ask you with a song in my heart:



How can you keep 'em down on the farm

Once they've seen Par-ee?

Or Sunny-D.?

Or even Chattanooga Tennessee?

(This last is just fun to say...you once mentioned how you like that sort of thing.)



I know you hear it all the time...but I can't wait for more. I guess I can if I have to. I will...I will...I will. What time is it? Is that a.m or p.m.? And that would be Aprrrilll s...:hmm



*Toddles off to brew some tea whilst turning on the wireless for news of the day*



~Suse

~Dorothy Parker (on her writing)~:



"I can't write five words but that I change seven."



"My verses, I cannot say poems...I was following in the exquisite footsteps of Miss Millay, unhappily in my own horrible sneakers."

Cindy Lou Who
 


Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby stereo33 » Sun Apr 06, 2003 11:35 am

Brilliant updates again Mary. You caught me off-guard at first & I thought we were heading for more trouble with the appearance of Cathy, however, I was glad to see that wasn't the case, although I'm sure Willow was still ready to do whatever was necessary if she started something.



Willow's talk with Dawn was lovely, & a side of Willow I really like to see, and although I did feel bad for Dawn it seemed that Willow was extremely good at saying the right things with absolute minimum babble, & let's face it who in their right mind wouldn't have a huge crush on Tara? I think it will be very interesting now to see how Dawn handles finding out about the whole key thing.



I also loved the W/T moment when they were finally alone, I was wondering how that was going to play out given the kind of day they had just experienced, however, as always I think you got it just right.



It was also very touching with Buffy asking W/T to look after Dawn, as well as Willow's thoughts on the whole family set-up, I love that :) . I'm still enjoying your story very much and eagerly await your next updates.



Thanks

Karen



stereo33
 


Re: Responses to Feedback, Part 21

Postby miss calendar » Mon Apr 07, 2003 1:50 pm

Hi Mary,

My viola, while not yet reigning victorious with valiant virtuosity, thanks you for your supportive words and will ever strive to do so! Your words made me smile – aside from adorable alliteration they were a welcome contrast from the viola jokes which abound in the classical music profession. (Don’t ask….) And while I would not claim to have mastered the viola, over many years of playing I have become very skilled at the positioning of my fingers……..



So I loved your last two updates which both left me feeling warm and squiggly. Though maybe not the same kind of squiggly as Dawn. But Willow did imply there’s all kinds of squiggly and it’s such a great word I just had to use it.



That was a great scene, I’m glad that neither you nor Willow dismissed Dawn’s feelings as ‘just a crush’ but acknowledged their painful depth and intensity. I was intrigued by Willow’s thought, ‘I do technology, Tara does emotion.’ Seems as if , at least in her mind, there has already begun that kind of emotional splitting off /sharing out of identity that happens so often in couples. Because she recognises Tara is so good with people and has the gift of skillful compassion it seems that Willow has decided not to ‘compete’ in that area, forgetting that long before Tara came along she spent years being a supportive, compassionate friend to Xander and Buffy.



It was great seeing her reclaim this part of herself - and how she was able to be there for both Dawn and Tara in exactly the ways they most needed. I was so pleased that Willow was able to just be there with Tara and her pain without trying to fix it or skip it. It also felt important that she was able to hold on to a positive picture of Julia when Tara confessed that she felt like she didn’t even know her mother any more. It’s understandable that Tara would feel this way but as Willow points out,



"She’s still your mother. She’s still the woman who told you how wonderful you were, who sewed such wonderful dresses for you and braided your hair and taught you magic. She doesn’t have to be perfect for those things to be true."



Before Julia died Tara told her that, ‘Every good thing I have mama, I owe to you.’ Whatever Julia’s ‘failings’ this remains true – without her fierce love Tara would have turned out a very different person.



I loved the scene where Willow brings Tara back to herself through simple touch. The language of touch must be the oldest, most universal in the world, encompassing the sensual and sexual but also so much more. Touch is capable of communicating connection on a primal, profound and spiritual level that goes beyond words and it was wonderful to see Willow and Tara demonstrating this. It reminded me of a favourite line of yours which has stayed in my mind, ‘I love you in languages that haven’t been written yet.’ Despite my tendency to get carried away with feedback, nonverbal communication is very important to me, particularly touch, so this scene felt very special.



( I always felt that one reason why Amber and Aly’s portrayal of Willow and Tara’s relationship was so convincing was because of the range of looks and touches they continually gave each other even when they weren’t the focus of a scene. There always seemed to be an unspoken conversation going on between them alongside any words they might say.)



Of course I also enjoyed seeing Willow making love to Tara while promising the dream of a future growing old together. And the scene with Buffy was incredibly moving. It made sense that Buffy would see parallels between Tara’s experience and the secret they are keeping from Dawn about her being the Key and I liked the way Tara cut straight to the heart of the matter yet still left it to Buffy to make her own decision. It was great seeing Buffy face her mortality and being responsible by making plans for Dawn’s future support should she no longer be there. And it was typical that Tara was the one to touch on the unspoken, almost unthinkable fear that maybe Buffy was afraid there was something seriously wrong with Joyce. I loved that Buffy not only acknowledged Willow and Tara as her family but in asking them to promise to look after Dawn she showed how much she trusts and respects them.



Actually it occurred to me that although the focus of the story may be Tara, the question, ‘Who’s your family?’ is just as much an issue for other members of both the Maclay and Scooby families. As Beth once said, ‘We all have to figure out where we belong, don’t we?’ The search for a father figure is one example. Giles seems to have taken on this role for most the Scoobies not just Buffy, and there were a couple of earlier scenes where he was hugging Tara which suggested he was offering the same to her. Poor Beth is hoping Nathan will be the father she never had while Donnie can’t even let himself hope for such a thing.(and I wonder if Nathan, Quinn or Beverly were ever able to.)



