New Fic: Darkness Falls

[Grimlock72]

Aww... you're not supposed to put ALL those things on the 'failure' pile!



Some of the stuff I mention isn't pointing out a story failure but more concern for the charachers in it. Meaning you've written it well



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I still see her character as reacting emotionally, in the heat of the moment as it were, and so I have written her like that

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I like/adore Willow reacting emotionally, which from here on forward will be referred to as Protective Willow . Granted the results aren't always good since going into a fight based purely on emotion, well... it's just not handy shall we say. I was all for Willow kicking Glory around a bity on _Tough Love_, I like the involvment expressed by that. (owww, kinda bad line that.. hope you get the point)



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I think I wanted to simply show that she is grasping at any hope she can, no matter how illogical or irrational it may be.

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I did get that, honestly I did. It's just that I've seen to many people hang on to irrational belief based on nothing... it's not good to get your hopes up based on thin air. For a change I want to protect Dawn a bit



The scoobs going to 'find Tara', it stands to reason they would search for Madrine since they know Tara left in her limo, which was there WHY exactly anyway ? Hence me wondering why ever they would go to Main Street to look for Tara



Since I do seem to have enough time I'll copy the story to word, I usually re-read stories that way as well so maybe I'll be back with even MORE comments. (oh oh : --> ).



Funny that you seem to have trouble with going from Script Form to Written Form. I would have guessed the other way around is harder since it's difficult to do some things in script, i.e. thoughts.



Oh yeah, you wrote something about Madrine's magic contingency being powerfull. It still seems to me that she merely had the right stones to control/ward-off Tara's magic, which has little to do with power itself. More with preparation, it begs the question if those stones work as neutralizer on every witch of course...



But I sooooo want to see Willow have a nice little chat *cough* with Madrine. Did I mention I like Protective (and slightly aggresive, heh) Willow ?? Thought so.



Amazing what I still remember about this story just by reading this update. Must be a good story to stick to stay in memory that long The more I think about it the more question come up, hmm.... best stop thinking then.



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

Edited by: Grimlock72 at: 1/28/03 2:12:28 pm

[VampNo12]

Kris, lovely to see another update to this intriguing story! I must say I really enjoyed Grimmy's feedback as well your reply, it really captured most of my thoughts/feelings.



Just wanted to say I did enjoy the Buffy/Giles interaction, and what resonated with me (besides the obvious discussion about Madrine/"power") was Buffy making the point that Giles her "watcher" left her. Or in other words, Buffy saying, ("I didn't call my Watcher to give him a Slayer blow-by-blow report. I called my friend. I called my friend to tell him about this thing that I'd done, to tell him about what happened to people I care about-- to people he cares about."). Really I found this quite poignant that at this moment of crisis (truly at a loss) Buffy needs Giles emotionally as a "friend" first (ie someone she hopes can offer some comfort, as well as sounding board to vent her fears), and a Watcher second (ie looking for "cold hard facts", knowledge in how to destroy Madrine).



Lastly, I too loved Grimmy's analogy of Tara "drowning in something she knows she shouldn't be in but can't get out, like quicksand.". Really the scene with Tara looking over her surroundings was quite tangible, and what struck a chord with me was the reverberations of Tara hearing the mantra of "I love you, too, Tara.". I may be way "off-base", but it appears to me that Tara is being controlled (beyond the dispiriting stones, which binds her magic) by the necklace (charm) she is wearing, altering her reality. However, on some level her "soul" recognizes what she is seeing with Madrine is an illusion (ie Tara thinking, "Canopy bed...?", meaning the pieces don't fit). So whatever "power" the necklace has over her, it isn't allowing her to see through the "cloud" in order to see clearly, and thus she's pulled back into the illusion of what Madrine wants Tara to see (ie at the moment there are only whispers of truth, but nothing tangible for Tara to hold onto for strength in order to break free). And as the mantra continues with Tara being led to Main Street, with Willow knowing Tara is alive (ie the gang preparing, getting "battle ready") I can't wait to see what happens next!

