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If you are Joss.....how would you end buffy?

Postby Penrose Orleans » Sat Jun 15, 2002 7:30 am

Maybe Buffy + Faith = Super slayer!!! No, never mind, I forgot-- "Faith is evil... murder is evil... magic is evil... everything is black and white..." *snore*
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If you are Joss.....how would you end buffy?

Postby 2trew » Sat Jun 15, 2002 9:19 am

Gee, if I was Joss... let's see.

I'd open with Dawn being threatened with rape and called a bitch by a gang of demons. Then Spike, dressed only in a jock strap, would show up and drive them off. He'd take Dawn home where Buffy, dressed in a french maid's uniform to reflect her new vocation as full time homemaker, would deliver a speech about the danger of females leaving the house unaccompanied. Xander and Anya would come over, fighting about Anya having been late with Xander's breakfast beer. He'd slap her and call her a bitch, she'd beg for one more chance, and everyone would laugh. Then Buffy would deliver an inspirational speech about how important it is to always realize that your man is always right. Xander and Anya would exit, with her revealing her plans to slice the limes right this time for his lunchtime bottle of tequila.

The doorbell rings. Willow comes rushing downstairs and opens it. A beautiful woman, Tara's cousin Sara, is standing there. She asks if Willow is ready for their date. Willow says yes, and reaches for her hand. A meteor rips through the ceiling, instantly vaporising both of them. Buffy delivers an inspirational speech on how you should never give in to unnatural desires. Spike objects, saying that he has a great fondness for unnatural desires, but Buffy points out that there's nothing unnatural about pleasing your man. They send Dawn upstairs to do her homework, and engage in violent acrobatic sex for the next forty minutes.

The doorbell rings again. When Buffy opens it, we see Larry and Principle Sneider walking past on the sidewalk, but there's nobody there. Suddenly, Jenny Calendar jumps out of the bushes with an AK 47. She has the severed heads of Anya and Xander dangling from her belt. She says "I bet you forgot about me", and shoots Buffy alot. Then she walks calmly away. Spike remarks on what a bitch she was, and yells up for Dawn to pack so they can get on the road to their spinoff.

Sure, there may be some problems with the characterization and continuity, but what else is new? Besides, I've always wanted to see Jenny Calendar holding an automatic weapon with some severed heads dangling from her belt. It's cool and funny.
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Postby Penrose Orleans » Sat Jun 15, 2002 9:45 am

Hmmm... maybe a little much for TV (oh well!) ... on the other hand, I have to object to Willow going on a date-- NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! WOULDN'T HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!! *hysteria over*

All I want is to see Buffy happier and with more perspective, Spike back to his evil self, and Xander taken down a peg (or 47)... is that too much to ask??? :)
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Postby Killin Joke » Sat Jun 15, 2002 9:50 am

Ah, "The Taming of the Shrew"... /shakes herself/ Nevermind. Bitter baby... Gotta get out of exam-mode /sips from wine/ Jenny goes Rambo: all for it, but could she blow Spike's head off ? Please, pretty please ?
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If you are Joss.....how would you end buffy?

Postby 2trew » Sat Jun 15, 2002 9:54 am

Well, she could, but that would be giving you what you want. Besides, we have to keep the spinoff in mind.
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Postby Killin Joke » Sat Jun 15, 2002 10:05 am

/chuckle/ Ooh, Dawnie, our little girl, all grown up... Ah well, since she's considered to be the defender of our cute cuddly lesbian couple, I can live with that... She's gonna need a good Scooby Gang to back her up though... W/T ! (I don't care how the hell, heaven, whatever they do it...)
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Postby urnofosiris » Sat Jun 15, 2002 10:13 am

Thanks for the laugh 2threw. :grin

This part especially:

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The doorbell rings. Willow comes rushing downstairs and opens it. A beautiful woman, Tara's cousin Sara, is standing there. She asks if Willow is ready for their date. Willow says yes, and reaches for her hand. A meteor rips through the ceiling, instantly vaporising both of them. Buffy delivers an inspirational speech on how you should never give in to unnatural desires

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:laugh
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Postby Mara » Sat Jun 15, 2002 12:34 pm