In fact there are many issues shared by various members of these two ‘families’. Loss, abandonment, emotionally absent or abusive parents, alcoholism, parents having affairs, being brought up by a single parent, secrets being kept from other family members, lies presented as truth, having memories manipulated are only a few that spring to mind. Tara now has to build a new life story in the light of Nathan’s revelations but so does Beth and all the Scoobies will have to do this in the light of the dying monk’s revelation about the Key.



Anyway, that’s enough rambling for today. Looking forward to the next update, thanks for this wonderful story.



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' What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday,
and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow :
our life is the creation of our mind. ' from The Dhammapada

Edited by: miss calendar at: 4/7/03 1:52:52 pm
miss calendar
 


Re: Part 22

Postby Tulipp » Tue Apr 08, 2003 6:47 am

Hi Mary. My feedback is not quite caught up to the most recent chapter; I just read the parts about karaoke and going to the motel and non-sexual bring-me-home touching and Willow doing emotion instead of technology, and Buffy coming to talk about whether she should talk to Dawn about being gay, I mean, being the key. :)



You asked in a previous update about the change of tone in the karaoke scene, and I wanted to say I thought it felt really real, to have some levity, some quick repartee, some karaoke and sentimentality after the tough emotions of the last several chapters. Everyone needed an emotional rest from dealing with upheaval and distress, and I thought that taking us readers from FAMILY to "Family" was an inspired way to make that happen.



The scene between Dawn and Willow, as others have commented on, was wonderful, as well, and, in case I didn't get this across earlier, I so appreciate the subtle way you deal with this sense of huge changes in Dawn's life: maybe being gay, definitely being the Key, aware of only some of what's involved in this and unaware of the way her life could open up as a result.



This continues to be a lovely and always new story; as you say, even a trip to get juice becomes dramatic here.



Well done, and I'm looking forward to reading more!

"Just call me the computer whisperer."-- Willow

Tulipp
 


FYI

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Wed Apr 09, 2003 2:01 pm

Hey Kittens: Just a quick note to apologize for the delay in posting an update. A work crisis has pretty much occupied most of my time in the past 4 days.



I'll update this story tomorrow (Thursday), as well as respond to feedback from the lovely souls who have commented since my last reply.



As ever, I appreciate your interest in this story and your encouragement in my continuation.



Purringly yours,

Mary

AntigoneUnbound
 


Re: Part 22

Postby molsongrrrl » Wed Apr 09, 2003 2:11 pm

though i am eagerly awaiting an update ... work emergencies certainly come first ... i guess ...



glad to see the story will continue soon! :bigwave

A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants

molsongrrrl
 


Final Replies, Then Update

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:13 pm

Hidey ho, Kittens! Some final replies and then it’s update time! So go tell your mommies and daddies that you can’t eat dinner right now because you have to read about your two favorite lesbians!



Ruth:
I just crack up at your turns of phrase. I submit myself to your inspection, trusting in both your beneficence and wisdom!



Suse: OK, girl, consider me hopelessly devoted: you used the word "vouchsafed." My fingers tremble on the keyboard even as I type the word. I think I need a moment…OK, I’m back. Yes, Tara is the definitely the person Dawn would logically turn to, for all sorts of reasons. I’ll be interested to see what you think of where I take this aspect in this update. "Pro-climactic" indeed—who wouldn’t support that platform? Hell, I’d campaign day and night, if need be, to get that resolution passed. So you enjoy such things as cadence as well? I still get a kick out of an old Dr. Seusse (sp?) book that included the line, "My father can read big words too, like ‘Constantinople’ and ‘Timbuktu.’" My head just bobs along joyfully as I recite it to myself and my fellow bus passengers edge slowly away from me. You rock in infinitely delightful ways, Suse!



Karen: You know, a lot of people really enjoyed reading this particular side of Willow, and a lot of folks also seem to respond to this depiction of Buffy. I think it’s because we’ve all missed the humanness of those characters in the last year. We know that they can kick demon ass; can be they be good and gentle human beings? I liked your question: who wouldn’t have a crush on Tara? Ruth made a great observation recently about Dawn serving as a kind of "Everyman" in that practically all of us have the big ol’ flaming hots for that woman. (Ruth said it with considerably more sophistication than that.) Thanks for the kind words, Karen!



Miss Calendar: Ah, my illustrious feedback queen…Truly, you redefine the genre. But I simply have to ask: Viola jokes? What in heaven’s name might those be? Personally, I always get a huge kick out of people writing "viola" when they mean "voila." We typically don’t use the latter unless we’re wanting to emphasize what’s about to come, so when I read something like, "You’re wondering what I have beneath my jacket? [Dramatic pause.] Viola!" I almost invariably chortle with joy. It just paints such a truly delightful picture, doesn’t it? And as for the skillful positioning of your fingers…How best to commend such a skill? Since I don’t really use emoticons, please envision me genuflecting in your general direction.



As ever, you make very compelling observations. Yes, Willow has already begun to split off their respective "tasks" or skills. As you noted, though, Willow was a remarkably strong and able support source before Tara arrived.



It felt important to have Willow maintain a positive image of Julia, even while allowing Tara to have whatever reactions she might have. I think Willow has such a vastly different experience from Tara with regard to mothers. Willow’s has been consistently absent, while Tara’s was so incredibly present for her entire life, and then abruptly absent, through no choice of her own. So I sort of see Willow as just a tiny bit protective of Tara’s relationship w/ her mother. She doesn’t want Tara to lose sight of all the good parts. You’re right—Tara would have emerged an incredibly different person w/o benefit of Julia’s deep love. I’m also impressed at your memory for certain phrases in this story. You really grasp a lot of nuances.



I loved your comment about the impact of touch, and your description is so apt: "primal, profound, and spiritual." You also put into words why A/A’s depictions were so real and powerful: they were always in communion of some kind, even when they weren’t the focus of the scene. I’m trying to remember if it was you or maybe Sela who mentioned the scene in "The Body" when Willow mouths the words "I love you" to Tara. I hadn’t noticed that before, and now it’s one of my favorite moments. Yes, they always conveyed the depth of their connection, through 101 different glances and facial expressions.



