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Postby Twisted Minstrel » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:24 pm

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Is anyone familiar with the show, House? I do not watch much television but caught an episode last week that got under my skin a bit. A bit of warning - this is spoilery for this episode, so if you haven't seen and would wait for a re-run, might want to sit this out.


I couldn't tell you the particulars about all the characters, save that Dr. House is an incredibly cynical, Sherlock Holmesian type whose need to show up his staff is equalled only by his superficially unkempt appearance (scruffy, uses a cane).

In the episode I saw a young woman is brought in to the hospital under false pretenses - she's faking an illness in order to end her relationship with her long-term girlfriend (if you just scratched your head, you're not alone). While the doctors puzzle over her symptoms with one another, through the most unbelievable deductive reasoning I've ever witnessed, House diagnosed the impending breakup - without so much as using a rectal thermometer.

The young non-patient can't seem to bring herself to tell her devoted girlfriend that she's leaving which adds an extra level of complication to the story when, shockingly, she turns out to be genuinlely ill - her liver is failing and until they can figure out what caused it, seek to buy her time with a partial liver transplant (donated by the devoted girlfriend, of course).

What I found disturbing about the episode is that, yet again, a mainstream television program takes a gay relationship (though it could easily have been a straight one) and instead of a positive identification, takes the low road with an unhealthy obsession, a near-death experience, a sacrafice, and, finally, a cynical resolution that makes both young women look immature and incapable of a 'real' relationship.

Drama is drama no matter what you do with it, or what characters you use and this episode could be considered compelling an entertaining - but after all we've learned about the presentation of gay characters on television and in film, this story seems particularly old-fashioned and uninspired.

The stereotypes and the cliches are alive and well and aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
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Re: HOUSE

Postby gyzmkid » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:49 pm

That episode aside (which didn't really bother me, but maybe I look at things differently) House is one of my favorite shows. I think it's original, and I like that. I see what you mean though.
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Hyo shin » Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:31 am

House is a quite nasty show. I don't think the lesbian couple is exceptional. Almost every human being on the show is heavely flawed. Except the cancer kid, I guess.
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Hemiola » Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:20 am

I don't hesitate to call myself a fan of the show. I like it not only for its own unique qualities, but also for Hugh Laurie, whose performances I have enjoyed going all the way back to "Jeeves and Wooster" and "Blackadder". I particularly enjoy how well he does an American accent.:-)

I should also mention that I have gotten a kick out of the appearances of several BtVS alumni, most notably Tom Lenk (in a small part) and Michelle Trachtenberg (in a big part a couple of weeks ago). ;-)
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Hyo shin » Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:33 am

I forgot. They had another lesbian couple in the season 1. They were decent people.
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Emms » Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:14 pm

God I love this show...it's become an addiction in our house and at my mother's as well. It's like crack...or something...

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Re: HOUSE

Postby Sheridan » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:22 am

I think the acid test is whether the show treated the lesbian couple any differently from any of the other patient/spouse couples they've had on the show, and the answer is no, they all get treated apallingly and they more often than not end up looking like idiots.:)
It is so refreshing to have a show where the lead is so cynical and unsympathetic.
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Candleshoe » Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:42 pm

I like this show because I get at least one belly-laugh per episode, and I learn a new insult every time.
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Re: HOUSE

Postby seurat » Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:52 pm

House is one of my four or five favorite shows. I saw that ep and immediately wondered what the kittens would think of that portrayal. I don't think I can say it any better than Sheridan, the lesbian couple were as messed up and deeply flawed as everyone else on the show, especially House (and after this week's ep, Wilson too). It would be nice to see some more positive relationships on the show however, it does get awfully bleak. Definitely one of the better written and acted shows on tv, although I suspect the medical stuff is um...not too realistic.
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Tarababy77 » Sat May 06, 2006 3:26 pm

Yeap, i'm lovin' this show. With the cast and crew, I see many more seasons to come. The lasted ep, threw me for a loop. I so can't wait to see how the season ends...
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Morganlafay » Mon May 15, 2006 2:56 pm

Who noticed the House mentioning the L Word last week? He wanted to get home so that he could see the marathon. I thought that was pretty funny. But House watching lesbians? kinda creepy lol
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Sheridan » Mon May 15, 2006 3:49 pm

thought that was pretty funny. But House watching lesbians? kinda creepy lol

Well when he was stuck in the airport with Stacey and she suggested he read a book he produced a volume called 'Lesbian Prison Stories' from somewhere....
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Tarababy77 » Mon May 15, 2006 4:46 pm

Sheridan wrote:
thought that was pretty funny. But House watching lesbians? kinda creepy lol

Well when he was stuck in the airport with Stacey and she suggested he read a book he produced a volume called 'Lesbian Prison Stories' from somewhere....