Well.... The time-travelling becoming a usual thing would be easily solved by making it only possible through a magical device (in Dragonlance that happened) that could easily be destroyed in the end of the 'bring Tara from the past back alive to the present' thing. :)

It might give an interesting episode. I've seen the Star Trek time-travel episodes and movies and I must say all of them (except the 'Voyager' ones) were cool. :)
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Postby Sheridan » Sat Jun 15, 2002 12:52 pm

Well in my vision of how things end up somewhere around 2020 Buffy is doing the suburban mom thing with a couple of teenage children. After Fatih died A new slayer was called. Dawn Willow and Tara are acting as Scooby gang/watchers to the new slayer, who is the one who finally puts an end to the dark forces, the new slayer has both slayer power and exceptional Wicca talents. I haven't read 'Fray', so I didn't know aboutJoss' final battle until it was mentioned here.
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Postby VampiraJen » Sat Jun 15, 2002 1:53 pm

hey, some of the voyager ones were okay, well the one where they go back to 1996 was shite, but the one where seven went back in time to before the first episode, and we saw her without all her borg stuff..*drools all over the keyboard*...god, jeri ryan is sexy as hell...
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Postby Penrose Orleans » Sat Jun 15, 2002 2:20 pm

Agreed and then some, Vampira!!! :drool As a hard-core Trekkie, I stuck with Voyager through its darkest days, but Jeri Ryan really pulled it through... kinda like W/T has for Buffy.. have you seen her on Boston Public?
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Postby xita » Sat Jun 15, 2002 3:29 pm

[b:316eea2ec1] 2trew[/b:316eea2ec1] Are you joss ?? You should be writing for buffy :laugh
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Postby Penrose Orleans » Sat Jun 15, 2002 4:37 pm

Yes, 'cause we've esablished that violence is 'better' than sex, and since there's violence but not sex in the plot, it'll be PERFECT for TV! :grin
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If you are Joss.....how would you end buffy?

Postby 2trew » Sat Jun 15, 2002 11:23 pm

I realize that your question was asked in fun, but I must object to being asked if I am Joss. That's just a level or two beyond the limits of civilized discourse. I don't deserve that kind of villification. (A technically savvy person would insert a smiley here to indicate that I'm being friendly and kidding.)

I would love to write for Buffy. I have a wonderful story arc. The season opens with this shot: it's Spike, standing and looking out at Sunnydale (any resemblance to his soliloquy just before he was captured by the Initiative is purely intentional) and saying "Well, Slayer, I'm back, and I said you were going to get what you deserved, and you are. I'm gonna..." PHWOOSH, Spike is dusted. As he dissipates in the wind, we see Andrew standing behind him with a stake.

Cut to the "Previously, on Buffy the Vampire Slayer" bit, and into a regular episode, in which Anya makes a change that ONLY brings Tara back, no more changes to the universe, Spike still getting on people's windshields, and we get the last two minutes of Entropy and the first forty minutes of Seeing Red all over again. DeKnight is brought back from Angel to give his particular version of an interview on the Succubus Club, treating the outraged Spuffies to all the sympathy he showed the Kittens. Whedon is interviewed and says that JM will be back, but Spike won't. A week later, Marti Noxious is interviewed, and says that Spike will be back, but JM won't. Most fans don't take that too seriously, since she's fired the next day.

Spike is not mentioned on screen again for the next 20 episodes. Clem gets a lot of time, and the Scoobs go back to being the people we watched the show for. Many, many conservative groups complain that BTvS has become nothing more than softcore lesbian porn due to the amount of W/T steaminess that dominates the show. Firefly is taken off the air after three episodes.

While all this is happening, of course, dilligent Kittens who shall remain nameless (me alone if necessary) are cruising the Buffy boards on the internet and registering the shock and horror with which Spike's demise is greeted. Every time we find a post about that, we dig out what that individual had to say about Tara's death and change the name Tara to Spike and post the entire quote, including the nick of the original poster, as a reply.

The second to last episode of the season is pretty much all Willow and Tara's wedding, with Willow's new employer, a massive tech firm that's just offered her a ridiculous salary and a lot of stock options, footing the bill. We last see our girls waving from the corporate jet as they wing their way to Bali for their honeymoon. Miss Kitty Fantastico, it turns out, had been living on the plane as a mascot for the last couple of years.