You get the Kewpie Doll (to quote Spike): the theme is most definitely "Who’s Your Family?" There are so many parallels b/w the two groups, yet (at least at this point in time) the Scooby gang usually navigates their problems with a little more honesty and generosity of spirit than the Maclays.



I really hope you know how much I appreciate your feedback and your thoughtfulness. Whenever I see your name on this thread, I just smile in anticipation of a truly intelligent read. May your viola present—voila!—a veritable vista of various victories, void of Velveeta. (OK, that last part was a stretch.)



Tulipp: How’s the paper grading coming along? Hope you’re seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, and may that light not be a product of a paranoid delusion. I loved your phrase: "…Dawn being gay, I mean, Dawn being the Key." Crack me up, indeed…I’m relieved to hear from someone like you (and, indeed, you specifically!) that the change of tone was workable and effective. It felt right as I created it, but confirmation from a knowledgeable source is always helpful. You know, a lot of folks enjoyed the Willow/Dawn scene, b/c it recalled a "kinder, gentler" Willow who could also certainly understand how someone would fall for Tara. Thanks for taking the time to catch up w/ this and send in the good thoughts, Tulipp.



Hey Molsongrrrl! Never fear, the update is here. (Respectfully submitted, a dedicated queer.)



Thanks,

Mary




AntigoneUnbound
 


Part 23

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:39 pm

Gods Served and Abandoned

Disclaimers:
If I owned these women, I’d throw a big Kitten bash and invite you all to enjoy their many splendors. Alas, I don’t, so I can’t.

Spoilers:
Up to season 5. I’ve played slightly with the timing of a certain Big Bad’s appearance, with some implications for Dawn’s entrance.

Rating:
R for now; if it changes, I’ll give heads-up.

Distribution:
Sure, with acknowledgement.

Feedback:
Even more sure! Bring it on!

I include a reference here to Amber’s favorite movie, which is also my favorite movie, and I think that just has to mean something about the connection between us, doesn’t it? Well, doesn’t it? Hmm…


*****
Part 23
*****


"So how should we spend this lovely Sunday evening?" Willow asked, looking up from her organic chemistry text. She wasn’t sure whether she was irritated or secretly reassured that academic obligations rolled on heedless of the epic battle against evil. She took at least some dim measure of comfort from the fact that algorithms would be waiting for her whether she acquitted herself against a T’Darek demon the night before or not.

Tara gave a long, slow stretch, yawning as she relieved the kinks in her muscles. "Maybe I’m getting old in my young age, but I sorta feel like staying in and watching a movie; something low-risk like that."

"Me too," Willow concurred, leaving her chair to sit behind Tara on the bed. Rubbing her hands together briskly to make sure they were warm, she began to massage Tara’s neck gently. "We’ve had enough adventure lately."

"Oh, goddess, that feels good," Tara groaned, as small goose-bumps rose on her skin. "Have you noticed, though, that adventure never comes in measured doses? I mean, it’s not like passing on seconds of mashed potatoes: ‘That’s enough for me, thanks.’" Willow just smiled and leaned forward to press her lips against Tara’s soft shoulder.

"We could see what’s on TV," she suggested, nuzzling the warm flesh.

"Sunday…Sunday…" Tara mused. "Well, I like ‘Alias.’ Jennifer Garner’s a hottie, although I wish she’d eat a sandwich or five."

"Isn’t there some fantasy-type show about a demon-hunter or a vampire or something like that? You know, all dark atmosphere and angst and total neurotic projection?" Willow furrowed her brow, trying to place the show.

"Oh yeah," Tara nodded. "I saw it once or twice. From what I could tell, it’s by some melodramatic bone-head who apparently went to the ‘Kill Anyone Who Seems Good or Happy’ school of writing."

"Forget that," Willow grumbled. "What bullshit." Resting her cheek against Tara’s back, she asked softly, "How you doing, Baby? Things settling down at all?" She had hesitated to broach the subject; on the other hand, she didn’t want Tara to think that Willow herself was trying to avoid it. If Tara didn’t want to talk about it, Willow trusted that she would let her know that.

Tara shifted until she was sitting sideways in Willow’s arms, and leaned into the warmth of those arms. "Oh, Sweetie…" She sighed, and frowned as she seemed to gather her thoughts. "There’s a part of me that still can’t believe everything that happened. I mean, my mother and my uncle? Or the man that I always called my uncle? And they’re both dead, Willow. I can’t talk to either of them." Willow’s throat tightened as she watched a tear spill silently down Tara’s cheek. "Even after Mom died, I still felt her near me. It still felt as if she were close to me, somehow. But since Friday—I don’t feel her, Willow. And it’s like she died all over again."

Willow pulled her close, wishing yet again that she could say something that would make everything right.
I can’t use magic. I can’t solve it like some complex scientific equation. I can’t do anything. The impotence was excruciating.

"And I can’t help wondering how everybody’s doing back in Cold Springs; even Donnie," Tara continued. Willow bit her tongue to keep from protesting that Donnie could just damn well take care of himself. "I know he’s a malicious prick," Tara added, as if reading Willow’s mind, "but there’s a part of me that feels like he was hurt just as badly as I was in some ways."

Willow made herself speak calmly. "But Tara, you never turned your hurt against someone else. You never tried to make yourself feel powerful by abusing another person."

"Maybe that’s just because there wasn’t anybody younger or less powerful than me," Tara mused sadly, playing with the buttons on Willow’s shirt. "Maybe if there had been someone around who I[ i]could[/i] have picked on, I would have."

"I don’t believe that for one damn second. Baby, I don’t know why you went down one path and Donnie went down another, but I don’t think it’s about birth order or a shortage of targets. God, Tara, I can feel the kindness in you; sometimes it’s so strong that it almost aches. It doesn’t mean you’re perfect or you never feel like being angry or selfish or just plain grouchy. It does mean you’re likely to choose kindness over cruelty. I know it, Tara; I know it down to my bones."

