It's the Spoiler Thread
continued from Thread #6
Ok, brand new start to the spoiler thread. Let's keep it confined to spoilers this time. If you want to go off in tangets, may I suggest the daily thread
Also, this is very important for those of us in the know, there are very disturbing spoilers floating out there. However, we have all heard them and debated them to death. THERE ARE NO LEGITIMATE SPOILERS that indicate a Tara death or Willow as the BSD. So I will asks posters, unless there are new, substantial, and legitimate spoilers regarding a possible big scoobie death as it relates to Willow and Tara or Willow the big bad, do not post about it. If you have any questions about our policy read our old spoiler threads, read all the way back to November to get the full picture.. We know, we are worried, we take them seriously but we can't spend all our time talking about them. You will be promptly edited or deleted.
Esteemed established kitties, do not be tempted to reply to trolls. If there are people who insist on bringing this negativity to our spoiler thread, clearly state our policy and notify any of the mods! Do not engage in a flame war with them.
Now on to actual spoilers!!
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From AngelX when she made her gracious visit to our board:
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I've notified all of my sources and have them hunting for information. All I know right now is that none of them have heard anything about her death. Unfortunately, that doesn't necessarily mean anything one way or another, but it's better than direct info that says she will die.-Michelle
now from gift of amber:
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TARA IS IN EPISODE 16!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tara finds herself pulled into a fight with a hairy demon.I'm going to go through and find more stuff, but I wanted to let everyone know
---Tara tells Anya that she doesn't think it's a good idea to include "sex poodle" in her vows.
I'm trying to figure out if she survives the "fight", but I'm not sure I have stuff for that far. I will let you know when I know.--Buffy, Willow, and Dawn talk about Xander walking out on the wedding.
--Xander checks into a crappy motel.
The fight is described as "fists and tentacles flying", so there is nothing to lead me to believe a death is involved, plus the talking about Xander is after the fight, and they wouldn't be talking about Xander if Tara had just been killed.
--The girl Spike was with, he can't remember her name when asked, so he asks her, and she says her name is "Tarantula".
--Anya is practising her vows, "I promise to have sex with you whenever...I want", and doesn't want to use the word cherish.I don't know about the maid of honor thing...it's possible...we don't know for sure who it is.
--Warty Demon offers to help with the coffee maker, but can't fix it, and Xander then fixes it.
--"Hymeneal Salutations"....D'Hoffryn says to Dawn.
--Uncle Rory picks up a GIRL caterer in front of Dawn.
--Dawn is talking to a demon teen about who has a worse family. The teen offers her a Shirley Temple.
--Buffy acts out charades on stage at the lodge.
From Autumn:
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A whole bunch of revisions were just released today. I'm going through them now. So far my favorite Tara line is to Anya "Uh, I'm not sure you should say 'sex poodle' in your vowsOK, there is no indication in the sides that Tara is harmed in any way. The notation of her being "pulled into the fray" means getting in the middle of a big Harris Family/Demon argument.
Also, there are two partial scenes where Tara is helping Anya with her vows.Edited to add:
Looks like Lia and I have the same info at the same time. My *impression* based on reading this is that Tara may very well be the maid of honor as she is alone with Tara in working through and going over her vows. However nothing I read states that for sure.Autumn
And Rane, the maid of honor thing was just an impression based on the fact that twice Tara and Anya were working on vows.Also, a lot of rewites from the last set that went out. For instance Xander no longer asks if the magical orb is from Willow, etc. So this one give the impression very much of a script still in progress. Just FYI. Could be more changes.
The reason for my in progress comments were because there were SO many updates today with new characters, etc as well as rewrites to a lot of the scenes that came before. That usually indicates it is undergoing a lot of massaging. The other sides I've seen this season did not have nearly the amount of revisions as these did.
Also, looks like Halfrek is also a bridesmaid.
Might be tough Bob. A lot of it is interiors. And most of it take place it what was first an Elks lodge and has now migrated into a Bison's lodge during rewrites.
From the spoilerzone
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There's a lull momentarily, then Mr. Harris says something insulting about the demons, and the fight starts again. Willow rescues Tara from the brawl, while Anya makes everyone sit down and be quiet. But Xander and Anya step away for a minute, and Xander tells Anya he can't get married to her. He admits he has had fears for a long time. He doesn't want to make a mistake that will last forever. She walks away from him, stunned. Then he walks in the other direction. Anya returns to the guests. She looks absolutely heartbroken. The guests start fighting again.
General spoilers from the cross and stake
quote:General Season 6
Crossovers with Angel are unlikely. If they are necessary, they will happen.
No new Slayer. Joss says no. When Faith dies, a new Slayer will be called, but otherwise, no.
