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Joss at the Bronze 5/26

Postby darvangi » Sun May 27, 2001 4:58 pm

These are in descending order. I want to know what the spoilers are that Joss is referring to as bull hockey. Guess I'll have to go trudging through the Bronze to find out. Ick. I stole this stuff from the intensely wonderful Posting Board Archives site: http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~hsiao/media/tv/buffy/bronze/

joss says:
(Sat May 26 19:22:48 2001 66.31.214.93)

Leaving am I, but let's talk crossovers. No plans for one right now, but they are not ruled out forever. Better to let the shows get started on there own, but someday.... in the meanwhile, I have a thrilling noncrossover planned that should drive you guys insane. As far as continuity, Angel will deal with the ramifications of Buffy's death and all that comes after, but we'll definitely be focussing on the unbelievably intense problems he's gonna have at home. i.e. Non Buffy watchers will still get the show, but we'll be true to the past.

And now I must go.

I am gone.

Hmmm mmmmnnm, mmmhm, dum da dum -- whah? No! I'm gone! I wasn't -- I didn't lurk, who said --

Forget it. I'm GOING, okay? You don't have to nudge.
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joss says:
(Sat May 26 19:16:47 2001 66.31.214.93)

I think the WB is rerunning Buffy wednesdays at 9:00 and on the weekends as well.

And I probably won't be dancing in the musical -- I tried to think of a Numfarcentric storyline but it all turned out to be about those buffy characters. Sigh...
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joss says:
(Sat May 26 19:13:27 2001 66.31.214.93)

Plot holes? Hmmm. First of all, we started setting up in ep 13 that Buf and Dawn were true blood relations, that their blood was the same, not just similar, so the portal would be sated when EITHER stopped flowing. Second, nobody ever took orders from the Buffybot. Buffy gave the gang the speech in the magic shop then went down to change clothes with the bot. At the sight of the tower you hear Buffy give willow an order and then SEE the bot. You never see the bot speak because the offscreen, that-whiyte-sweater-was-supposed-to-be-pink Buffy actually said it.

And the spoilers below are, uh... if you had a male cow, and that cow was given something to eat, sometime later there might be, um...well the spoiler is wrong.
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joss says:
(Sat May 26 19:07:19 2001 66.31.214.93)

Slayergrl199: Exciting though that sounds, I'm actually on vacation. But thanks again all for helping spread the good word.

Musicals are harder to write than other things. I think I'm in over my head. Heh-heh.
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joss says:
(Sat May 26 18:58:56 2001 66.31.214.93)

buffy is sooo rad i wish they had not cancelled it who is going to be the nu slayer i hope not Anya...?!!!!!!

shout outs to:
J.Edgar
Pornman
David Greenwalt's Better half
Tim Minear's lower half
Grettie, but not the one you're thinking of.
me

That all probably would have seemed more realistic with an alias. Truth is, though: We're BONED! Everyone keeps saying the show is over no matter how many times we tell them it's not. As Marti (and Kai) pointed out, I feel like Spike explaining the Ben/Glory connection. It's just like people to assume a story is over just because the hero is rotting in her grave. Sheesh.
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ps - Is that not just totally hilarious, that first post where Joss imitates a clueless Bronze poster? Can't help lovin' dat man.

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I thought it might be nice to include the posts that Joss responded to (yes, I actually waded through the Bronze archives and found them myself). The one on top contains the accusation of plot holes, and the one on bottom includes the bogus spoilers that Joss denied:

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Thoin says:
(Sat May 26 19:06:07 2001 207.112.166.31)

Joss!!! I knew we'd be on the same board...ohhhhhhhhh.....have I got a couple of bones to pick with YOU, sir!

Though first, it MUST be said...you are to be commended, honored, revered and bowed-down-before for five INCREDIBLE seasons of Buffy and two awesome seasons of Angel. Not many writer/producers could have withstood the strain and still kept the quality as high. You, J. Michael Straczinski, that's about it at this point. And you'd have to know how I feel about Straczinski to understand the exaulted company I'm putting you in.

And as for the endless questions, when I first joined the board, the big gripe was about people who kept coming on declaring that Buffy was "da bomb". Sigh.

Now then...grrrr...plot holes, Mr. Whedon. WHY the plot holes? From YOU, the king of no plot holes!!!