In the last two minutes of the final episode of the season (the Big Bad turned out to be the Fear Demon, the whole arc was handled in 30 seconds with him appearing and Clem accidentally squishing him), the doorbell rings at casa Summers. Buffy answers it, and we see Johnathan standing there. She asks what he's doing there. He replies "Don't you recognize me, pet? It's me, Spike".

As an aside, Angel has wrapped up its last season in a fully satisfactory manner. I know that may be off topic (like the whole post isn't, but I was replying to xita, so I'm relying on a technicality here) but given what comes in the next paragraph and liking that show I want at least one more happy ending.

Whedon, obviously much the worse for drink, appears on the Succubus Club. He swears by all he holds holy (according to Producer Ethan, later on, that appeared to be the bottle of Thunderbird he was waving around during the vow) that he'll explain it all next season, which will be the best season ever, Spuffy goodness all around, because he's learned his lesson about killing off important characters and he's got nothing else to do but concentrate on BtVS. He mentions many times that he's planned Spike's death since the week before he started writing the first season.

A week later, UPN announces that they're not picking up BtVS. Their bid for Gilmore Girls is rejected.
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If you are Joss.....how would you end buffy?

Postby tommo » Sun Jun 16, 2002 3:01 am

Soon. Very, very soon.
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Postby Penrose Orleans » Sun Jun 16, 2002 4:02 am

If only the show really went that way... you see, I think that a band of rabid squirrels could do the writin job we've seen from Joss lately... if only we had a real person doing it!
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Postby AutumnT » Sun Jun 16, 2002 12:01 pm

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Spike is not mentioned on screen again for the next 20 episodes. Clem gets a lot of time, and the Scoobs go back to being the people we watched the show for. Many, many conservative groups complain that BTvS has become nothing more than softcore lesbian porn due to the amount of W/T steaminess that dominates the show.
[/quote:f5d3dde2be] Sign me up. 2trew you nailed it.
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Postby WilTaraFan » Sun Jun 16, 2002 12:22 pm

Have Willow use a spell to go back in time to just after Buffy's death and warn the past Willow about everything she'll eventually do and give her a chance to change history. Meaning, don't bring Buffy back, don't descend into using magic for everything, DON'T PUT A SPELL ON YOUR TARE BEAR, and don't let Warren, Jonathan and Andrew do everything they did.

Kudos!!!
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Postby Sheridan » Sun Jun 16, 2002 12:44 pm

[b:9796352b84] WilTaraFan[/b:9796352b84] problem is that if she doesn't bring Buffy back then when the biker gang finds out about the robot theres no one to turn the tide in the fight against them, not to mention that all the info would be rendered irrelevant as soon as she changed anything.

Ooh, I'm a Vixen now. One of my favourite Tara lines. :)
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Postby AmbersSecretAdmirer » Mon Jun 17, 2002 6:00 am

Okay, first of all I would bring back Tara, and I think I can do it in a dramatic way that "helps the storyline".

The Hellmouth is about to rupture. True evil is about to unleash it's forces to finally take over the mortal plane. The Powers that Be require all the help they can muster. Buffy will need a full-time sorceror'sorceress, someone she trusts unconditionally, to help guide them and act as the Powers' emissary.

Willow has not recovered from Tara's death and her revenge against Warren. Giles realises that Tara's death has killed part of Willow too. This part of Willow has gone with Tara to heaven, they presume, but it has a dangerous side-effect. The soul is not meant to be ripped and it will try to bring the two halves together. As the part that is with Tara is content, it means the part still inside Willow will want to join her and as such Willow is placed on 24-hour suicide watch. Giles uses an ancient tome to contact Tara to tell her of Willow's pain and begs her too release Willow's soul. The Powers intervene, knowing Buffy is distracted by concern for her friend and release Tara to heal and stand with her lover and to be their emissary for the battle ahead. A battle that should end with Sunnydale being destroyed.

As for individual episodes, I'd love to see one where Dawn casts a spell to memorise a Shakespear play but it goes awry and the whole of Sunnydale start speaking in Shaekspearean prose.