Anthony Stewart Head is contracted as a recurring star for the 6th season.Episode 16
Ep: 16. Writer: Rebecca Rand Kirshner.
Xander and Anya's wedding!
from GiftofAmber
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Episode 17 "Normal Again"
Written by Diego Gutierrez
Directed by Rick RosenthalTara is in the episode. The nerds are in the episode. Joyce is in the episode. It is an altered reality episode.
From my same anonymous RAMS source regarding episode 17:
Tara saves Willow during the Buffy fight then Willow saves Tara without using magic
From Dark Sheep Mysterioso Ep 18 Entropy:
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All right. I give this as a gift to those who so see it fit as one. I'm not gonna give you all of the stuff I have BUT, I will give you a very good part of it. But there is an EVEN better part/ parts of this ep. Anyway:
ACT ONE
Int. Uc Sunnydale Campus- Day
As students stream out of class, we see WILLOW, books in hand, leaning up against the wall of the building. Kinda focred casual. TARA comes out of class. Willow sees her, brightens, walks to her.
T: Hey
W: Look at you. All coming-out-of-class and everything.
T: (smiling) I do that sometimes. Usually at the end part of the class.
W: Right [ for some reason the script says Warren, I guess they need a reader. Ruth you might want to apply! But Willow does say this line]
They walk together. Slowly. Not rushing anywhere.
T: (pointing awkawardly at Willow's neck) How's your...you know, after the basement deal?
Willow swivels her head, testing her neck.
W: It's between a hitch and a kink. With a side of twinge. It's okay.
T: And Buffy's okay too? Enjoying the refreshing sanity and so forth?
W: (overdoing) Ha! Yes! Refreshing san--that's funny! (compensating soberly) She's okay. A little...freaked. I'm glad she didn't hurt you.
T: You too.
A beat of silence, then:
T (cont'd): So this is becoming kind of a regular thing. You and me after class.
W: Uh, I didn't...
T: only this time you stuck around.
W: Oh, um...various sounds of hesitation [again I believe this should have been in parentheticals]
T: She was just a friend.
Willow's caught a little off guard. But relieved.
W: Friends are nice!
T: You rushed off before I could, you know, explain.
W: Officially, of course, I have to say that I have no idea what you're talking about.
T: Unofficially?
Willow just grins a big grin. They walk in silence for a moment. Willow, still nervous, takes a deep breath, then:
W: We should get coffee some time. Maybe some day this week after class.
T: I am free tomorrow. [{I know we're all cheering right now.}]
W: You could, you could bring your friend.
Tara's actually a little thrown by this.
T: I wasn't gonna--I mean, if you have a friend-- [uh oh! But alas:]
W: No! I'm, oh, I'm friendless.
T: Yeah, yeah. No friends--I mean, I have friends...[sadly I wasn't her friend ]
W: Many dear friends, yeah, but--
T: Coffee.
W: With us. Who are...just friends.
Eventually later they go to the Expesso Pump and Anya shows up and ruins their Coffee date so to speak. I have more info, but I think this is good enough for now. I'm sure someone else will have the info that I am NOT going to post at this time. Too much of a good thing can kill you!
For I am Dark Sheep Mysterioso. May all lesser sheep bow before me. And on a personal note, you will very much like the way this episode ends
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Thank you for the new thread Xita.
BTW I got an e-mail from Tensai/Spoiler Slayer stating he *is* giving Herc the credit for Asylum (now Normal Again). Personally I love the site but I hate the rankings - I mean you could have a paragraph of information from one source and then one from another, and it just depends how many spoilers you chop it into that gives it a different ranking.
Oh and I sooooo hope D-Sheep-M meant the ending to Episode 18 was related to W/T! Come back sheepy and tell us more *flutters eyelids* pleassssssssssse!
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Yeah thanks Xita for the new spoiler thread.
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Ooh, a shiny new spoiler thread.
I just found some new spoilers at the Cross & Stake - no idea as to their provenance, but I thought I'd share:
http://www.voy.com/13746/81272.html
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MAYHEM CAUSED. Monsters certainly not involved, officials say. - Headline on Xander's newspaper in 'OMWF'
TARA: Oh mah god, cuss it all t' tarnation. ah's cured! Fry mah hide! ah's hankerin' th' fellas! - Tara in 'speaks redneck' revelation.
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Thanks tyche. See, I'm still intrigued by this idea that Buffy saw her mother, or something resembling her mother when she was dead, and I'd sure like to know more about it.
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So briefly.
Tara is in Episodes 16, 17 and 18.
Still unknown about 19, 20 and 21.
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I *think* Tara is in episode 19. I recall seeing something about her being on the set.
Of course if she isn't and is in a later episode I'll just say they postponed her appearance and I was never wrong so I still remain 100% accurate.
