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Nov Diva Magazine

Postby MaClayMagic » Mon Oct 14, 2002 2:59 am

You can't miss this one! A new design, gold in cover and in big letters "Love Equals Death, no happy ending for Buffy's Tara and Willow". Inside, on the back page is an article concerning how shabbily these characters were treated. Please, go read! It's written by a Kitten,.... me! Quite a shock today to go and see the article mentioned on the front cover!
A big thank you to Xita for all your help, it got published!!!
MaClayMagic
 


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Postby MAISEY12 » Mon Oct 14, 2002 3:04 am

Congratulations MaClayMagic, I'll make sure to buy my copy of Diva this afternoon. I'm really looking forward to reading your article.


Ann-Marie
MAISEY12
 


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Postby saule77 » Mon Oct 14, 2002 4:09 am

Ditto... + :clap
saule77
 


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Postby xita » Mon Oct 14, 2002 4:13 am

Awesome, congratulations, I'll be looking for it, meanwhile a transcript for people?
xita
 


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Postby Kendra63 » Mon Oct 14, 2002 4:55 am

can't wait to read it either.
Kendra63
 


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Postby urnofosiris » Mon Oct 14, 2002 4:55 am

Oh that is great, congratulations. I hope we have that mag here as well. I'm looking forward to reading it, and a front page mention as well. :)
urnofosiris
 


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Postby concrete » Mon Oct 14, 2002 4:59 am

We do, G. well at least here in the big city. I'll make sure you'll get a copy :)
concrete
 


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Postby cesario21 » Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:05 am

:bounce Yahoo!!! Have to go buy this asap!!! Well done!!! :clap

Snuggles,
Pillowsxxx:love
cesario21
 


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Postby urnofosiris » Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:15 am

Oh thanks concrete, I guess I will just have to go to Amsterdam again soon then. :grin

Cheers dear.

[img:fbea1f9dae]http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/contrib/blackeye/all_coholic.gif[/img:fbea1f9dae]
urnofosiris
 


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Postby Warduke » Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:30 am

Congratulations MaClayMagic, that's awesome :grin
Warduke
 


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Postby TromDeGrey » Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:31 am

Congrats, MM!!! :bounce
TromDeGrey
 


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Postby Zahir al Daoud » Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:42 am

Wow! Many congrats! I'll get a copy later this week and read!
Zahir al Daoud
 


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Postby Centauri2002 » Mon Oct 14, 2002 6:22 am

Congratulations MM! I'll make sure to get a copy! :D

Caz
Centauri2002
 


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Postby Spice Faerie » Mon Oct 14, 2002 7:19 am

Congats, MaClayMagic. That's very cool and I'll definately be on the lookout for it.

Spice
Spice Faerie
 


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Postby Mrs Vertigo » Mon Oct 14, 2002 7:27 am

That real cool, mclaymagic! I'd love to read it... but I don't think this mag's avalible in Israel. A transcript or a scan would be totaly awesome :)

congrats!
Mrs Vertigo
 


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Postby Dumbsaint » Mon Oct 14, 2002 7:36 am

Congratulations, MM! That is just too cool, can't wait to get my hands on a copy.
Dumbsaint
 


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Postby WebWarlock » Mon Oct 14, 2002 8:36 am

Excellent!

I'll stop off at the book store on my way to teach tonight.
good job!

Warlock
WebWarlock
 


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Postby tyche » Mon Oct 14, 2002 8:45 am

Who-hoo! Well done. I'll definitely buy it if I get a chance.
-edit-
Link to Diva's website for those interested. Here's how they describe the article:
[quote:536131b882][b:536131b882][i:536131b882]Quote:[/i:536131b882][/b:536131b882]
RIP Tara: The writers of Buffy the Vampire Slayer have fallen for the oldest cliche around. If a lesbian couple is happily in love, one of them has to die.
[/quote:536131b882]
tyche
 


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Postby VampNo12 » Mon Oct 14, 2002 10:22 am

Oh I am so happy for you MaClayMagic that is quite impressive, I send my hearty Congratulations :) ! I will definitely be on the look-out for the magazine, and can't wait to read the article.
VampNo12
 


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Postby Mrs Vertigo » Mon Oct 14, 2002 10:51 am

*visits the Diva website, her mouth dropping in awe. Then bows head, and trots back to the Kitten*

Now I know why that mag Isn't out in Israel.