Also! Spike has to die. It's time to balance the books.
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Postby Hemiola » Mon Jun 17, 2002 7:07 am

Oooooo, ASA, I'd [i:aead2cf665] love[/i:aead2cf665] to see a "Shakespearean" episode done in the manner of "OMWF":) . It could go something like this--

Buffy: Thou black-liver'd bat! I shall spit thee like a roast boar!
Vampire: Arrant slip of a girl! Think'st thou shalt stake me? Fie on thee and thy knavish tricks!
Buffy (stakes vamp): Zounds! I shall hence away, and betake me home anon.

It could be a lot funnier than the Willis/Shepard attempt at the same thing.
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Postby AmbersSecretAdmirer » Mon Jun 17, 2002 7:40 am

Shakespeare can be gloriously romantic. Imagine what Willow could say in a speech to the recently returned Tara.

Poetry far more fitting to their beautiful love than William the Bloody "having a bulge in it".
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Postby tyche » Mon Jun 17, 2002 8:23 am

A Shakespearean Buffy episode, with apologies to Mr Shakespeare (and Cole Porter):
Spike [to Buffy]: Hello, luv, fancy a shag?
Buffy: Sod off, thy black-hearted varlet! [Stakes him]

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Anya: Curses be upon the carpenter!
May his manhood be cursed
with many additional diseases
other than those of the Shumash tribe.
Xander: But, sweet, can't I get by on my charm and good looks?
Anya: Frankly, no. [Casts vengeance spell]
Remove his loathsome manhood immediately!
[Xander's penis is replaced by a bunny.]
Anya: Most disturbing sight! Get me to a nunnery! [Runs away screaming]

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Giles: Hang on a second, I'm English, shouldn't I be involved in this? Surely Shakespeare is my forte?
Rest of cast: The not-so-almighty creator
assures us that he is now ever so keen
to avoid stereotypes. At least until
the next time he feels the need
to kill someone pointlessly.
Buffy: Thy tea and scones are over there, tweedmeister.
[Giles drinks tea, looking puzzled]
Xander: If thou art lucky, thou may be able to get a recurring role on 'Firefly'.
Giles: And if I am not?
Xander: Thou mightst end up with a small furry penis.
Giles: But has not thy penis always been that way?
[Xander wanders off, actuely embarrassed. Giles goes back to his tea.]

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Willow [singing]: Brush up your Shakespeare
Start learning him now
Tara [singing]: Brush up your Shakespeare
And the women you will wow. (They kiss)
Willow: A rose by any other name would float as well.
Tara: But a Willow by any other name would not kiss as well.
My lips could not bear the taste of anyone but thine.
Willow: Your lips....
Tara: My lips.... are yours, lady. As is my heart.
Willow: You know my heart is yours also. [sighs]
Tara: But why do you sigh so?
Willow: I must go and babysit yonder brat.
[Dawn appears]
Tara: No brat, surely, but a young, innocent girl.
Willow: Young, 'tis true. Innocent, sadly not.
I must go.
Tara: I will wait upon your return. Every minute will be as a month. [They kiss]
Willow: Look not unhappy; but rather, glad, that the Slayer trusts me thus.
Tara: My mistress says happy; I shall be happy.
I shall .. embroider something. [She digs around in a drawer and finds her embroidery. We can just make out the phrase 'Lesbian witches rocketh muchly'.]
Dawn: I fell asleep during my homework again, didn't I?
Willow: Dammit, we had some really nice iambic pentameters going there, girly!

The End
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Postby Killin Joke » Mon Jun 17, 2002 8:29 am

ROTFLMAO! After my Shakespeare exam a couple of days ago, this really is a treat ;)
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Postby Penrose Orleans » Mon Jun 17, 2002 8:59 am

And they could pull a 'King Lear' on Spike: "Out, vile jelly!" (plucks out eye)

Or perhaps: SPIKE: "Sick, O sick!"
BUFFY: "Else I'll ne'er trust medicine/poison" (depends on edition) Aaaah, for the wonders of the Bard... *sighs wistfully*
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Postby slayer747 » Fri Jun 21, 2002 7:06 pm

the same goes for me, make willow g back in time... the ep where she did the "forget" spell on tara, and i will make her not do it. i mean, that's where it all started, in my opinion.
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