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I REALLY think Tara will be in more episodes than her original 16. Tara is too important to leave out of the final four. I am also sure The Scoobies will need Tara's magickal expertise at one point or another.
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Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
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I personally see her being in 16-19, and 21-22. See, MN is writing 21 and she mentioned wanting to do a W/T make-up scene. So I put her in 21 so we can have a make-up game of shiver me timberless. And I just want her to be in the season finale. That would also make 18 eps, the same as last season, when she also had a 16-ep contract.
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Tara: Horsies!
Willow: Don't hit the horsies!
Buffy: We won't! (to giles) Aim for the horsies.
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I too think that Tara will be in the final four episodes of this season. I'm looking forward to the wedding and the Tara/Willow moments in ep.18. Does anyone have anymore info about ep.18? How does it end with Willow/Tara? What are Buffy, Dawn, and Xanya doing in this episode? I hope these questions will soon be answered because I'm too eager to know the details.
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Can anyone tell me if there will be a new ep airing in the US on March 19th? I don't remember hearing that there would be, but I could be entirely wrong. (Being in the UK, I don't tend to take that much notice of these things.) It's just that my fiance will be in the UK with me from 10-23rd March, and he wants to sort out his taping in advance.
Cheers.
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quote:
Originally posted by tyche:
Can anyone tell me if there will be a new ep airing in the US on March 19th
I really doubt it. I suspect the next new episode will land sometime in April for them to have enough all new Buffy for May sweeps.
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First off.... I am sooo HAPPY with the W/T spoilers. YAY!!!! I miss our girls.
The Rose, I was meaning to ask you.. in your sig, the first quote from Tara about her heart doesn't stutter.. what epi is that from?
Thanks in advance,
Jen
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Where did Marti Noxon say that she wanted to write Willow and Tara's make-up scene? I must have missed that one.
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Marti didn't say she wanted to write the reunion scene--there was a post in the last spoiler thread where someone quoted Marti as saying she wanted to write a romantic W/T scene that didn't involve magick or singing. If that's true...well, it's really great, isn't it?
Personally I think the reunion will come in Ep 19. Ep 19 is always a big W/T ep. In S4 it was NMR and despite the angst it ended with the best thing ever--W/T becoming a real couple. In S5 it was TL which was just horrible, with the fight and the brain-suck. So I think in S6 it will be a good one again.
I realize that no actual logic is involved in this theory. But I'm sticking with it anyway.
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From the Cross & Stake Spoiler Board - NOTE that I said the Spoiler Board and not the website. These didn't come from AnGeL X. They are at this point unconfirmed... well, except for the one we already knew about from Dark Sheep Mysterioso.
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here are some things on 6.18:- Written by Drew Greenberg
- Xander and Anya have their first post-wedding run-in and things end up where Xander can't marry her so he tells her that they should break up
- After this conversation, Anya and Halfrek try to curse Xander, but fail because Anya doesn't mean it
- D'Hoffryn and Halfrek try to convince Anya to go vengeance demon
- Willow and Tara go for coffee where it deals with Willow's neck injury (6.17) and other Buffy related problems
- Buffy avoids Spike by putting spells on all of the places she loves not letting Spike in (5.14)
- The Troika concoct another scheme to kill the slayer, but this scheme may kill of one of the Troika prooving the real evil in the evil group.
- Xander goes through a break down not knowing if he can ever fall in love again and so does Anya
- Buffy tells the group about her and Spike and they get pretty mad (Dawn isn't involved in the conversation, but overhears at the stairs and pretends that she doesn't know!!)
Some of these things sound legit. Others sound kind of iffy. Personally, I think there's going to be more W/T in this episode than what is said here, but that's just me.
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Jen/Jennpurr,
The quote is from the W/T comic "Wanna Blessed Be" written in large part by Amber Benson herself.
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Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.
Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.
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The Rose, thank you for telling me. Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to read any of the comics. Maybe I can one of these days. Where can you buy them, anyway?
Thanks again,
Take care,
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Try here: www.tfaw.com Do a search for Buffy and comics.
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The Rose, Thank you for the link. I'll go check it out.
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quote:
Xander tells Anya he can't get married to her. He admits he has had fears for a long time. He doesn't want to make a mistake that will last forever. She walks away from him, stunned. Then he walks in the other direction. Anya returns to the guests. She looks absolutely heartbroken.
Well, since this eppy is finally coming up this week, I thought I might discuss it a bit. I'm really curious as to what the writers ultimately intend to do with Xander and Anya's relationship. Another spoiler (unconfirmed) said they break up completely after the wedding debacle. I haven't spent much time deeply analyzing X/A's relationship. I've never completely understood their attraction to one another. It always seemed to me that Anya just latched onto Xander and he, being bored and horny and single, went along for the, uh, ride. Does their relationship have any great "meaning" to anyone?