Yeap, creepy... =)
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Re: HOUSE

Postby seurat » Tue May 16, 2006 12:56 pm

The funny part, to me at least, was that he said he was going to go home and watch The L Word - on mute...
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Tarababy77 » Thu May 18, 2006 7:35 pm

I think House has a little fetish for rubbing Cuddy's butt!!! :lmao
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Emms » Thu May 18, 2006 8:32 pm

Um yeah...I was thinking that very same thing, Aaron. :lol I can't say I blame him. :D
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Tarababy77 » Fri May 19, 2006 7:07 pm

Emms wrote:Um yeah...I was thinking that very same thing, Aaron. I can't say I blame him.


No complaints here either! LOL. =)
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Hemiola » Wed May 24, 2006 2:25 pm

I enjoyed the season finale, which made excellent use of the "dream-within-a-dream" conceit.

Laurie was excellent as usual, and it was fascinating to watch him reason out that he was, in fact, hallucinating everything (The writers even slyly made fun of the fact that we were watching a TV show--cf. the scene on the stairs where House asks "We were just in ICU. How did we get here?" :lol). Unfortunately, this leaves us with a really horrendous cliff-hanger about who shot House and why! :paranoid

BTW, am I the only one who was REALLY grossed out by the patient with the swollen tongue and the truly horrific scene with the robotic surgery? YIKES!!!!!!! :eek
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Tarababy77 » Wed May 24, 2006 6:09 pm

That tongue thing was blah!!! Not only was it gross, but completely freaky!!! Anyhoo, I must say, that's probably one of my favorite episodes this season. I agree that watching House reason out himself was definitely beautifuly scripted. But, I am so mad on how it ended. I'm sitting on the edge of my seat anxiously waiting for each and every scene, then it stops! I didn't know what to do. I just sat there, thinking in my mind, why did the episode stop? But there is more to be done!?!....

Season finales are complete torture!!! Smiles =)
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Emms » Wed May 24, 2006 6:25 pm

I thought the popping eyeball and the exploding *cough* male genitalia *cringe* was the most disturbing. Finales are always the most shocking episodes.

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Re: HOUSE

Postby Tarababy77 » Thu May 25, 2006 5:35 am

Woops, forgot about the popping out eye ball. WOW. I just thought of something, that woman that House was standing with out side of that guys room, that was the dude's wife, who shot House!?!?! I'm a little slow... =)
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Emms » Fri May 26, 2006 5:57 am

No. You're not slow, Aaron. I didn't get that at first either. I thought the woman was the 'swollen tongue' guy's wife.
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Tarababy77 » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:19 pm

what a great start to season 3. But is it me or is Cameron getting a little annoying? for a few minutes there, I was hoping that she would be put in her place. But, I kinda understand her forcefulness. Anyhoo, just wanted to stir things up for season 3. Smiles. =)
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Hemiola » Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:15 am

Is it just me, or have they STILL not revealed who shot House and why??
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Re: HOUSE

Postby werewolf123 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:22 am

Imo, they only person who shot house last season, was house when he shot himself up with morphine. They are re-doing the fiscus in hell part of saint elsewhere. I am probably wrong.
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Re: HOUSE

Postby seurat » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:07 pm

Aaron, a lot of people have thought Cameron was annoying for a very long time. But not me, and I'd like to think that's not entirely because I'm shallow and JM is extremely pretty. I also do side with her POV about things a lot of the time. Now, Wilson and Cuddy are starting to bother me, I didn't like the whole don't-tell-House-he's-right again scheme, which was doomed to fail anyway. I liked the alien abduction story and certainly had no idea what the solution to the mystery was going to be. That shot of House pulling the cane out of the closet was very touching even if you knew it had to happen -couldn't have House being physically healthy and happy for too long.

