vampwillow:an opinion thread

[slayer747]

i agree with killin joke, tara is not all judgey... but, yeah... coming to think of it, do you think tara finds willow in leather sexy as hell, 'cause, i do...

[Epicurus]

What I really liked about VampWillow was the fact that they used that character as a way to make Aly play evil without making Willow evil. They didnt need some stupid clichd death in order to flex Alys acting muscles.
VampWillow had Willows face and the gang all thought she was dead and vamped that itself was enough of the [b:205df95206]Realism of Willows Darkness [/b:205df95206] that I needed to see.

[neroden1]

my favorite VampWillow bit is when she wakes up wearing RealWillow's clothes...

Alyson plays her "This is a nightmare" bit really well, and we really see how very not-Willow she is.

[Killin Joke]

Exactly, Epicurus ! It's the best of both worlds, without the confusion... I mean: the Willow character isn't conflicted.

[relativegirl]

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Do you think Tara would have liked the outfit? I mean when Willow was disguised as VampWillow if Tara had been at the Bronze instead of Oz (Because for some reason she came to Sunnydale earlier) would Tara have 'appreciated' that look on Willow?

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If Tara saw Willow disguised as VampWillow, the only words that would tumble out of Tara's mouth before falling to the floor with a thud would be: "Evil's . . . Good."

Then, after that night at the Bronze, whenever Willow's parents would go out of town Willow would ask Tara if she wanted to spend the night. And Tara would teasingly inquire whether spending the night meant there were going to be "outfits". Willow would feign innocence, then make Tara beg. Just a little. But ultimately, there would [i:87a5001fb0] always[/i:87a5001fb0] be outfits.

Or maybe I'm projecting.

[Penrose Orleans]

No, if you're projecting, then it's for all of us! Sigh... 'evil chic' is good...

[lucifuge25]

I liked VampWillow because she was the antithesis of Willow (with the exception of the lesbian angle.) Loved the neck licking and how she was a little mad too. Kinda like Drusilla but not all the way.
In truth, I don't think Tara would have been o.k. with VampWillow. True, she's not a judgemental kind of person, but her wisdom and common sense are strong enough for her not to be swayed by VampWillow wrapped in leather...
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"Omnia Mutantur, Nihil Inherit (Everything Changes, but Nothing is Truly Lost.)"

[Sheridan]

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Then, after that night at the Bronze, whenever Willow's parents would go out of town Willow would ask Tara if she wanted to spend the night. And Tara would teasingly inquire whether spending the night meant there were going to be "outfits". Willow would feign innocence, then make Tara beg. Just a little. But ultimately, there would always be outfits

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Actually even before I raised the question I had already worked [i:2fbb5d2f77] that[/i:2fbb5d2f77] outfit in to the outline of one of my 'Reality Check' stories.

[Killin Joke]

Actually, we were talking about how Tara would react to Willow disguised as VampWill, lucifuge25 Of course she would try to resist VampWill's charms as soon as she'd realize it wasn't her Willow... Of course, the other way around... Tara's neck wouldn't stand a change

[Sheridan]

Hmm, if VampWillow saw Tara that would probably be enough to restart her heart right there and then. Mind you if Willow saw her working Tara's neck she would probably dust her doppleganger there and then.

[Killin Joke]

Willow and VampTara should plan a scheme to ressurect their counterparts... Then again, VampTara might like what she sees and just turn Willow faster than she could say "Your - whoa, that's a lot of cleavage - shirt"... Ah well, EvilWillow, VampWillow... The only thing that can bring "our" sweet Willow back, is the real Tara, huh.

[Lindy]

As others pointed out already I am not fond of VW anymore, because she appearently was the reason why Joss had this strange idea of making Willow evil.

Well, VW rocked because she wasn't Willow, but looked like her. I used to love The Wish and Doppelgngerland (who didn't).. that was before the season 6 story arc did unfold itself. Now all that is left when I watch older episodes is a bad and bitter aftertaste. VampWillow was cool the way she was. But she was soulless. And Willow was always full of life and soul. The writers obviously didn't get that right this season.