The obvious one...how could what Buffy did (note my ability to avoid spoiler warnings) POSSIBLY close the portal when we were specifically told that the blood that had been running had to stop running for the portal to close...and THAT blood was still running??? Grrr..

And why was the gang taking orders from the Buffybot? I really didn't get that one at all!

You are still a writer-god and a genius, don't get me wrong. I've just been gnawing at this for DAYS since the finale and can't STAND it anymore. PLEASE explain this to me, 'cause I don't get it. Sigh.

And, if you don't want to do that, you could always name your two nameless little Fifths, remember them? The younger one is into kickboxing (well, mostly destroying anything breakable in his path) and the older one wants to be a writer. And they need you to name them please, sir.


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RHACK88 says:
(Sat May 26 18:38:38 2001 216.34.188.97)

So.'s TO MY FELLOW BRONZERS EPOST ANY new interest?
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SPOILERS FOR THE SEASON 6 2 HOUR BTVS PRIEMERE ON UPN
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If you do not want to be SPOILED for next SEASONS 2 hour Premiere on UPN please do not read any further. You may ask how can I have a spoiler already? I have a friend named MarcO who keeps sending me SPOILERS he has always been right and always ahead of any spoiler boards. How? The shooting scripts are months ahead of the actual filming. Posted on the BRONZE posting boards Joss WHEADONS interview, he said we have already written half of season 6 written before we knew we were moving to UPN. I don't know how Marco got it but he sent me the shooting script for the 2-hour season premiere. If I wasn't so sure I would not be warning you, do not read if you do not want to be SPOILED.
In Joss interview he said, next season would be darker and more WILLOW centric, here is the reason why. On Angel's SEASON final EPISODE 22 SEASON 2 who's waiting for ANGEL? WILLOW is. Why is it Willow and why is she alone I will explain. AFTER Willow tells Angel, and she gets up to leave, Angel asks her a favor, Willow replies anything Angel. Please sing for the host. Willow looks shocked and then asks what should she sing and Angel replies it doesn't matter anything will do. Anything Willow says Angel says anything. Willow reluctantly starts to sing KAT STEVENS CATS IN the cradle. After wards the host tells her to see D'hofferan, he is the only one who can help BUFFY.
Willow returns to Sunnydale crabs her amulet and is transported to see D'hofferan. She asks if he really can resurrect BUFFY. He said I can do better I can fold back time so she never dies, but at a price.
Willow asks what price, he states I want you for my vengeance DEMON. Willow asks if there is any other way and D'hofferan says no. Willow agrees. Suddenly she is explaining to Buffy about Tara's essence. She is warned not to tell anybody anything so she relives the fight at the tower. After the Doc demon throws Spike off the tower D'hofferan appears and throws Doc off after Spike. He makes sure dawn won't remember and disappears. Buffy comes up release Dawn they hug and go down the stairs. The Scoobies gather around and that's when they notice Willow is missing. They all start yelling her name. The show ends.
If you forgot D'hofferan is the Demon Anya talks to in SEASON 2 episode 16 Bewitched Bothered and bewildered. Asking him to fold back time so she can get her amulet. He told her she was not worth the effort. In Season 4 EPISODE 7 something Blue he kidnaps Willow. He tells her he wants her for a vengeance demon Willow refuses and D'hofferan let her go after giving her an amulet to contact him.
Why did he let Willow go so easily because D'hofferan can look into the future he knew Willows powers would grow. He waited for her to come about Buffy and now he owns Willow forever.
Why am I posting this spoiler, because Joss WHEDON has changed Episodes when he discovers they have been leaked. I am posting this in hopes he does change the season opener I do not Willow to become a vengeance demon even to save Buffy so I hope this will change the story line.
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END OF SPOILERS FOR THE SEASON 6 2-HOUR BTVS PRIEMERE ON


[This message has been edited by darvangi (edited May 27, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by xita (edited January 27, 2002).]joss says:
(Sat May 26 19:22:48 2001 66.31.214.93)

Leaving am I, but let's talk crossovers. No plans for one right now, but they are not ruled out forever. Better to let the shows get started on there own, but someday.... in the meanwhile, I have a thrilling noncrossover planned that should drive you guys insane. As far as continuity, Angel will deal with the ramifications of Buffy's death and all that comes after, but we'll definitely be focussing on the unbelievably intense problems he's gonna have at home. i.e. Non Buffy watchers will still get the show, but we'll be true to the past.