That said, I'm dreading seeing Anya literally left at the altar. When Anya discovered that Dawn was stealing from her in OAFA, I was surprised at how much her hurt expression moved me. I think that seeing her crushed on her wedding day is going to leave me devastated. Poor Anya. The good thing about this is that the criminally underused Emma Caulfield will have an opportunity to shine. I've become so impressed with her lately. She's terrific!
I'm glad we'll have lots of Willow and Tara goodness coming up to balance out the pain. (Not that X/A breaking up even slightly compares to W/T! I'm just a big softie and hate to see anyone in pain.)
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I wonder if Anya will have a Cordelia-like reaction to all the Scoobies and blame them for Xander's faults. I mean, Willow and Buffy never really seemed to accepted her anyway. I never thought the Xander/Anya wedding would go through, but it's terrible that Xander leaves her at the alter. That's just so mean.
That "spoiler" that says Xander is wondering if he can ever love again rings false in my ears. Why would Xander even be thinking about falling in love again after such a heartbreaking situation? It seems kind of shallow.
"Oh, I just broke the heart of the one person who ever loved me and left her at the alter. Can I ever love again?"
It just doesn't seem like something Xander would say. He'd probably think he doesn't *deserve* the love of anyone again. Or he'd probably not even want to think of the possiblity of loving again.
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quote:
Originally posted by Willowlicious:
I haven't spent much time deeply analyzing X/A's relationship. I've never completely understood their attraction to one another. It always seemed to me that Anya just latched onto Xander and he, being bored and horny and single, went along for the, uh, ride. Does their relationship have any great "meaning" to anyone?
I always thought they came together because it was convient, but then it developed into something more. In Hush, Xander beats up Spike because he thinks he bit Anya. In Into the Woods, he has that whole speech that he gives to Anya.
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Xander: I've gotta say something, 'cause I don't think I've made it clear. I'm in love with you. Powerfully, painfully in love. The things you do, the way you think, the way you move... I get excited every time I'm about to see you. You make me feel like I've never felt before in my life. Like a man. I just thought you might wanna know.
And he is the one that proposes to her in The Gift.
I just think he proposed to her because he was paniced about the world ending again and while he was scared, it seemed like a good idea at the time. Not that he didn't love her, but fear made him take that step just a bit too quickly.
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I have a question regarding recent spoilers. Since some of you seem to know quite a bit more about television production than I do, I thought I might ask it here.
I was reading an article recently about Jane Kaczmarek being unable to work for a couple of weeks, and how that would not affect her appearance in episodes because Malcolm films out of sequence. What I am wondering is if this ``out of sequence'' filming could apply to Buffy, specifically to Giles' return. The preliminary ``mini-spoilers'' list ASH as being in the next two eps, but other info seems to indicate otherwise, such as timing info (this article coupled with this post) and the fact that no one noticed he was in town. I was wondering if they could have filmed the Giles scenes at a later date for the two episodes, perhaps while 18 was filming.
Just curious.
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Thank you for the new thread Xita.
BTW I got an e-mail from Tensai/Spoiler Slayer stating he *is* giving Herc the credit for Asylum (now Normal Again). Personally I love the site but I hate the rankings - I mean you could have a paragraph of information from one source and then one from another, and it just depends how many spoilers you chop it into that gives it a different ranking.
Oh and I sooooo hope D-Sheep-M meant the ending to Episode 18 was related to W/T! Come back sheepy and tell us more *flutters eyelids* pleassssssssssse!
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posted February 27, 2002 04:34 Thank you for the new thread Xita.BTW I got an e-mail from Tensai/Spoiler Slayer stating he *is* giving Herc the credit for Asylum (now Normal Again). Personally I love the site but I hate the rankings - I mean you could have a paragraph of information from one source and then one from another, and it just depends how many spoilers you chop it into that gives it a different ranking.
Oh and I sooooo hope D-Sheep-M meant the ending to Episode 18 was related to W/T! Come back sheepy and tell us more *flutters eyelids* pleassssssssssse!
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Yeah thanks Xita for the new spoiler thread.
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Ooh, a shiny new spoiler thread.
I just found some new spoilers at the Cross & Stake - no idea as to their provenance, but I thought I'd share:
http://www.voy.com/13746/81272.html
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MAYHEM CAUSED. Monsters certainly not involved, officials say. - Headline on Xander's newspaper in 'OMWF'
TARA: Oh mah god, cuss it all t' tarnation. ah's cured! Fry mah hide! ah's hankerin' th' fellas! - Tara in 'speaks redneck' revelation.