She felt Tara smiling against her chest. "And such fine bones they are," she murmured, drying her eyes. Pulling back slightly, she shook her head wonderingly. "And Beth is my half-sister. Oh my goddess…"

"Gotta say, I don’t see the resemblance," Willow muttered, picturing the pious sycophant who had apparently tried to take Tara’s place in the Maclay household.

"That may be the nicest thing you’ve ever said to me, Sweetie," Tara replied with a small grin. "It’s just one more thing that makes me shake my head and wonder if this all really happened."

Willow ran her fingertips over Tara’s cheeks and down to her jaw-line. "Baby, do you believe it? All of it?"

Tara looked out the window as if watching the events of the past few days unfold against the backdrop of the trees. Finally, she turned back to Willow. "Yeah…Yeah, Sweetie, I think I do."

Willow gathered Tara back to her fiercely. Kissing her soft hair, she murmured, "I just wish you could talk to your mom, or Quinn, or even your grandmother—ask her if the demon part is even true."

"I know," Tara replied, her voice muffled against Willow. "I keep thinking, ‘What if the demon legacy is just a family myth? What if the whole reason behind Dad’s behavior was never even true?’ God, Willow—so much of what he did was a reaction to thinking he had demon in him, and that he was passing it along to his kids."

Willow tilted her head slightly. "What about your Aunt Beverly? She’d have to know something, wouldn’t she?"

Tara edged back just a bit, enough to look Willow in the eye. "I hadn’t even thought about her," she replied slowly, a dawning curiosity in her voice. "She and Dad had different fathers, but she’d still know at least something about him, not to mention her own mother."

"So maybe we give her a call," Willow suggested, energized by the thought of being able to take some kind of action.

"Let me think about it," Tara hedged, her voice cautious but intrigued.

"OK; that’s a good idea. No need for speed," Willow demurred, as much to slow herself down as to agree with Tara. They sat in silence for a few minutes, each lost in her own world of possibilities and implications. Finally, Tara stretched back out on the bed, holding out a hand in invitation. Willow happily snuggled down into warmth and the scent of lavender.

"Speaking of family dramas, I wonder if Buffy’s talked to Dawn yet," Tara murmured, tracing her fingertips over Willow’s back.

"Oh God, poor Dawnie. I can’t even imagine how she’ll feel when she finds out. As if she doesn’t have enough angst in her life right now," Willow added, remembering their conversation at the hotel.

"What angst? What are you talking about?" Tara leaned back and looked quizzically at Willow.

"Oh, you know," Willow back-pedaled quickly. "Just the usual teenage sturm und drang. I wouldn’t go back to that age for all the cunnilingus on Lesbos." Catching Tara’s skeptical gaze, she added, "Because if I were a teenager, the cunnilingus might be illegal and I’m so rarely naughty anyway that I wouldn’t be able to enjoy it, what with the threat of legal action hovering over my head and all."

"Sweetie, listening to you talk is like taking the longest, most scenic route through the amusement park." Tara laughed softly, a rippling sound that always delighted Willow. She often found herself wanting to make Tara laugh, to make up for all those years when laughter had been such a rare commodity in her beloved’s life.

Easing back into Tara’s warmth, one arm flung possessively over the curve of her hips, Willow felt fatigue begin to wash over her mind like unhurried waves. Feeling safe and eminently content, she gave herself over completely to the lassitude of the moment and dropped off to sleep.

*****

Their very enjoyable nap was cut short by a sharp banging on the door. Willow started, ripped unceremoniously out of a dream in which Tara fed her plump strawberries dipped in chocolate while gesturing carelessly at the ponies that grazed nearby. "All they want to do is watch," Tara assured her.

While Willow tended to snap more or less quickly to wakefulness, Tara was of the "I’ll get there when I’m there" variety, which meant that she was now blinking slowly as if unwilling to accept this new state of consciousness. Her mumbled "Who’s there?" came out as "Whuzr?"

"It’s me," came the impatient reply. Willow and Tara looked at each other, realization edging into their eyes. "Dawn," Willow whispered unnecessarily.

"Coming, Sweetie," Tara answered quickly, moving to the door while smoothing her hair. She opened the door to a red-faced teenager who now knew that she was ancient.

Dawn moved into the room, standing between them with her arms crossed. Her expression, Willow thought, was both pleading and hostile. And welcome to the reality that is Dawn.

"Did you know?" she asked without preamble. "That I’m the Key?"

"Dawnie, please—can we get you something to drink? Do you want to sit down? We can—"

"Yes, Sweetie. We knew it." Tara’s voice was soft but unapologetic. "Buffy told us last week, right after she found out. She’s been trying to decide how to tell you since then."

"And you didn’t say anything? You knew and you didn’t tell me?" Dawn asked accusingly.

"Dawn, it wasn’t our place," Willow argued, even as she realized that if the situation were reversed, she too would probably feel betrayed to discover that everyone had known and kept the secret from her.

"Oh, right," came the bitter retort. "It wasn’t your place, and you didn’t want to get involved."

"That’s not true," Tara replied quickly. "We are involved, Dawn; we’ll always be involved in your life. But Buffy’s your sister; she had to be the one to decide—"

"Buffy’s not my sister," Dawn hissed, biting out each word. "Buffy’s nothing. She’s just some security guard who has to watch out for me."

Willow felt anger surge through her. She loved Dawn, certainly, but she also had a fierce protectiveness toward her best friend. "You don’t know how much she’s agonized over this, Dawnie. She loves you. You are her sister, whether you believe it or not."

"Don’t call me Dawnie." The voice was barely a whisper. "That person doesn’t even exist. I don’t have a name. I’m just a thing."

Willow saw that both she and Tara had tears shimmering in their eyes, while Dawn seemed beyond crying.

"Sweetie, we’re so sorry. I know we can’t understand what you’re feeling; nobody can." Tara’s voice was almost pleading. "But we do love you. We worry about you when you’re upset, and we’re proud of your intelligence and your kindness and we hope and pray that you’ll be happy in life—all the things that a family feels for each other."