Edited by: VampNo12  at: 1/28/03 8:00:27 pm

[Grimlock72]

VampNo12 brings up an interesting point, are those binding stones still around ? I figured once the charm was on Madrine would do away with the binding stones. Partially because she likely wants Tara to do magic for her.



On re-reading the crypt chapter I wondered if the charm only protects Madrine against Tara or is more of will-control-device. Possibly both. Tara will (want to) die before using magic against innocents or her friends though.... Why *ever* did Tara believe Madrine would actually tell the scoobies about a 'cure' even IF there was one ??



So it's basicly W/T-love vs. Madrine's control charm... lets who wins, heh...



Re-reading the Willow-poison/hospital scenes was hard btw. Her last line "your eyes are sky-blue" keeps coming back to me.



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

Edited by: Grimlock72 at: 1/29/03 4:14:39 am

[KrisBo5]

Well, let's see. . .



BFR from Paris, you're quite welcome for the page numbers. And as for Main Street, yes, well, get there early for good seats! And, on the QT, I'm kinda wonderin' myself how Tara will get outta this one. . . .



Grimlock72, well, no one is harder on my writing than me, so when I see problems with my story, and 'settle' anyway(even when I'm not too, too happy about it) and then others point out the exact problems I saw, I say 'failure.' What can you do, eh? I do appreciate that you think I've written the story well, though, that means a great deal, really. Thank you.

I, too, have always loved to watch the character of Willow reacting emotionally, whether it be protective or angry or what have you, mostly because it seems that it is "out of character" for her usual calm, scientific self. Generally, as you say, the results aren't too good, and yet that she keeps doing it, I think it says a great deal more about her character(although all the characters seem to make the same mistakes over again, just in different situations). And I really like writing that character of Willow.



I'm curious about what you said: "It's just that I've seen to many people hang on to irrational belief based on nothing... it's not good to get your hopes up based on thin air. For a change I want to protect Dawn a bit." I'm wondering if you mean in 'Real Life' or in 'Fiction World.' Hmm. . . . I can't really address the first, but as for the second, I understand your desire to want to protect Dawn from having her hopes dashed away. I wrote Buffy saying she agreed with Giles' thoughts re: Tara, as one sister(Buffy) giving another sister(Dawn) hope and belief; the fact that Buffy is The Slayer as well, I feel, should give Dawn a little more than hope, but that may not have been written overly clear. I would never treat the characters so callously( like some unnamed production entity) or disrespectfully(ibid) as to just loft them up to be 'bitch-slapped around.' That's just not me, or how I write. So, G, have hope. . . and faith.



The Scoobies 'going to find Tara' as opposed to saying they're 'going to find Madrine.' Well, that was really just how I thought they'd speak about it, truthfully. For me, they would say they wanted to find Tara; that Tara is with Madrine, and they will have to find Madrine to accomplish that, I felt that that was implied. Guess not. Oh, well.

Why was the limo there? If you mean the hospital, you may remember that Fonce and the Scorpion people watched the ambulance come, and they followed and waited for Tara to exit the hospital. Granted, Madrine and Fonce's belief that Tara would go all revenge-ey or self-sacrifice-y was a giant leap, but, hey, what can I say, writer's perogative.



And Main Street. I think I mentioned -- more interesting than just the Summers' house or The Magic Box. But, moreover, Tara's nightmare(precognative nightmare that is), and Buffy's confrontation with Madrine, the billboard, all of it happened on Main Street, or alleys directly off of it. I also view Main Street as the 'epicenter' of Sunnydale, even if the Hellmouth is under the school. I see Madrine(who appears unadorned and common) as loving to have ostentatious things around her, to bring attention to herself vicariously, allowing her to be the 'epicenter.' I don't know, I'm working on her. . . . So, this is where they are starting.