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posted February 27, 2002 06:27 Ooh, a shiny new spoiler thread.I just found some new spoilers at the Cross & Stake - no idea as to their provenance, but I thought I'd share:
http://www.voy.com/13746/81272.html
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MAYHEM CAUSED. Monsters certainly not involved, officials say. - Headline on Xander's newspaper in 'OMWF'
TARA: Oh mah god, cuss it all t' tarnation. ah's cured! Fry mah hide! ah's hankerin' th' fellas! - Tara in 'speaks redneck' revelation.
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Thanks tyche. See, I'm still intrigued by this idea that Buffy saw her mother, or something resembling her mother when she was dead, and I'd sure like to know more about it.
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Registered: Oct 2001 posted February 27, 2002 12:07
So briefly.
Tara is in Episodes 16, 17 and 18.
Still unknown about 19, 20 and 21.
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posted February 27, 2002 12:07 So briefly.Tara is in Episodes 16, 17 and 18.
Still unknown about 19, 20 and 21.
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Registered: Jul 2001 posted February 27, 2002 12:18
I *think* Tara is in episode 19. I recall seeing something about her being on the set.
Of course if she isn't and is in a later episode I'll just say they postponed her appearance and I was never wrong so I still remain 100% accurate.
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posted February 27, 2002 12:18 I *think* Tara is in episode 19. I recall seeing something about her being on the set.Of course if she isn't and is in a later episode I'll just say they postponed her appearance and I was never wrong so I still remain 100% accurate.
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Registered: Jun 2001 posted February 27, 2002 12:21
I REALLY think Tara will be in more episodes than her original 16. Tara is too important to leave out of the final four. I am also sure The Scoobies will need Tara's magickal expertise at one point or another.
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Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.
Tara: Nobody messes with my girl!
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Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.
Tara: Nobody messes with my girl!
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Registered: Jan 2002 posted February 27, 2002 13:17
I personally see her being in 16-19, and 21-22. See, MN is writing 21 and she mentioned wanting to do a W/T make-up scene. So I put her in 21 so we can have a make-up game of shiver me timberless. And I just want her to be in the season finale. That would also make 18 eps, the same as last season, when she also had a 16-ep contract.
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Tara: Horsies!
Willow: Don't hit the horsies!
Buffy: We won't! (to giles) Aim for the horsies.
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posted February 27, 2002 13:17 I personally see her being in 16-19, and 21-22. See, MN is writing 21 and she mentioned wanting to do a W/T make-up scene. So I put her in 21 so we can have a make-up game of shiver me timberless. And I just want her to be in the season finale. That would also make 18 eps, the same as last season, when she also had a 16-ep contract.------------------
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Tara: Horsies!
Willow: Don't hit the horsies!
Buffy: We won't! (to giles) Aim for the horsies.
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Registered: Oct 2001 posted February 27, 2002 13:18
I too think that Tara will be in the final four episodes of this season. I'm looking forward to the wedding and the Tara/Willow moments in ep.18. Does anyone have anymore info about ep.18? How does it end with Willow/Tara? What are Buffy, Dawn, and Xanya doing in this episode? I hope these questions will soon be answered because I'm too eager to know the details.
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posted February 27, 2002 13:18 I too think that Tara will be in the final four episodes of this season. I'm looking forward to the wedding and the Tara/Willow moments in ep.18. Does anyone have anymore info about ep.18? How does it end with Willow/Tara? What are Buffy, Dawn, and Xanya doing in this episode? I hope these questions will soon be answered because I'm too eager to know the details.------------------
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted February 27, 2002 14:29
Can anyone tell me if there will be a new ep airing in the US on March 19th? I don't remember hearing that there would be, but I could be entirely wrong. (Being in the UK, I don't tend to take that much notice of these things.) It's just that my fiance will be in the UK with me from 10-23rd March, and he wants to sort out his taping in advance.
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posted February 27, 2002 14:29 Can anyone tell me if there will be a new ep airing in the US on March 19th? I don't remember hearing that there would be, but I could be entirely wrong. (Being in the UK, I don't tend to take that much notice of these things.) It's just that my fiance will be in the UK with me from 10-23rd March, and he wants to sort out his taping in advance.Cheers. IP: LoggedAutumnTSassy Eggs
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Registered: Jul 2001 posted February 27, 2002 14:40
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Originally posted by tyche:
Can anyone tell me if there will be a new ep airing in the US on March 19th
I really doubt it. I suspect the next new episode will land sometime in April for them to have enough all new Buffy for May sweeps.
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posted February 27, 2002 14:40quote:
Originally posted by tyche:
Can anyone tell me if there will be a new ep airing in the US on March 19th
I really doubt it. I suspect the next new episode will land sometime in April for them to have enough all new Buffy for May sweeps.