Did you notice how pointedly I said 'out'?
Mrs Vertigo
 


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Postby Culzean » Mon Oct 14, 2002 10:55 am

Congrats MaClayMagic! This is great news.

The dearth of coverage on this issue in the gay press has been truly alarming. I'm still maad that Glaad is apparently sleepwalking through their media-watch duties.

Kudos to you and Diva!

deb
Culzean
 


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Postby BBOvenGuy » Mon Oct 14, 2002 10:58 am

Woo-hoo! Yay for MM! Congratulations!

:clap :clap :clap :bounce :bounce :bounce :party :party :party
BBOvenGuy
 


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Postby Scout » Mon Oct 14, 2002 11:28 am

Such exciting news! Much congrats!! :clap
Scout
 


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Postby Tara22 » Mon Oct 14, 2002 11:50 am

congratulations!!! that is so cool!!
now I'm gonna go out and try and find this magazine :D
Tara22
 


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Postby Puff » Mon Oct 14, 2002 12:26 pm

Congratulations MaClayMagic that's a wonderful accomplishment. I look forward to getting a hold of the magazine and reading the article.
Puff
 


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Postby MaClayMagic » Mon Oct 14, 2002 12:50 pm

Thanks everyone for your support. I have just finished transcribing the piece for you. They changed some of what I wrote we noticed but the piece still has bite! Here you go!

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RIP Tara: Lesley Davis mourns a much-loved television lesbian and asks, why did she have to die?

Theres something new stalking the streets of Sunnydale: the worn out clich. Its the one where the lesbian has to die and her girlfriend goes crazy with grief and has to destroy the world or something equally extreme. Sadly, the writers of Buffy The Vampire Slayer decided to resurrect this plot for the programmes sixth season. The final episodes saw a beloved character killed and her girlfriend turn evil. Why? Joss Whedon, the shows writer, confessed: I killed Tara. Some of you may have been hurt by that. Its very unlikely it was more painful to you than it was to me. I couldn't even discuss it in story meetings without getting upset, physically. Which is why I knew it was the right thing to do. Because stories, as I have so often said, are not about what we want. And I knew some people would be angry with me for destroying the only gay couple on the show, but the idea that I couldnt kill Tara because she was gay is as offensive to me as the idea that I did kill her because she was gay.

Offended doesnt begin to cover how watching one half of TVs most loving lesbian couple brutally slain has caused people to react. Willow, (American Pies Alyson Hannigan), the computer whiz, left her werewolf boyfriend and fell for Tara, a shy, blonde witch played by Amber Benson (writer/producer of the film Chance). They practiced magic but also did spells. The whole spells thing soon was translated to mean sex. But Warner Brothers, distributors of Buffy at the time, were uneasy with the lesbian angle. The spells were alluded to, there was only one full-lipped kiss, given in solace. Tara and Willow were loving lesbians who werent allowed to be seen to love. It was better for them to go and do a spell together than it would have been to announce they were fully-fledged lesbians who had sex together. Substitute lesbian for Wicca in Season Fives Tara-centred episode Family, for example, and its obvious what everyone is talking about.

XANDER: Well, that's sort of her deal. Her and Willow are all Wiccie. Swingin' with the Wiccan lifestyle.

With the move to a new network, UPN, in Series Six, the show became much darker. They were able to show more kissing; Willow and Tara were allowed to become more than the token lesbians. Oddly, they stood out as the only real couple on the show, in part due to the little touches both actresses brought to their characters. Buffy slept with the enemy, bad-boy vampire Spike, which ended up in a scene of attempted rape. The other straight couple, Xander and Anya, argued their way nearly to the alter, until that turned sour too. Even Willow and Tara eventually broke up because of Willows dependence on dark magic.