Dawn turned to Tara, her voice dripping with sarcasm. "Family? I’m your little sister? Sure—I guess it’s easier to talk about me that way than as some freak who fell in love with you."

Willow watched helplessly as a rather large cat emerged from its bag and batted her lover up-side her head.

Tara struggled for words, a deep blush racing across her face. "Dawn, what do you m-mean? You have a c-crush on me?"

"I hate that word," Dawn spat. "It’s so…juvenile. ‘Oh, look—little Dawnie’s got a crush. Isn’t that just the cutest thing?’" She trembled for a moment, and then sank abruptly into the papasan chair, seemingly deflated. "It doesn’t matter anyway. You’re with Willow, I’m just a kid, and now it turns out that I’m not even a kid." She clutched a small pillow to her chest. "That time you took me to see ‘Antonia’s Line’? Never happened. Going to the library and then the Espresso Pump during the summer? We never did that. All those times when I just sat there being happy that you picked me to spend time with…you hadn’t picked me at all." The tears were flowing once more.

Willow was struck with a sudden sense of voyeurism, a feeling that she was watching something intensely personal that didn’t really involve her. Should she leave? Give them some time?

Her questioning was cut short as Tara reached out to squeeze her hand before moving over to sit on the floor beside Dawn, who refused to look at her. Willow followed, taking a seat on the bed to Dawn’s left.

"Dawn, I don’t know what to say," Tara began slowly. "And it’s not because I think you’re not human, and it’s not because I’m freaked out about your feelings. I don’t think it’s juvenile, or cute, or anything like that. It hurts like hell to love someone who—who isn’t available." She stole a quick glance at Willow, who could see that she was remembering the early days of their friendship. Looking back at Dawn, she continued, "I’m just a little awkward with this particular bit because I’m not used to the idea of someone falling for me. But that’s my deal, not yours, OK?" Tara reached out and placed a tentative hand over Dawn’s. This time, she didn’t withdraw. When she spoke, though, her voice was almost unbearably sad.

"It still doesn’t matter," she replied softly. "None of it’s real. I’m not real."

Willow broke in, unable to keep silent. "You are, Dawn. I know what I feel; I know that I love you. When you hurt, I hurt. When you won that poetry contest two months ago, I was so proud of you. And you did do that; there’s no question about that memory." She felt as if she were desperately trying to persuade a skeptic that the earth was round. It seemed so patently obvious and yet the skeptic had some very good reasons for her disbelief.

Tara leaned forward suddenly, her eyes intense. "Dawn, just what do you think makes somebody human? What’s the litmus test?"

Dawn looked at her in irritation. "Is this going to turn into some philosophical discussion on the nature of existence? ’Cause that’s just lame."

"Like hell it is," Tara retorted, much to Willow’s amazement. She watched Dawn’s eyes widen with surprise. "This entire thing is about the nature of existence." She sat back and shrugged. "But if you’re not up to it, that’s OK."

Willow could see Dawn’s eyes practically blaze with indignation. "What do you mean, if I’m not up to it? Like, if I’m not smart enough?"

"I didn’t say that," Tara replied placatingly. "I just meant that if you couldn’t talk about such a complex thing, you could tell me and I’d understand."

"That’s just five name-brands of bullshit," Dawn said angrily. "I may be fifteen, but I’ve read more than lots of people twice my age, and everybody I hang out with is all with the existential questioning. Except Xander and Anya," she added, seemingly as an afterthought. "They just fuck."

Willow was starting to find all the profanity a little heady. She fought the urge to call out "Damn straight!" just to be a part of the moment.

"So if you have the smarts for it, then, answer the question. What makes somebody human?" Tara cocked her head and waited.

Dawn fidgeted in the chair. Willow suddenly realized that Tara might be the only person with enough leverage to make Dawn think about such things. With Buffy or her mother or anyone else, Dawn would probably hurl some accusation and flounce off. Tara, though, she was most definitely afraid of pushing too far.

"OK, if you wanna get all abstract reasoning, I think that being human means that you feel the typical human feelings and…and that your body goes through lots of changes." She paused. "It means you’re born and then you die. Hopefully, with some time in between." She stopped, and looked at Tara defiantly. "I wasn’t born. I was…made, by a bunch of monks somewhere."

"I’ll give you that," Tara replied evenly. "But everything else? If you’re cut, you bleed. You’re finite; you know that, right?" Dawn nodded slowly. "And let’s face it, Sweetie, you definitely feel ‘the typical human feelings.’ We’ve all seen that." Dawn blushed furiously. "The one thing you don’t fit on is the birth experience. Are you going to let a womb dictate your feelings? And remember, that feeling bit is a fundamental part of humanity—you said so yourself."

"It’s not that simple," Dawn said with frustration. "You can’t just take this whole news flash and reduce it to a math equation."

Tara rubbed her hand gently. "I know, Dawn. God, I know. If it were mathematical in nature, you can bet I wouldn’t be contributing to this conversation at all." She sighed heavily. "But right now you’re so ready to throw out everything we
all feel, and I know this must be crazy-making for you, Sweetie, but…" She trailed off, and drew a deep breath. "But I just don’t want to lose you. It’s rare, and precious, to have people in your life who you just know belong in your life. I’ll be here for you, Dawnie, we both will. We’ll help you any way we can and you can call us day or night to talk. Just—please don’t take yourself away from us. Please don’t act like you’re not human just because of how you came into this world."

Dawn was sobbing now. Tara half-pulled her out of the chair and down to the floor, where she gathered her into her arms and rocked her slowly. After a moment’s hesitation, Willow slid off of the bed and joined them, partially enfolding Dawn in her own arms such that she and Tara created a kind of cocoon for the girl who huddled crying between them.

They sat that way for a long time, it seemed, the three of them entwined on the dorm floor—two powerful witches and an ancient mystical entity, all very real and all very human. Finally Dawn sniffled and tried, mostly unsuccessfully, to wipe her nose discreetly on her shirt sleeve. Willow and Tara pretended not to notice.