And now I must go.

I am gone.

Hmmm mmmmnnm, mmmhm, dum da dum -- whah? No! I'm gone! I wasn't -- I didn't lurk, who said --

Forget it. I'm GOING, okay? You don't have to nudge.
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joss says:
(Sat May 26 19:16:47 2001 66.31.214.93)

I think the WB is rerunning Buffy wednesdays at 9:00 and on the weekends as well.

And I probably won't be dancing in the musical -- I tried to think of a Numfarcentric storyline but it all turned out to be about those buffy characters. Sigh...
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joss says:
(Sat May 26 19:13:27 2001 66.31.214.93)

Plot holes? Hmmm. First of all, we started setting up in ep 13 that Buf and Dawn were true blood relations, that their blood was the same, not just similar, so the portal would be sated when EITHER stopped flowing. Second, nobody ever took orders from the Buffybot. Buffy gave the gang the speech in the magic shop then went down to change clothes with the bot. At the sight of the tower you hear Buffy give willow an order and then SEE the bot. You never see the bot speak because the offscreen, that-whiyte-sweater-was-supposed-to-be-pink Buffy actually said it.

And the spoilers below are, uh... if you had a male cow, and that cow was given something to eat, sometime later there might be, um...well the spoiler is wrong.
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joss says:
(Sat May 26 19:07:19 2001 66.31.214.93)

Slayergrl199: Exciting though that sounds, I'm actually on vacation. But thanks again all for helping spread the good word.

Musicals are harder to write than other things. I think I'm in over my head. Heh-heh.
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joss says:
(Sat May 26 18:58:56 2001 66.31.214.93)

buffy is sooo rad i wish they had not cancelled it who is going to be the nu slayer i hope not Anya...?!!!!!!

shout outs to:
J.Edgar
Pornman
David Greenwalt's Better half
Tim Minear's lower half
Grettie, but not the one you're thinking of.
me

That all probably would have seemed more realistic with an alias. Truth is, though: We're BONED! Everyone keeps saying the show is over no matter how many times we tell them it's not. As Marti (and Kai) pointed out, I feel like Spike explaining the Ben/Glory connection. It's just like people to assume a story is over just because the hero is rotting in her grave. Sheesh.
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darvangi
 


Joss at the Bronze 5/26

Postby april » Sun May 27, 2001 6:34 pm

hee darin, i like the part where he says "if you have a male cow, and you give that cow something to eat, then later there might be some..."

lol! that joss is a funny guy.

april
 


Joss at the Bronze 5/26

Postby darvangi » Sun May 27, 2001 6:44 pm

I know, April - I have to start working that cow line into my conversations. I can't wait! When I grow up, I want to be a Joss.
darvangi
 


Joss at the Bronze 5/26

Postby xita » Sun May 27, 2001 8:00 pm

I can't wait for the musical!
xita
 


Joss at the Bronze 5/26

Postby hopey » Sun May 27, 2001 8:08 pm

ok... just wondering... is someone buying the spoilers RHACK88 posted?
hopey
 


Joss at the Bronze 5/26

Postby Catwoman » Sun May 27, 2001 8:31 pm

quote:
Originally posted by hopey:
ok... just wondering... is someone buying the spoilers RHACK88 posted?

Not really, because this seems to be a direct continuation from the Angel finale. I thought that when season 6 starts, it would take place about 3 months after the final battle, which is the way a new season usually starts. So the characters would have had a few months to deal with whatever's happened.

I think the musical episode would work really well if it was done sort of the way 'Hush' was done. In other words, somehow Sunnydale's townspeople get possessed by something or another, and the only way they can communicate is through song. Otherwise it could be a little um, cheesy maybe. I'd still love it though. It would be cool if the songs from the ep would be put on the next soundtrack, whenever that's released.

quote:

Catwoman
 


Joss at the Bronze 5/26

Postby Wiccagrrl » Sun May 27, 2001 9:25 pm

Interesting comments by Joss. And, oh, that phoney spoiler- pretty bad. (Guess Joss pretty much covered that with the cow comment) And love how the poster adds that he's leaking it "hoping Joss'll change it" so that, when it doesn't come true, he can just say "Oh, Joss must have found out I leaked it and changed the story." Yeah, as if
Wiccagrrl
 


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