The blatantly rushed reunion of Willow and Tara was every fans dream: they kissed, they clung, they lay naked in bed and hardly ever left the sheets. When they did eventually leave the bedroom, however, we were forced to witness the sight of Willow covered in her lovers blood. It was cruel, senseless and disturbing. In grief and rage, Willow turned bad, wreaked havoc and skinned the man who murdered Tara. Man- hating lesbian, now theres a new theme. Then she tried to destroy the Earth. Her friend Xander managed to stop her when he told her how much he loved her.

The bad lesbian brought back to earth by the love of a good man. Only not that kind of love. No, Willow will probably go on to be the token lesbian character in the show, one safely rendered asexual without Tara by her side.

Everything Mutant Enemy (Buffys production company) built up in these characters was ruined, wasted, debauched. Characters who had been held up as role models by Whedon were then reduced to ratings fodder. The programme championed feminism and showed that good triumphs over evil, but it has also shown that if you are a lesbian, sooner or later you are going to pay for it.

Buffys writers constantly reassured the fans that Tara would be staying. Every season they said she was safe, they wouldnt get rid of her, they were aware of her following. In January of this year, Joss Whedon told Entertainment Weekly; "I have no plans to send Tara anywhere. Amber (Benson) and Alyson (Hannigan) have such great chemistry; they're so great together, and they're very romantic together

They lied. The Internet is rife with petitions, chat boards, Tara lists, all up in arms. Its not just lesbians either; Tara was seen as an excellent role model for everyone, seen as more than just her sexuality.

Stories, as I have so often said, are not about what we want. Joss Whedon.

Whedon believes we needed to see this happen. I didnt. If you have the power to create a world of fantasy, why not indulge it a little further? Make a place where gays dont get punished because of who they love. Mutant Enemy needs to see that doing something because they didn't like being told they couldn't isn't a good enough excuse. What kind of message are they broadcasting? Not the sort that I, as a lesbian, want to watch. If I want that kind of thing, reality has enough to show me.

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MaClayMagic
 


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Postby Hemiola » Mon Oct 14, 2002 2:16 pm

Excellently done, MacClayMagic:) .

All the necessary points have been nicely digested and stated.

Of course, reading the nasty JW statements just infuriates me all over again. He seems to forget that a "vision" for a story is fine if you're writing a novel, a play, or even a movie. With television, you are given a basically simple task: [i:2c125d07dc] put those warm bodies in front of the screen so that they can catch the nice commercials running during your show[/i:2c125d07dc]. That's it. Simple as that. This is the mandate given by all the broadcast and cable networks to Aaron Spelling, Steven Bochco, David Kelly, and anyone else who produces a TV show. How has this goal been accomplished ever since the middle of the last century? [i:2c125d07dc] By giving viewers what they want to see[/i:2c125d07dc]. In television more than any other medium, viewers "vote with their feet" (metaphorically speaking:D ). If they don't get what they want in one place, they go somewhere else. Unfortunately for Mr. Whedon, there are now [b:2c125d07dc] vastly more[/b:2c125d07dc] places for viewers to go than there were, say, forty years ago. Given the business he is in, I would think that logic would dictate that you don't give your fans/viewers a reason to go somewhere else. Apparently, the logic escapes him.

I'm just saying......
Hemiola
 


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Postby sistakind » Mon Oct 14, 2002 2:22 pm

YEAH!!!!
There is a woo and finally a whoooo
sistakind
 


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Postby Coma123 » Mon Oct 14, 2002 2:25 pm

Can I show my total ignorance and ask what Diva mag is?
Coma123
 


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Postby superherofan » Mon Oct 14, 2002 3:11 pm

Coma123,

It's a European lesbian magazine. Here's their website: www.divamag.co.uk/diva/
superherofan
 

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