Madrine & magic. Yes, she has the right stones and necklaces and accouterments necessary to magickally aid her 'cause.' Yes, it is preparation, *cough* foresight. You may remember the brief appearance of the Cassandra character. But, why I see it as power is this(and it's just my opinion): those in powerful positions often appear more 'powerful' when they have powerful people around them. As Machiavelli wrote(and I'm just paraphrasing), those who work for a ruler(king, president, etc.) reflect who that ruler is. Thus, having them around her, controling them, she seems powerful; and, when she does choose to demonstrate her abilities(fighting, killing, intelligence, etc.) She becomes even more so in the eyes of those around her. Anyway, that's what I'm aiming for, and it might not come off, but. . .



G, for me, script format is sooo easy. It's the economy of language I like. That, and the fact that in scripts, the director, art department, camera, wardrobe, etc. They are responsible for showing every little detail to the audience. A writer may be specific in the script if he/she wants, but chances are, a director or producer will just cross it out and do it their own way. In narrative, if I want you to see the mansion a certain way, I must describe it in minute detail. Clues, sights, sounds, touches, tastes, whatever -- all must be described to be experienced. No visuals to aid me. That's been very difficult for me in this story.



Whether or not Willow will get to have that *cough* chat *cough* with Madrine, well, can't really say, but I think you may like what you see, er, read, whatever, you understand what I mean.



And please do comment on other parts of the story if you'd like. I love reading feedback from you all, and my, my, you are quite chatty yourself! Haha! I like that, too.



VampNo12, I was hoping I might hear from you again. I always look forward to your replies, you know. You enjoyed Grim's remarks too, huh? Pretty nifty, I agree. Makes me wish I was a better writer. Hehehe!



I'm glad that you enjoyed the Giles/Buffy interaction. I 'liked' it myself, but I just had my problems with its overall effect on the story. I enjoy writing the Buffy/Giles dialogues; they always seemed very funny, what with her so atypical and him so staunchy. Anyhoo. I find myself thinking more and more that they have moved beyond the Watcher/Slayer relationship; yes, they still need one another in those roles, but they have grown up, and apart to some extent. Their relationship must reflect that as well. Hence, Buffy's need for a friend(hmm, fatherly figure) first, then a Watcher(boss-type know-it-all).



Hmm, maybe not so far off base, really. Shhh. . . . I'll never tell though.



Grimlock72, hmm, you are a chatty Cathy, aren't you!? Haha! Well, the Dispiriting Stones are still around, but not in the vicinity per se. Tara is rather like an airplane on the tarmac: she's in a holding pattern. That's a weird analogy, even by my standards. . . .



The Charm necklace. Well, yes, possibly both. Again, though, it's all to come. Be careful -- this is called Darkness Falls, and whether Tara wants to use magicks against her friends and other innocents, well, that may be beyond her control. . . . Why did she believe Madrine? One, I think because Tara would believe her; she hadn't killed her, or vamped her, or let anyone else do those things, so she was kind of playing the odds. Two, I think Tara would believe that Madrine would let her tell the Scoobies about the cure; she had to believe she could save Willow, really, no matter the cost. Kinda harkening back to the hope in the face of contradictory evidence.



Well, I've had a lot of responses to the poisoning/street scene and the hospital scene. Many remarks were sent privately, just saying how 'true' and 'real' and 'devastating' they were. I know it seems strange to say I'm glad and happy about that, but. . . I tried very hard to express so much in those scenes. It was not exactly 'warm puppies' for me either. And, Willow's last line, yes, well. . . .



Thanks again, G, fab-O(if I knew how to do these darn emoticons, I'd have a bowing one or something). You'll have to settle for *Kris smiles*



Kris

"Frell that!"

[singgirl]

Is it too soon to ask for more??

Pax! -Bev

[vmpIrslAr]

WOOOOO HOOOO Update! I'm so happy to see that the story has started up again! I've been waiting rather impatiently for it. Excellent update... oh and the suspense begins... what will happen when Willow sees Tara... with Madrine?