As for the shooting, they did kind of leave it hanging, but I expect we'll see more about it later. I don't think it was all in his head though, for one thing the way Cameron and Chase greeted him in the first ep of the season would indicate they believed he had suffered a real traumatic injury and were relieved to see him again.
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Ben Varkentine » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:25 pm

Playing catchup & replying to a couple of different posts...

In the episode I saw a young woman is brought in to the hospital under false pretenses - she's faking an illness in order to end her relationship with her long-term girlfriend (if you just scratched your head, you're not alone).


I finished watching the second season on DVDs yesterday and I think you're mistaken. The young woman in question was not faking the illness that brought her to the hospital, but she had previously lied to her partner about being allergic to dogs. She didn't want them to get one because she was planning to end the relationship.

House is one of those shows that give me really mixed feelings in its treatment of lesbian relationships. On the one hand, I really like the show in general, I think the characterization, performances and writing are excellent. That includes the actresses who have played the two lesbian couples-for the most part they played it very "straight"-you should pardon the expression-and belivable.

And I like the fact that everyone in the show, all the other characters, has taken the relationships seriously and accepted them for what they are-good or bad, these women are in a relationship.

I actually liked it the episode until what TM rightly described as the cynical resolution. Up until then, I thought it was an interesting moral dilemma-which has precedence, your sense of preservation or your sensitivity to another's feelings?-with a nice twist.

The resolution, however, changed the picture of a lesbian couple from one prey to the same frailties and screwups as most of us into one in which one partner is trapped, the other manipulative to an arguably evil degree.

Besides that episode, in the first season the lesbian couple featured were one of two sets of new parents whose babies had both come down with some unknown ailment.

In diagnosing the children, House had to give one medication to one child and a different one to the other, and see if one got better. One did. One didn't. Guess which one.

Again, it was played very simply and movingly, and with great respect for the reality of the terrible loss these women had suffered. But you have to ask-I did anyway-would it have hurt the story if the gay couple had been the ones who got to take their baby home at the end of the day?

I don't think it would've. But once again we have a show in which lesbian always equals doomed to unhappiness. Which brings us back to the question of whether the context of the show is more important than the larger context of the world outside it.

I remember, when all the protests about the doT were going on, a lot of what I heard was "But every relationship on Buffy ends in misery and death!"

But that wasn't true on Buffy, and it's not true on House. The writers do give some of the characters happy endings and a chance at new life.

It's just that the two times they've dealt with lesbian characters so far, they've chosen not to do that.

On the other hand, I'll forgive almost anything for a line like this:

The funny part, to me at least, was that he said he was going to go home and watch The L Word - on mute...


Only way to watch it, as far as I'm concerned...
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Hemiola » Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:20 am

Well, well,well, some interesting developments last night...

For those who weren't watching, the "B" story involved the arrival of a new doctor who gets assigned to House's handicapped parking space which, of course, mightily displeases him. The new doctor is a wheelchair-bound woman named Dr. Witner, and House decides to use a wheelchair himself just to show Dr. Cuddy that he is "just as crippled as she [Witner] is".

In the midst of this "competition", Witner and House confront each other "wheelchair-to-wheelchair" and proceed to try and "out-snark" each other. House leeringly remarks that using the chair doesn't allow him to "look down Cuddy's shirt" as easily as he used to, but that it gave him a really good view of "her nice ass." Whereupon the following dialogue ensues--

Dr. Witner (smiling wickedly): It is rather nice, isn't it?
House (at first gobsmacked, but soon realizes what she is implying): Oh, no, you're not going to win me over that easily! :roflol

If she hangs around (and doesn't die or go insane ;-) ), Dr. Witner could turn into a very interesting addition to the show! :party
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Re: HOUSE

Postby Ben Varkentine » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:35 pm

IIRC, the actual line was after House made a reference to Cuddy's "c-cups," and Witner said "They are nice, aren't they?" I wasn't sure if she just said that to be snarky or if they were really saying something about her character, but I liked the line too....
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Re: HOUSE

Postby river » Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:21 am

i love Dr House (its called like that in germany)
its so funny every single episode. and i worked a long time in hospital so i know some stuff. but he is doing everything very easy and funny!
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