Sitting up slightly, Dawn muttered, "This is going to take a long time to get used to."

"I know, Sweetie," Tara nodded, brushing Dawn’s hair back from her face. "But you know that we love you, right? That we’ll do anything we can?"

"Yeah," came the soft reply.

"Listen, Dawn," Willow interjected suddenly. "Every teenager thinks she’s special, right? That she’s going through something so incredibly unique that no one else can relate; something that only she understands?"

"Right," Dawn answered slowly, a dim flicker of a smile crossing her lips.

"Well in your case, you’re right!" Willow announced with gleeful certainty. "I mean, every girl in your class thinks
she’s something special. Every one of them thinks that no one can begin to grasp her complexity."

"Especially that bitch Christy," Dawn nodded grimly.

"Especially that skanked-up, cheap-ass, two-bit ho’ Christy!" Willow exhorted, glad to be a part of the naughty talk, before catching Tara’s alarmed look over Dawn’s head. "Um, right, yes—especially that infinitely annoying person known as Christy. But Dawn," she continued, stroking the younger girl’s hair and gazing steadfastly into her eyes, "Dawn, you
are special. You are going through something that none of them can understand or compare to. You’re millions of years old and six months old and even with all of that, you’ve managed to get yourself loved something silly by some of the more interesting people in this town. If I do say so myself," she added with agrin.

Looking once more at Tara, she saw the cobalt eyes shining with joy and…Pride. She’s proud of me. No academic accomplishment had ever made Willow feel as proud as she did whenever she saw Tara looking at her with that expression.

"I guess that’s true," Dawn said, a full-fledged grin now in place.

Willow could feel a twinge shooting down her back and knew that she should probably move to a more comfortable position, but years of experience on the Hell Mouth had taught her that truly sacred moments are incredibly rare, and not to be ended lightly. So she sat there, arms and legs entangled with two such beloved souls, and let herself concentrate on the late-day sun that warmed her back.

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To Be Continued



Edited by: AntigoneUnbound at: 4/10/03 6:13:40 pm
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Part 23 - the antithesis of "Le Salaire de la peur"

Postby Bagheera » Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:45 pm

Now this is an interesting take on existentialism. A lot of existential pieces ("The Wages of Fear" - the French original; see the title of this thread - definitely springs to mind) run the argument that we are alive and human because life is full of suffering. It's a compelling argument, and it gets reinforced every time you turn on the news or open a daily paper. Conversely, Willow and Tara put it to Dawn that humanity is about the things that bring us joy. And given your little backhander to the Mutant Enemy philosophy ("the ‘Kill Anyone Who Seems Good or Happy’ school of writing") you've just gone about as non-canon as it's possible to go. Nice one.



B. (who has gone all philosophical now that the cricket season is over)

"They fed me behind bars from an iron pan till one night I felt that I was Bagheera--the Panther-- and no man's plaything, and I broke the silly lock with one blow of my paw and came away." Rudyard Kipling

Bagheera
 


Re: Part 23

Postby Cindy Lou Who » Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:02 pm

Mary:



"'Vouch-safe?' and trembling fingertips? Sarcastic you may be.

But when you write of 'Sturm und Drang' you do the same to me.":glasses



Who rocks?**BOOM BOOM**

YOU ROCK!**BOOM BOOM**



(That is the extent of my boosterism-feel free to attend the sportsy outing of your choice for more.)



This moment of fic reminds me - perhaps more than any other - how hamstrung television writers can be at dedicating time or meaning to the "little plot lines" they devise. I'm not sure I thought much about Dawn until you put flesh to bone.



In their view Dawn was/is protrayed as something to officiously grin and bear. If those same writers would have taken one moment to see things from your angle
Quote:
"Just—please don’t take yourself away from us. Please don’t act like you’re not human just because of how you came into this world."
To see Dawn as something to be valued rather than tolerated and protected to everyone else's enormous inconvenience.



But then it took YOUR Tara to appeal to Dawn's fears. And not much time could be given to her either.:(



Willow - thankfully - will be Willow! And you knocked me down twice with one continuous (if interrupted) shot:
Quote:
Willow was starting to find all the profanity a little heady. She fought the urge to call out "Damn straight!" just to be a part of the moment.
Quote:
"Especially that skanked-up, cheap-ass, two-bit ho’ Christy!" Willow exhorted, glad to be a part of the naughty talk, before catching Tara’s alarmed look.
:rofl



And Tara was proud of her when she made that final "You're more special than everyone you envy" plea? Hell! I was proud of her! There's nothing that compares with being "loved silly.":bow



I'm going out now to buy a hat.



You thrill me~Suse

~Dorothy Parker (on her writing)~:



"I can't write five words but that I change seven."



"My verses, I cannot say poems...I was following in the exquisite footsteps of Miss Millay, unhappily in my own horrible sneakers."

Cindy Lou Who
 


Re: Part 23

Postby TemperedCynic » Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:04 pm

Simple pleasures are the best. Lounging with your loved one nearby, and nothing pressing to do. Relax, we've earned it. Tara could never hurt someone intentionally, and she'll soon prove that when Dawn arrives. In the meantime, the talk with Aunt Beverly should take us and the Scoobys on a whole new adventure.



Dawn's first words are "It's me" when she arrived. She didn't believe those words - there is no "me". She feels unwanted and unloved, because everyone's memories of her are a lie. But she has emotions, and she startles Tara with her feelings. Loving the unattainable is familiar ground, and Tara starts relating to Dawn at that level. But Dawn will have none of it - she isn't real and philosophical discussions won't change that. This sets Tara off, shocking Dawn and Willow. OK, what IS human? A wonderful BtVS question that has paralleled another topic - what is good? - since the show first aired. Dawn backtracks now. Treating Tara badly would shout juvenile, so Dawn must assess her existence. She finds that her existence has merit because she is loved. Not a bad lesson to learn at 14. Spicy talk and "meow"-moments help to cement the bond the women share. I truly wish the show had approached the Dawn-being-human issue in this manner. It might have spared us more "Get Out!"-to-the-third-power moments.