VmpIrslAr out.






"she's my everything."

[4WiccanLuv]

Kris, I went back and re-read the last few chapters. Mainly the parts after the hospital scene, coz they were a little fuzzy in my head. Can I just say that I'm more impressed now than before! Well I am! I love this story and your ability to tell it. A few things…



As far as Madrine is concerned, personally, I've always enjoyed villains who like to really screw with the minds of the heroes and I gotta say, she's doing a pretty bang up job!! What is it that makes a 'great' villain? Of course, its something that's gonna to vary from person to person... after all, there are some attributes and aspects of personality that we would consider to be more 'evil' than others, but many of those are our personal opinions. IMHO, Madrine is one scary mo-fo!!! She gets high marks for the ripping out of throats with bare hands!! Heck, even her minions (Fonce) scare the crap out of me. I'm just a big ol' fraidy cat, I guess!



<< Although it may have come across as them all going out to meet Madrine head-on in combat, that wasn't my intention>> I, for one, didn't get that impression from this update. Matter of fact, I'm hoping there isn't even a Madrine/Tara sighting on Main Street. I'm worried. The Scoobies don't know enough about her to face her yet. Sure, Willow's all gung-ho, gotta go get my girl, no one's gonna stop me, damn the consequences and that to me, is consistent with her character. Once she has on her 'resolve face' there is no stopping her and that is both, endearing and aggravating, makes you wanna kiss her and kill her, all at the same time! Go Willow!!!



MOP, there were two previous scenes that suggest Buffy stopped Willow from hastily rushing out to find Tara. First, when she wakes up in the hospital, then again in the heart wrenching kitchen scene when Willow considers using the magicks (locater spell) and Buffy talks her out of it…those were pretty clear to me, anyway. I guess a third time was too much to ask for, huh? Can I also say that I really respect your Buffy. She's the polar opposite of ME's Buffy. Her actions and words show how much she loves her friends and family, Dawn included. I totally feel the Scooby Love…gee whiz, I miss that, thank you!



<> Again, I think you're doing a wonderful job here. The entire mausoleum scene was expertly written. Tara waking up in that place with Cassandra's dead body, the cobblestone rocks surrounding her, the monsters, the plaques, etc…bravo!! BTW, when Madrine took out 'Scorpion Man's throat, the visuals gave me the heebie jeebies in Hannibal Lechter-y kinda way!! Yu-uck!! Also, I'm curious to find out who 'he' is that Madrine referred to and why she felt defiled, hence killing Scorpion Man for uttering 'his' words in her presence. Things are going to get very interesting indeed…



Please forgive my ramblings … my point, if ever there was one, is that I love this story, it *works* for me!! Maybe I'm just easy to please. Hmmm? *did I just say that out loud?* Anyhoot, try not to be so hard on yourself MOP, this is an excellent piece of work and most entertaining. I look forward to more, got my seatbelt on and everything!



Take care,

Linda



PS Feb 8 is just around the corner, hang in there kiddo!

[IsayAmberBensonsgorgeous]

Amen to what Linda said !!!!!!

C

ETA: B you little sweet harasser!

"Es ist fuer einen Menschen unertraeglich, ertragen zu werden." (Jean Cocteau)

"Ain't never gonna love you any better babe - And they'll never gonna love you right" (Kozmic Blues - Janis Joplin)

Edited by: IsayAmberBensonsgorgeous at: 1/30/03 12:19:48 am

[KrisBo5]

Buon giorno, Kittens!



Bev, never too early to ask. . . Just too early to expect. Thanks & hold on to yourself. . . .



vmpIrslAr, Woo-hoo, I'm happy you're so happy about the update. Yes, let the suspense begin. . . Hmmm.



Linda, my, my, my, look at you, all with the big ole honkin' feedback. Can I just say, um, the scenes after the hospital were fuzzy? Hmm. You remember the beginning of the story better than the more recent parts? Again, hmm. Anyway, I digress. . .