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Registered: Feb 2002 posted February 27, 2002 16:31
First off.... I am sooo HAPPY with the W/T spoilers. YAY!!!! I miss our girls.
The Rose, I was meaning to ask you.. in your sig, the first quote from Tara about her heart doesn't stutter.. what epi is that from?
Thanks in advance,
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posted February 27, 2002 16:31 First off.... I am sooo HAPPY with the W/T spoilers. YAY!!!! I miss our girls.The Rose, I was meaning to ask you.. in your sig, the first quote from Tara about her heart doesn't stutter.. what epi is that from?
Thanks in advance,
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Registered: Jan 2002 posted February 27, 2002 18:01
Where did Marti Noxon say that she wanted to write Willow and Tara's make-up scene? I must have missed that one.
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posted February 27, 2002 18:01 Where did Marti Noxon say that she wanted to write Willow and Tara's make-up scene? I must have missed that one.IP: LoggedDazeyGay Now! Posts: 1213
Registered: Mar 2001 posted February 27, 2002 20:05
Marti didn't say she wanted to write the reunion scene--there was a post in the last spoiler thread where someone quoted Marti as saying she wanted to write a romantic W/T scene that didn't involve magick or singing. If that's true...well, it's really great, isn't it?
Personally I think the reunion will come in Ep 19. Ep 19 is always a big W/T ep. In S4 it was NMR and despite the angst it ended with the best thing ever--W/T becoming a real couple. In S5 it was TL which was just horrible, with the fight and the brain-suck. So I think in S6 it will be a good one again.
I realize that no actual logic is involved in this theory. But I'm sticking with it anyway.
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posted February 27, 2002 20:05 Marti didn't say she wanted to write the reunion scene--there was a post in the last spoiler thread where someone quoted Marti as saying she wanted to write a romantic W/T scene that didn't involve magick or singing. If that's true...well, it's really great, isn't it?Personally I think the reunion will come in Ep 19. Ep 19 is always a big W/T ep. In S4 it was NMR and despite the angst it ended with the best thing ever--W/T becoming a real couple. In S5 it was TL which was just horrible, with the fight and the brain-suck. So I think in S6 it will be a good one again.
I realize that no actual logic is involved in this theory. But I'm sticking with it anyway.
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted February 27, 2002 21:50
From the Cross & Stake Spoiler Board - NOTE that I said the Spoiler Board and not the website. These didn't come from AnGeL X. They are at this point unconfirmed... well, except for the one we already knew about from Dark Sheep Mysterioso.
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here are some things on 6.18:- Written by Drew Greenberg
- Xander and Anya have their first post-wedding run-in and things end up where Xander can't marry her so he tells her that they should break up
- After this conversation, Anya and Halfrek try to curse Xander, but fail because Anya doesn't mean it
- D'Hoffryn and Halfrek try to convince Anya to go vengeance demon
- Willow and Tara go for coffee where it deals with Willow's neck injury (6.17) and other Buffy related problems
- Buffy avoids Spike by putting spells on all of the places she loves not letting Spike in (5.14)
- The Troika concoct another scheme to kill the slayer, but this scheme may kill of one of the Troika prooving the real evil in the evil group.
- Xander goes through a break down not knowing if he can ever fall in love again and so does Anya
- Buffy tells the group about her and Spike and they get pretty mad (Dawn isn't involved in the conversation, but overhears at the stairs and pretends that she doesn't know!!)
Some of these things sound legit. Others sound kind of iffy. Personally, I think there's going to be more W/T in this episode than what is said here, but that's just me.
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posted February 27, 2002 21:50 From the Cross & Stake Spoiler Board - NOTE that I said the Spoiler Board and not the website. These didn't come from AnGeL X. They are at this point unconfirmed... well, except for the one we already knew about from Dark Sheep Mysterioso.
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here are some things on 6.18:- Written by Drew Greenberg
- Xander and Anya have their first post-wedding run-in and things end up where Xander can't marry her so he tells her that they should break up
- After this conversation, Anya and Halfrek try to curse Xander, but fail because Anya doesn't mean it
- D'Hoffryn and Halfrek try to convince Anya to go vengeance demon
- Willow and Tara go for coffee where it deals with Willow's neck injury (6.17) and other Buffy related problems
- Buffy avoids Spike by putting spells on all of the places she loves not letting Spike in (5.14)
- The Troika concoct another scheme to kill the slayer, but this scheme may kill of one of the Troika prooving the real evil in the evil group.
- Xander goes through a break down not knowing if he can ever fall in love again and so does Anya
- Buffy tells the group about her and Spike and they get pretty mad (Dawn isn't involved in the conversation, but overhears at the stairs and pretends that she doesn't know!!)