That reminds me of my friend, who is a huge Spike fan. I was watching Seeing Red and Villains with her this week, and it was interesting to see her reactions. She was more then disturbed. And when she asked what was going to happen in the episodes to follow I was trying to explain the plot as objective as possible to see how she reacts and she said "What? Willow is going to do what? I mean, ok, she kills Warren, I understand that, but going up against her friends? That's not Willow." Then she was complaining that a Spike with a soul is no Spike anymore and that she doesn't see why they distroy 3 characters all at once. Oh, and she was highly amused about the coven, a witchy Giles and world saving Xander aswell.. amused in an ironic "what bullshit" kinda way.

Sorry, I got slightly off topic.. oopsie.

[lucifuge25]

Oh, I'm sorry for the spaz, I guess my mind was off a bit...

Altogether though, I think Tara would have been amused to see Willow in VampWillow's garb. I'm not implying that Tara would have liked to play "Mistress of Pain" with Willow but that, Tara would have probably just smiled at Willow in a non-dismissive manner.
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"Omnia Mutantur, Nihil Inherit (Everything Changes, but Nothing is Truly Lost.)"

[Sheridan]

Thinking of Tara's reaction to the outfit I had in mind the gangs reaction to Wilow in that outfit, "Gosh look at those", and I'm sure Tara would have.

[Killin Joke]

No sweat, lucifuge Yep, I also think Tara would give her one of her typical teasing smiles

[slayer747]

and after the typical teasing smiles... where do you think they'd go, exactly?

[Wiccagrrl313]

At one point I really, really liked VW. She was fun. But as others have said, she was fun because she wasn't *our* Willow. Like so many other things, VW is one aspect of the show that used to be fun, but now, after S6, just has too much baggage attached.

[Vampire Willow]

Hmmmm. The leather was nummy and the licking I think that explains it. Also the "Im a big bad-ass" tude helped emphasize that. And it made it WAYYYYYY more fun to watch. "Bored now" In any other circunstance we would have looked at that and said "Damn she's just lazy". But because she gave off the bad-ass vibe it came off as chilling and just plain cool . But hey what do I know? I just use her name.

~Willow

[Yelowsub]

I think that I'm with everyone here.

Vamp Willow is leather=Good
Vamp Willow in leather and licking=VERY GOOD

It was just so hot how she took charge and was all rough and ...Sorry I'm back now. It was just a great way to set the ground work for W/T. And non-vamp face was the best way to go.

I also love when she does tv interviews and talks about the fake breasts. It's just so hilarsious.

[Arafel the Witch]

Re: Willow going against Buffy and Xander.

I've thought a lot about this one. The only reason it happened is Buffy and Xander and company tried to stop Willow from going after Warren's accomplices. Under many a state law, Jonathan and the other one would be held responsible for much of what Warren had done, since they helped him plan it and encouraged him. Not to mention all three were guilty of manslaughter and covering it up. I think the whole Willow vs. the Scooby thing can be worked out without too much difficulty. The question I see is whether Willow can learn to control her magic and still use it. I didn't like recovery Willow, sans magic. I want her to still be powerful, to be Buffy's ally, like Buffy pointed out in the Gift.

[Sheridan]

Uh [b:91b33731ca] Arafel[/b:91b33731ca] what exactly does that have to do with VampWillow?

[Killin Joke]

He, he, does it matter where W/T go, Slayer747 ?

[slayer747]

kinda. i like having visuals from other perspectives aside my own...

[Killin Joke]

LOL Ah, I see... Well, if you put it that way... Hmm, maybe a dark corner of some obscure gothic caf... Somewhere they'd normally not dare to go... Ask Ruth, she's the expert concerning locations: she can make any boring setting look hot

[slayer747]

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[b:2455d3c246] she can make any boring setting look hot [/b:2455d3c246]

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yup, ruth does that...she's so great at it... so great that sometimes i get hot in the middle of my Physics 51 class.

[the vamp nurd]

Vamp Willow was great! Doppelgangerland brillant!
*wonders if she isn't the only kitten that likes the scene where Vamp Willow says "Wanna be bad." and willow's "Does that mean we have to snuggle?"*
*shrugs and wanders back to her room to write more of her fan fic [vamp Willow's back with a puppy, and she wants to take W/T back with her]*
The vamp Nurd founder of the cult of W/T/VW fanfic.
"bitch."
Lick.
"I like it when you play rough."
[Vw to her puppy, my own fan fic]