I'm sure glad that Madrine and her posse scare the crap outta you; and I mean that in a good way, really I do. Hehe. And, you're not a fraidy cat. With regards to Madrine, because, as the writer, I know who Madrine is and what her ultimate motives are, I have had to reveal those things very slowly. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. I'm not big with the bad guy walking right up in a big black hat and a sneer; too easy, and not as much fun. I, too, like the villains that are very intelligent, complex, and seriously into head games, as well as showing a flash of graphic violence or horror every now and then. That, to me, is when you can really see who is a 'monster,' who is evil.



As you say, no, they really don't know enough about her except what Buffy, Xander and Dawn have seen; what Tara told them from her dream; what Tara and Willow saw on the street, what Giles hypothesized about, etc. Not much. Although on the show, they have gone into battle knowing little about their opponents, I always thought, "Are you crazy?" For me, having Willow say that she was going to go after Tara and find her, I was trying to stay within the confines of that character; and it may have come off as 'out of character' simply because we all can stand back and say "Are you crazy?" I don't know. I was merely attempting to show that Willow is an emotional reactor when it comes to her love for others, in particular, Tara; that the others are willing to follow her into the path of danger, well, that's what Scoobies do, eh?



Curious that you don't want them to even see Madrine and Tara. Why is that, I wonder? Worried something bad will happen? Hmm. . . .



Buffy. Thank you. I have tried very, very hard to make Buffy the way she was in the beginning of the show. I loved that Buffy. I miss that Buffy. I always thought her friendships with Willow and Xander were at the heart of the show, and I have missed seeing that. So, it makes me happy to read that you are enjoying my version of The Chosen One.



Regarding narrative vs. Script. Thank you. In my head, I visualized the story having a certain look and sound, etc. As a script writer, unfortunately, you can only do so much. Writing narrative has been hard, as I said, cause I'm not a big user of adjectives and the like. So, if you are getting the 'heebie jeebies in a Hannibal Lechter-y kinda way!!' Well, then, yay, go me. I'm happy. As for who 'He' is and what 'His' words are, it is God she is referring to, and a passage from the Bible. Madrine has this thing about. . . er, well, I'll get to that in an upcoming part of the story. You'll see.



I love your ramblings, Linda! And, hey, if you're easy to please, I say shout it from the rooftops, you're among friends, eh? And, you know, I'm always hard on myself, If I wasn't, I might actually be, eeks, happy or something. My goodness, who needs that!



PS One week, 2 days, but who's counting???



C, Grazie!



Kris

"Frell that!"

[barnabasvamp]

Oh MOP!!



You must listen to my girl, she is not that "easy" when it comes to the fics she enjoys.



I'm with her, though. You may be a "script" writer, but me thinks there is a bit more of a true writer hiding inside.



As for feeling the need for descriptions, how else would we get a true idea of the settings. If it were on the screen, we could see it. For now we must use or imaginations, and you help us by letting us see exactly how you picture a scene happenning. (otherwise, can you imagine what "our" imaginations might come up with?)



Your writing may not please you at times my dear, but us loyal followers are very happy.



1 week, 2 days WooHoo!!

"In front of total strangers won't you kiss me, Flowers for no reason but you miss me - OOH, I wanna be in love"Melissa Etheridge

[KrisBo5]

BV, you are a sweetie. I wouldn't really know if your girl is "easy" or not. . . I mean, with fics of course. That's not something we can discuss in this thread(email privately, please, hehehe). I am glad you're with her, though, in all things DF and whatever else. Again, hehehe. And again, what a sweetie, saying a 'true writer' is hiding somewhere inside. *blushes*



My comments with regards to descriptions, I just meant I write those for crap. Kris not speak the English good. But, if you are able to 'see' a bit of what I have in my head(pictures) by my descriptions(words) than I guess that's all of the good. And, um, no, I don't think I need to know what your own imaginations would come up with. . . I'm a naive young thing, you know.