I'm happy to wait patiently for another chapter.


More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly. Woody Allen (1935 - )

TemperedCynic
 


Re: Part 23

Postby barnabasvamp » Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:27 pm

Leave it to Willow to be the one who helps Dawn see she is special!



Excellent update! :applause

BV

"When choosing between two evils, I always like to take the one I've never tried before"-Mae West

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Re: Part 23

Postby The Rose24 » Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:03 pm

Very touching scene between W/T then W/T and Dawn. :clap Keep up the good work.

Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.


Tara: Willow, I got so lost.

Willow: I found you. I will always find you.


The Rose24
 


Who is Dawn Summers?

Postby darkmagicwillow » Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:27 pm


"I wasn’t born. I was…made, by a bunch of monks somewhere."
Was she made or was she simply transformed? Perhaps the Key always has been a sentient being of a sort. And as she wasn't born, I think Tara's being premature in saying that her existence is finite. The transformation may be a simpler disguise than making a real human; Dawn might be an immortal construct, unable to ever to grow up and become an adult. We don't know for sure, though it's surely not the time to bring up those speculations to Dawn now.



Like Tara's, Dawn's biological parents are gone, so she can't ask them how and why they made her. That may be for the best, as Buffy's protection is pitiful compared to Glory's power. Glory could have killed Buffy at any moment, and there's no good reason she didn't other than writer fiat. If the monks were calculating enough to give Buffy a sister to protect, perhaps they were also calculating enough to give Buffy a sister she couldn't save except by sacrificing herself to close the portal, eliminating Glory (by sending her through the portal if nothing else) and saving the Key to be used again. Why is Dawn human if the blood connection wasn't part of the plan?



Dawn doesn't know enough to worry about that yet though. Fearfully, in this chapter, she turns to her adopted family, challenging them to reject her, terrified that they will but determined to force the issue and get it over with. Dawn's Keyness punctures her crush on Tara, as she realizes that her memories of Tara were false, yet her adopted family doesn't reject her. The specifics of her memories may be false, but they are truthful in what they reveal about the character of her family.



Yet that veracity and warmth brings up more dark possibilites. Where did those memories come from? It would take a lifetime of living to create a full person's memories, so I can't believe they were created ex nihilo. Perhaps Dawn is a Frankensteinian creation made from memories stolen from the Scoobies and their friends, sewn together to make a new life. In any case, something had to happen in those moments they recall spending with Dawn. How much of their lives did they lose? The worst case is that there was someone in their lives that they no longer remember, and whose life, willingly or unwillingly, was sacrificed to create Dawn.

--

"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

darkmagicwillow
 


Re: Part 23

Postby shuyaku » Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:58 pm

Fantastic, fantastic update! :bow



I love how you handled Dawn finding out she was the key. And the fact that W/T were there for her and knew what they had/needed to do - awesome. It certainly made a lot more sense and was much more believeable within the realm of the characters established modus operandi (compared to those so-called experts at ME :rage ) Sorry sometimes ME brings out the worst in me :p



Looking forward to more of this wonderful story.

- shuyaku



ps: reading your reponses to feedback is almost at much fun as reading the story :rofl

shuyaku
 


Re: Who is Dawn Summers?

Postby Sela » Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:37 pm

You know, Mary, I've always felt that Dawn is an immensely complex character--much more complex than the sniveling, whiney teenage interloper the writers seem hell-bent on portraying her as--and you really capture the essence of that complexity. I see Dawn as both vulnerable and formidable, vulnerable because she is so new and stuck in a teenager's body with teenage emotions and hormones, but formidable because her power is unmatched and untapped. And I think that may be very intimidating for her. She's had quite a bit of difficulty finding her niche within the group. She's been cast aside, patronized, and sometimes blatantly ignored, but that was all par for the course as a normal teenage girl thrown into a tight-knit group of in-transition adults. But now that she's discovered she's so much more than that, it must be very hard to reconcile that normality with her other-worldliness. Her questioning of her own humanity is very telling because it stresses just how very human she is. It IS human nature to question; it IS human nature to seek answers. So in the very act of seeking Willow and Tara out to ask about her humanity, she is showing that she is, in fact, human, and that she desires to be human. That doesn't mean that her powers aren't intriguing. I'm sure that as time goes by, she'll want to know what her true purpose is, but for now, she wants to have the comfort of humanity to bind her to this world and in particular, to the people she loves. In essence, I think Dawn is really a metaphor for the way we all feel at times--present in this world,but uncertain of our functions and also ordinary but with the potential to be extraordinary. Kudos.



I have to say that at first, I was surprised that Dawn blurted out her love for Tara, but upon reflection, I realized that it made perfect sense. Admitting to loving Tara was another affirmation of her humanity. If she were just a ball of energy, could she feel such a concentrated emotion toward one person? Do balls of energy even feel necessarily? So it was fitting to hear Dawn ramble on about her love for Tara because it really emphasized the human condition. I also really appreciated the way Tara handled that situation. She was very conscious of how sensitive Dawn was because she really sees herself in Dawn. You've established that Tara has experienced heartache because of unrequited love, so who better to handle Dawn with kid gloves than the experienced Tara? And at the same time, while Tara didn't diminish Dawn's feelings for her, she also didn't make it the central issue. Because Tara has been through something similar, she can say, with authority, that Dawn will get over her feelings for Tara and she will find something beautiful and unexpected--whether that's with a man or a woman remains to be seen, but Tara knows that Dawn shouldn't limit herself. So she shifts the focus from Dawn's admission of love to the meaning of life. It's a lovely scene and a lovely interaction between the characters.



Also, the way you made Willow a part of this very personal exchange was heartwarming. While at first, Willow felt like an outsider, Tara comforted her lover and let her know that she would always be a part of every facet of her life. And Willow adapted so well to what could've been a very uncomfortable situation. I mean, I don't want to be standing in a room when someone I know and love tells my lover that they are in love with them. That would blow my mind, but Willow is so in tune with Tara and so understanding of Dawn that it's not even an issue. Willow and Tara have complete trust in each other. This part just reinforced the love these two women have for one another.