Some of these things sound legit. Others sound kind of iffy. Personally, I think there's going to be more W/T in this episode than what is said here, but that's just me.
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Registered: Jun 2001 posted February 27, 2002 22:09
Jen/Jennpurr,
The quote is from the W/T comic "Wanna Blessed Be" written in large part by Amber Benson herself.
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Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.
Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.
Tara: Nobody messes with my girl!
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posted February 27, 2002 22:09 Jen/Jennpurr,The quote is from the W/T comic "Wanna Blessed Be" written in large part by Amber Benson herself.
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Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.
Tara: Nobody messes with my girl!
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Registered: Feb 2002 posted February 27, 2002 23:00
The Rose, thank you for telling me. Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to read any of the comics. Maybe I can one of these days. Where can you buy them, anyway?
Thanks again,
Take care,
Jen
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posted February 27, 2002 23:00 The Rose, thank you for telling me. Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to read any of the comics. Maybe I can one of these days. Where can you buy them, anyway?Thanks again,
Take care,
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Registered: Jun 2001 posted February 27, 2002 23:24
Try here: www.tfaw.com Do a search for Buffy and comics.
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Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
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Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.
Tara: Nobody messes with my girl!
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Registered: Feb 2002 posted February 28, 2002 01:15
The Rose, Thank you for the link. I'll go check it out.
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Registered: Oct 2001 posted February 28, 2002 01:57
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Xander tells Anya he can't get married to her. He admits he has had fears for a long time. He doesn't want to make a mistake that will last forever. She walks away from him, stunned. Then he walks in the other direction. Anya returns to the guests. She looks absolutely heartbroken.
Well, since this eppy is finally coming up this week, I thought I might discuss it a bit. I'm really curious as to what the writers ultimately intend to do with Xander and Anya's relationship. Another spoiler (unconfirmed) said they break up completely after the wedding debacle. I haven't spent much time deeply analyzing X/A's relationship. I've never completely understood their attraction to one another. It always seemed to me that Anya just latched onto Xander and he, being bored and horny and single, went along for the, uh, ride. Does their relationship have any great "meaning" to anyone?
That said, I'm dreading seeing Anya literally left at the altar. When Anya discovered that Dawn was stealing from her in OAFA, I was surprised at how much her hurt expression moved me. I think that seeing her crushed on her wedding day is going to leave me devastated. Poor Anya. The good thing about this is that the criminally underused Emma Caulfield will have an opportunity to shine. I've become so impressed with her lately. She's terrific!
I'm glad we'll have lots of Willow and Tara goodness coming up to balance out the pain. (Not that X/A breaking up even slightly compares to W/T! I'm just a big softie and hate to see anyone in pain.)
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posted February 28, 2002 01:57quote:
Xander tells Anya he can't get married to her. He admits he has had fears for a long time. He doesn't want to make a mistake that will last forever. She walks away from him, stunned. Then he walks in the other direction. Anya returns to the guests. She looks absolutely heartbroken.
Well, since this eppy is finally coming up this week, I thought I might discuss it a bit. I'm really curious as to what the writers ultimately intend to do with Xander and Anya's relationship. Another spoiler (unconfirmed) said they break up completely after the wedding debacle. I haven't spent much time deeply analyzing X/A's relationship. I've never completely understood their attraction to one another. It always seemed to me that Anya just latched onto Xander and he, being bored and horny and single, went along for the, uh, ride. Does their relationship have any great "meaning" to anyone?
That said, I'm dreading seeing Anya literally left at the altar. When Anya discovered that Dawn was stealing from her in OAFA, I was surprised at how much her hurt expression moved me. I think that seeing her crushed on her wedding day is going to leave me devastated. Poor Anya. The good thing about this is that the criminally underused Emma Caulfield will have an opportunity to shine. I've become so impressed with her lately. She's terrific!
I'm glad we'll have lots of Willow and Tara goodness coming up to balance out the pain. (Not that X/A breaking up even slightly compares to W/T! I'm just a big softie and hate to see anyone in pain.)
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Registered: Feb 2002 posted February 28, 2002 02:21
I wonder if Anya will have a Cordelia-like reaction to all the Scoobies and blame them for Xander's faults. I mean, Willow and Buffy never really seemed to accepted her anyway. I never thought the Xander/Anya wedding would go through, but it's terrible that Xander leaves her at the alter. That's just so mean.
That "spoiler" that says Xander is wondering if he can ever love again rings false in my ears. Why would Xander even be thinking about falling in love again after such a heartbreaking situation? It seems kind of shallow.
"Oh, I just broke the heart of the one person who ever loved me and left her at the alter. Can I ever love again?"