Well, yes, I am always unhappy with my writing -- I think it's a writer thing though -- but I'm very happy that my loyal followers aka Harrassers. Thank you!

Kris

"Frell that!"

[singgirl]

Kris, do I have to hold onto myself whilst I wait? Can't C do that part?

[IsayAmberBensonsgorgeous]

Of course we are happy with your writing, we love it Kris , you could write us some NC69 fic and we wouldn't be unhappy, not really!!!

B love, what shall I do? I am sure I can though, whatever it is!

C

"Es ist fuer einen Menschen unertraeglich, ertragen zu werden." (Jean Cocteau)

"Ain't never gonna love you any better babe - And they'll never gonna love you right" (Kozmic Blues - Janis Joplin)

[4WiccanLuv]

MOP, glad you didn't mind my rambling, but it was the medication…HeeHee! Normally not that chatty!



Yeah, the earlier scenes stuck with me…heh, just cause I'm a sucker for looooove stories. And the way you got the girls got back together was soooooooo incredibly sweet. Generally, I tend to remember hearts and flowery type stuff above all else.



<< I'm not big with the bad guy walking right up in a big black hat and a sneer; too easy, and not as much fun. I, too, like the villains that are very intelligent, complex, and seriously into head games, as well as showing a flash of graphic violence or horror every now and then.>> Exactly! One of my all time favorite villains is Michael Corleone of 'Godfather' fame. He is a paradox for sure!! The scene where he is christening one of Connie's kids and is renouncing all things 'evil' (devil) in church while he is simultaneously snuffing the heads of all the other New York mob families is masterful. Anyhoot, for me, he's the ultimate villain!



Speaking of villains since you know what's the what with Madrine, how's about a few spoilers eh? Nah, didn't think so, but it didn't hurt to ask!



<< Curious that you don't want them to even see Madrine and Tara. Why is that, I wonder? Worried something bad will happen? Hmm.....>> Knowing you…yes! Dark, darker, darkest…I'm very afraid! Since Tara is under Madrine's control, I fear there will be little she could do to secure her safety or Willow's/Scoobies. BTW, I get cranky when Willow gets hurt, so watch it Missy!



Yup, I'm enjoying your version of the Chosen One very much! Oh, what could have been if the ME had half a brain! So sad, but hey, your Buffy and Scooby Gang make me cheery.



Thanks for the explanation about 'Him'. I thought that, but you see, I'm Biblically challenged! Can't wait to see what her issues with 'Him" are! Looks like Madrine's been around since the beginning of time, what with that list of lovers and all. I'm intrigued!!



BTW, if Kris not speak English good than Linda not speak English gooder!



Take care MOP,

Linda

[KrisBo5]

Sorry for the delay this morning, Kittens, busy, busy, busy here at work. Well. . .



B, hey, get whoever you need to hold you tight. . . .



C, again with the NC-69. You'll get us in trouble, you know.

Linda, of course I don't mind rambling, especially when it's wrapped up in some very good criticism. Which, of course, yours was.



You're a romantic at heart? Really? I'd have never guessed. . . . Hehehe! Seriously, I'm glad you liked the sweet 'hearts and flowery type' stuff, cause I don't think I write that kind of thing very well; all of which I've said before, huh?



Can't say that I'm a big 'Godfather' fan, but I do remember that movie, and that scene you mention. I love layers in characters; especially if you see one layer, and you like it, then suddenly, bam! And your whole view is changed. I think that is also why I like the 'antihero' stereotype. More realistic and more intriguing and involving. Even someone who is evil can be likeable(Hannibal in 'Silence of the Lambs' comes quickly to mind). Anyway. . . .



A spoiler with Madrine, eh? Hmm, well, let me think. Oh, I know, um, she likes red. Wait, hmm, that's not much of a spoiler. Oh well, never mind then.