I just wanted to point out how very impressed I am with the way you've really both subverted and reaffirmed my ideas on being human and being a demon. I think that humans can be demonic, as you've shown with Donnie and Nathan, and that demons can be human as well. It shouldn't be such a muddled question, but it is. And it's something you do very well.



And on a final note--I loved babbling-just-wanting-to-contribute-cursing-loving-sweet-googly-faced Willow. She's an absolute doll. And the way you write her and in particular, her feelings for Tara, I swear, I can almost hear Willow's heart beat to "Ta-ra-Ta-ra." So sweet. Thanks.



--Sela

Sela
 


Re: Part 23

Postby Patches » Fri Apr 11, 2003 1:36 am

Hey again. Damn it, I lost the yellow jersey! Sorry I missed posting to Chapter 22 last week. Higher functioning seems to be something I’m having a little difficultly with these days. I’m beginning to really understand how Pandora felt. I’ll catch up on your intimate little up close and personal with chapter 22 in a bit.



That said, where to start - I suppose, heaping praises upon you would be a good place, don’t ‘cha think? If all it takes to keep you writing is a few kind words, what do we get if we start going through Roget’s? Humm, let’s find out, and start with: wonderful, marvellous, amazing, astounding, great, swell (ooh, great swells – now that’s something you can appreciate), dandy, colossal, terrific, splendid, and last but not least, fabulous!



I can really empathise with how you portray Tara and her vastly ranging emotions as she deals first with the reality of her past, and then with its aftermath. Superficially, Tara’s answered her questions about her past. However, as you adeptly show here, her answers have led to more questions and uncertainty. We know Tara’s already cast doubt on her father’s obsequious adherence to his mother’s assertion that he carried demon blood. Here, we see more of Tara’s frustration at not being able to question the people whose lives have affected hers so deeply. I understand her mixture of caution and intrigue at the prospect of contacting Aunt Beverley. It’s hard to determine just how far under the rock one should look.



Much of the Maclay family demon legacy does have a metaphorical feel to it. Even Nathan’s actions and motives (twisted as they became in reality) don’t smack of evil, otherworldly demon-ness, at least not the kind we’re accustomed to in the various 'buffyverses'. In fact, much of what happened in the Maclay household seems to be borne of human frailty, weakness and fear. Demon or not, Tara has a terrible legacy she must deal with. It’s interesting that she no longer ‘senses’ her mother’s presence around her. Tara’s faced with the reality of the imperfection of her protector in the Maclay household, her mother, and that shattered illusion of perfection has somehow loosened her bond. What is the weight of the sin of omission compared with the sin of commission in Tara’s mind.



Willow’s presence through this is wonderful. It’s difficult for people to be on the outside, wanting to help, but not being able to make the pain and uncertainty go away. Though there are no words, you allow Willow to convey through the physical world, her need to comfort Tara. It’s marvellous how far a gentle hug will go to ease the hurt; sometimes words aren’t necessary or appropriate. I laughed at Willow, Willowbabbling herself out of trouble when she almost disclosed Dawn's feelings for Tara.



I love the strength of character Tara and Willow show in dealing with Dawn. Tara has the presence to step away from her own nightmare and embrace Dawn. Wow, I think most people would be buried so deep in their own troubles that seeing a way clear to helping someone else wouldn’t be possible, let alone effective. However, you’ve done such a wonderful job with Tara’s character that for her not to find this strength would seem an oddity.



I absolutely loved the discussion of the nature of existence, especially coming from someone whose own ‘origin’ and beliefs about her life, stemming from that beginning, were so recently and thoroughly shattered. It’s fascinating how one’s paradigm can shift so completely with the revelation of one little piece of information: Nathan’s comment, “you never were,” and “Dawn, you’re the key,” (or whatever Buffy said). It’s so easy for one’s world to unravel in the blink of an eye. Although Tara and Dawn’s worlds are forever changed, one senses that they’ll make it through because of the people who surround and love them.



What really caught me was the ending, “…years of experience on the Hell Mouth had taught her that truly sacred moments are incredibly rare…”. I was thinking about this a lot as I was composing this tonight and the truth of those words – those moments are rare and wonderful.



Thanks for the story Mary. It’s a wonderful gift.



Cheers!!

Patches



You know I've heard about people like me. But I never made the connection. They walk one road to set them free, And find they've gone the wrong direction. But there's no need for turning back 'cause all roads lead to where I stand. And I believe I'll walk them all No matter what I may have planned

Patches
 


Re: Who is Dawn Summers?

Postby Grimaldi » Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:22 am

loved the update :)



i liked that Willow and Tara were there for Dawn after she found out the truth, and that they were able to make her see that even if she was created by some monks and is only a ball of energy to them she is real and part of their family

What the funk and wagnles are you talking about?
I'm not stealing, I'm just taking things without paying for them. In what twisted dictionary is that stealing?

Grimaldi
 


Re: Part 23

Postby justin » Fri Apr 11, 2003 10:18 am

This really is an amazing story.



In the episode Family Tara's family came across as being barely one dimensional but your story really brings them to life.



Even though I still hate both Donnie and Nathan for the way they treated Tara, I also feel sorry for them, and Beth as well, for being trapped in a cycle of violence and hatred.



It's interesting how Donnie and Tara grew up to be so very different people despite their similar backgrounds. I've heard, thought I don't recall where, that people who are abused either become abusers themselves or they become defenders who try to protect other people from experiencing the same abuse that they did. I guess that Donnie went down the first path, while Tara went down the second. Though I'm not sure whether this is because Tara is intrinsicaly a better person than Donnie or just that she is stronger than him.



Anyway this is all thought provoking stuff, which is definitely of the good.



I understand, you should be with the person you l-love


I am


justin
 

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