It just doesn't seem like something Xander would say. He'd probably think he doesn't *deserve* the love of anyone again. Or he'd probably not even want to think of the possiblity of loving again.
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posted February 28, 2002 02:21 I wonder if Anya will have a Cordelia-like reaction to all the Scoobies and blame them for Xander's faults. I mean, Willow and Buffy never really seemed to accepted her anyway. I never thought the Xander/Anya wedding would go through, but it's terrible that Xander leaves her at the alter. That's just so mean.That "spoiler" that says Xander is wondering if he can ever love again rings false in my ears. Why would Xander even be thinking about falling in love again after such a heartbreaking situation? It seems kind of shallow.
"Oh, I just broke the heart of the one person who ever loved me and left her at the alter. Can I ever love again?"
It just doesn't seem like something Xander would say. He'd probably think he doesn't *deserve* the love of anyone again. Or he'd probably not even want to think of the possiblity of loving again.
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posted February 28, 2002 03:06 A warning, any future Tara/death willow/big bad rumor, question will be deleted/edited and answered by email. If you spot one, don't reply, contact one of the moderators by mail or yahooIP: LoggedThanatopsisDoll's Eye Crystal Posts: 76
Registered: Jan 2002 posted February 28, 2002 03:08
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Originally posted by Willowlicious:
I haven't spent much time deeply analyzing X/A's relationship. I've never completely understood their attraction to one another. It always seemed to me that Anya just latched onto Xander and he, being bored and horny and single, went along for the, uh, ride. Does their relationship have any great "meaning" to anyone?
I always thought they came together because it was convient, but then it developed into something more. In Hush, Xander beats up Spike because he thinks he bit Anya. In Into the Woods, he has that whole speech that he gives to Anya.
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Xander: I've gotta say something, 'cause I don't think I've made it clear. I'm in love with you. Powerfully, painfully in love. The things you do, the way you think, the way you move... I get excited every time I'm about to see you. You make me feel like I've never felt before in my life. Like a man. I just thought you might wanna know.
And he is the one that proposes to her in The Gift.
I just think he proposed to her because he was paniced about the world ending again and while he was scared, it seemed like a good idea at the time. Not that he didn't love her, but fear made him take that step just a bit too quickly.
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posted February 28, 2002 03:08quote:
Originally posted by Willowlicious:
I haven't spent much time deeply analyzing X/A's relationship. I've never completely understood their attraction to one another. It always seemed to me that Anya just latched onto Xander and he, being bored and horny and single, went along for the, uh, ride. Does their relationship have any great "meaning" to anyone?
I always thought they came together because it was convient, but then it developed into something more. In Hush, Xander beats up Spike because he thinks he bit Anya. In Into the Woods, he has that whole speech that he gives to Anya.
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Xander: I've gotta say something, 'cause I don't think I've made it clear. I'm in love with you. Powerfully, painfully in love. The things you do, the way you think, the way you move... I get excited every time I'm about to see you. You make me feel like I've never felt before in my life. Like a man. I just thought you might wanna know.
And he is the one that proposes to her in The Gift.
I just think he proposed to her because he was paniced about the world ending again and while he was scared, it seemed like a good idea at the time. Not that he didn't love her, but fear made him take that step just a bit too quickly.
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Registered: Jan 2002 posted February 28, 2002 03:08
I have a question regarding recent spoilers. Since some of you seem to know quite a bit more about television production than I do, I thought I might ask it here.
I was reading an article recently about Jane Kaczmarek being unable to work for a couple of weeks, and how that would not affect her appearance in episodes because Malcolm films out of sequence. What I am wondering is if this ``out of sequence'' filming could apply to Buffy, specifically to Giles' return. The preliminary ``mini-spoilers'' list ASH as being in the next two eps, but other info seems to indicate otherwise, such as timing info (this article coupled with this post) and the fact that no one noticed he was in town. I was wondering if they could have filmed the Giles scenes at a later date for the two episodes, perhaps while 18 was filming.
Just curious.
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posted February 28, 2002 03:08 I have a question regarding recent spoilers. Since some of you seem to know quite a bit more about television production than I do, I thought I might ask it here.I was reading an article recently about Jane Kaczmarek being unable to work for a couple of weeks, and how that would not affect her appearance in episodes because Malcolm films out of sequence. What I am wondering is if this ``out of sequence'' filming could apply to Buffy, specifically to Giles' return. The preliminary ``mini-spoilers'' list ASH as being in the next two eps, but other info seems to indicate otherwise, such as timing info (this article coupled with this post) and the fact that no one noticed he was in town. I was wondering if they could have filmed the Giles scenes at a later date for the two episodes, perhaps while 18 was filming.
Just curious.