Yes, as for the Scoobs seeing Tara/Madrine on Main Street, it is more than likely; I think every Kitten is ready for fireworks, so. . . . Whether or not Tara has control or what, you'll have to see, huh?



As for 'Him.' Yes, I figured people would know who I meant, but there will be explanations of a sort, when Madrine is researched more. Her problems, as you'll see, I think reflect your average person's. Hmm, that doesn't sound very good for us average people, huh?



Thanks for the feedback. . . And, hey, I didn't forget, you're gonna cook me something still, right? Mmm-mmm. . . .



Kris

"Frell that!"

[4WiccanLuv]

Howdy Kris! Hope all is going well in Italia! Don't know why I've become so chatty....it's the caffeine, yeah, that's the ticket. heehee



<< I'm glad you liked the sweet 'hearts and flowery type' stuff, cause I don't think I write that kind of thing very well; all of which I've said before, huh?>> Surely you jest? MOP, those scenes are fricken hot…oh, and mucho sweet!! :Willow & :Tara were sizzlin'!



Heh, yeah, I have a weird fetish for gangsters and Mob movies… I know, evil men, what can I say? I hate that I root for them to get away with the things they do, then I sit there and justify, why the had to bump so and so off…anyway…



So Madrine likes red. Wonder why? *lol*



Ok, I'm ready for fireworks too, but please don't hurt Willow again, my heart couldn't take it!!



<< when Madrine is researched more. Her problems, as you'll see, I think reflect your average person's.>> Yipes!! Can't wait til the Scoobies hit the books!!



Oh gosh, no MOP, no one should be subjected to my cooking!! Maybe it's best I let a professional handle it! Anywhere your little ol' heart desires?!



PS, it's HOT here, I think it may reach 90. Nothing like a SoCal winter, huh?



PPS please consider throwing C some NC69 stuff, she's been deprived for far too long! Poor Baby!





Take care,

Linda

[KrisBo5]

Linda, finally back at work on Monday, so I can answer you. No, actually, I read my more 'romantic' and/or attempts at 'smut'(yeah, right) and I cringe. I just think that in that area, I am seriously lacking; I'm glad my harassers, as well as other Kittens, enjoy it, but for me? Yipes! Doesn't mean I'll stop writing the W/T goodness, far from it; simply means, I won't reread it. Hehehe.



Hurting Willow isn't good, I agree. It isn't really a goal of mine. Actually, hurting any of the Scoobies isn't ever a goal. Unfortunately, they live on The Hellmouth, and putting them in dire consequences(possibly even getting hurt a little) makes for good drama and great satisfaction when they overcome it all.



Re: Madrine's probs with 'Him' and etc. Yipes! LOL! Yes, well, it's all part of my grand scheme of who she is and what she wants. I think the tv show has demonstrated that, even though many of the villains are 'monsters' they want/need/have 'human desires.' Well, it seems that way to me. I may be off my rocker, ya know. . . .



Anyway, thanks for being chatty and discussing DF. It is always great to read criticism and 'insight' from others. Plus, I can steal the really good ideas. Total bonus!!! Hehehe!

Kris

"Frell that!"

[Tulipp]

Oh, that scene with Madrine and Tara is just...eerie. I'm going to go back and re-read the previous chapter again and then re-read this, but even without doing that, I felt plunged right back into the chill. I love the way you're drawing Willow and Tara toward one another, both of them heading for Main Street and both of them to some extent lost right now, although Tara doesn't realize, I think, how lost she really is. Seeing Willow, I hope, will remind her of that and much more. Great story, as always.

"And I'm eating this banana. Lunchtime be damned!" -- Willow in "Doppelgangland

[KrisBo5]

Tulipp, oh, I'm so happy that you got a chance to read the update; I was hoping you would. Well, I was kinda goin' for creepy with the Tara/Madrine scene; creepy and kinda "What's going on here?" I think that, yes, Tara and Willow are a bit "lost" right now, but whether or not Tara knows that. . . hmm. I guess we'll have to wait and see -- on Main Street. Thanks for reading!

Kris

"Frell that!"

[Eternal Phoenix]

Wow...that is a great fic you are writing. i am chewing my nails constantly!

you are killing me

write more write more- i cant take the waiting anymore (and they say that i am a patient person!)

you are soooo great!

Phoenix

[singgirl]

Okay Kris, so when I last posted it was not too soon to ask for an update, but too soon to expect one. How about now? Still too soon to expect? Shall I continue to have C hold on to me to calm my nerves?

Pax! -Bev

[IsayAmberBensonsgorgeous]

B I'll hold on to you as long as necessary, don't worry

Kris, I didn't do anything don't me! Can we have some Insight , pretty please?

C

"Ain't never gonna love you any better babe - And they'll never gonna love you right." (Kozmic Blues - Janis Joplin)

[KrisBo5]

Late, late start today since I had a late, late night last night. Partied very hardy in Venice. Paying for it today. Last day in Venice, Italy, after 9 weeks. Woo. . . and a tired hoo. Anyhow. . .



Eternal Phoenix, look at me, all flattered and blushing! My story was your second post. That's great, thanks so much! Happy that you are enjoying the fic so much; I'm having fun writing it. 'Write more, write more.' Hmm. . . I'll try. And, there is an old saying, "all good things to those who wait. . ." Thanks for reading!



B, I say always have C hold you tight. Working hard on the updates, but. . . May be too soon to expect one. Busy packing and fearing the whole flying home thing. But it's a comin'. . . .



C, oh, no, you never do anything. . . Uh-huh, sure. Insight, huh? Just your round-a-bout way of askin' for smut, I know. It's a comin'. . . Er, no pun intended.



Kris

"Frell that!"

[KrisBo5]

Obviously still hung over. . . double posted. Oops! Sorry.

Kris

"Frell that!"

Edited by: KrisBo5 at: 2/7/03 10:13:12 am

[barnabasvamp]

Woo Hoo!!

Our MOP is on her way home



Welcome back, and while getting a well deserved break, I'm sure we will be learning more about Tara's situation??



BV

"In front of total strangers won't you kiss me, Flowers for no reason but you miss me - OOH, I wanna be in love"Melissa Etheridge

[singgirl]

Well, I hope you have a safe trip. I'm with C ont his though, some Insight would be nice, really really nice

Pax! -Bev

[KrisBo5]

Sorry for the delays in responses, Kittens, but I've been flyin' the skies. Anyhoo. . .



BV, yes, I am, at last, home. . . sweet home. Had to spend an extra night in Paris due to bad weather, but hey, I got bumped to First Class! Woo-hoo! And, yes, you will be getting an update on the Tara/Willow situation. . . Mwahahaha!



Bev, My trip was long and safe, albeit stinky with the unexpected stay in Paris, but home is where I am and I like it muchly. Some Insight, eh? Oh, that's right. . . The make-up sex. Hmm. . . Let me see what I can do. . . .



Kris

"Frell that!"

[UnOrChAsTrAtEd PhEnOmEnOn]

I think this story is amazing you are a really good writer i applaud you there were quite long gaps between each part but it was well worth it

THANKYOU

[KrisBo5]

UnOrChAsTrAtEd PhEnOmEnOn, thank you so much. Quite honored that this seems to be your first post on my story. As for the the huge gaps in my posting, I'm a little bit of a perfectionist, so I usually don't post till I'm about 99% happy with it. Anyway, I'm happy that you are enjoying the story and I hope you keep reading and posting.

Kris

"Frell that!"

[4WiccanLuv]

Kris, so happy to have you back after your stint in the Old World! Glad you made it back safely. Looking forward to more of your usual DF brilliance!



Ps, I owe ya something, I'll be in touch!



Take care,

Linda