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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby aceivan » Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:58 pm

http://www.timeout.com/film/news/606.html



Edinburgh - Day Five

Chris Tilly checks out Joss Whedon's 'Serenity' and attends a special masterclass by Thelma Schoonmaker.
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August 25 2005

Time Out oversleeps this morning, nearly missing the critic's screening of 'Serenity', which would be a crime considering the amount of hype surrounding the film at this year’s festival.

The celluloid reincarnation of Joss Whedon's cancelled TV show 'Firefly', the film has been generating buzz ever since its Edinburgh premiere was announced, and tickets for the few public screenings sold out in a matter of minutes.

But what of the film itself we hear you cry…well, as a well-known advert often proclaims, it does exactly what it says on the tin.

From the off, it feels like you've stumbled into the middle of an expensive, extended slice of TV action, meaning that those unfamiliar with 'Firefly' will struggle to understand just what in the name of Zeus the characters are talking about.

A prologue explains some of the back story, but the amount of exposition packed into the first hour left me and my journalist colleagues confused, frustrated and at times, ever so slightly bored.

Similarly, the action and plot have an all too familiar feel, as if the creators stuck 'Star Wars', 'Star Trek' and umpteen other 'westerns in space' into a melting pot to create the perfect sci-fi hybrid.

That said, the fact that the actors all worked on the aforementioned series means that there's a nice sense of camaraderie amongst the film's disparate cast of characters, and Whedon certainly has a fine ear for dialogue, with 'Serenity' possessing more good one-liners than any other film we've seen this year.

Nevertheless, smart put-downs do not a great sci-fi make, and 'Serenity' seems like the kind of film that will split audiences down the middle, stirring those that are already fans of the franchise but leaving non-believers distinctly unmoved.

Following that mild disappointment, TO then proceeds to another of the festival's most eagerly anticipated events, namely the Reel Life talk from Thelma Schoonmaker.

Already a legend in her own lifetime, having edited the bulk of Martin Scorsese's films for the last 20 years, Schoonmaker isn't in Edinburgh to talk about herself however, but rather to discuss the work of her late husband, Michael Powell.

Director of such classics as 'A Matter of Life and Death', 'The Red Shoes', 'Black Narcissus' and 'Peeping Tom', 2005 marks the 100th anniversary of his birth, and Schoonmaker's wonderful presentation proves to be a fitting celebration of a remarkable career.

Discussing everything from his use of sound and doubles to his careful selection of cast, she punctuates her points with wonderful clips from Powell's timeless classics, with selected scenes from 'The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp' proving particularly popular with the audience.

Schoonmaker also uses snatches from 'Raging Bull' and 'GoodFellas' to illustrate just how extensively Powell has influenced and informed Scorsese's work throughout the years.

An unforgettable event, the 100-minute masterclass proves to be the highlight of this, or any other festival; an emotional insight into the life and times of one of cinema's true greats.


Chris Tilly



There's obviously no comparison between Joss Whedon and the likes of Thelma Schoonmaker, Michael Powell or Martin Scorsese.

Serenity has been mentioned a couple of times in the Scottish news, but in everything I've watched on TV they showed clips of much better movies, and nothing has been said about any non-fans even wanting to see it, never mind liking it.

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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby Sheridan » Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:27 am

Nevertheless, smart put-downs do not a great sci-fi make, and 'Serenity' seems like the kind of film that will split audiences down the middle, stirring those that are already fans of the franchise but leaving non-believers distinctly unmoved.

Well I wouldn't call a spilt between fans and everyone else exactly down the middle, more like 90-10 in favour of the 'non-believers'.
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby gspiggott » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:18 pm

I'm waiting for the post from a Jossphile explaining Powell's debt to Whedon or how if he were working today he would make something like Serenity.
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby sam7777 » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:32 pm

Well Sereneshit sounds like it's just like all the crap Josswad and his little band of shits at ME have been putting out for years. They really have only one trick and just keep doing it over and over as their fan base gets smaller and smaller.

A month out and there is still no buzz for Sereneshit. OTOH Peter Jackson's "King Kong" also from Universal is regularily making the press and it won't come out till December.

I'm still betting Serenity will do "Highlander: Endgame" numbers: (from imdb.com)
$6,223,330 Opening Weekend
$12,801,190 Total Gross
That would be bad for a $50million film like Sereneshit

Box office has been down all Summer:
http://www2.presstelegram.com/business/ci_2977090
2005 was summer of discontent
Entertainment: Moviegoing dipped 12% this season.
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Still, Labor Day weekend will bring to an end what has largely been the movie industry's summer of discontent. Domestic attendance for the season, which typically accounts for about 40 percent of the year's ticket sales, is projected to lag behind 2004 by 12 percent with box office receipts down by more than 9 percent.

"There were a lot of weekends where there were just no winners," said Jeff Blake of Sony Pictures Entertainment. Since the beginning of May, there have been only three weekends where sales surpassed those from the same weekend the previous year.

The longest slump in the history of the film industry has led to much debate and reflection
...
Several industry experts said word of mouth, good or bad, is now spreading faster than ever among movie-savvy audiences.

"We got the message loud and clear that moviegoing isn't necessarily going to happen in the summer season every week unless there is something motivating the audience," said Blake.

Personally judging from what I've read here, word of mouth will hurt Sereneshit more than help it.
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby aceivan » Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:19 am

I got an e-mail from Metro Comics which included an ad for the Serenity comic. Apparently Whedon is "writing comic books in between producing TV shows and directing motion pictures". That would be no TV shows and one low budget sci-fi movie, guys.

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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby Warduke » Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:01 am

From TVShowsOnDVD.com...

Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Buffy-licious Box Art for Complete Collection

Posted by David Lambert 8/30/2005


At the beginning of this month we disclosed the first information about Buffy the Vampire Slayer - The Complete Collection, a 40-DVD set that contains all seven seasons of the series. As we said at the time, that 40th disc is a newly-made bonus DVD which contains a never-seen Joss Whedon documentary.

Now we have a formal description for this release that Fox has sent around to retailers, plus a small look at the very nice packaging which this release will be contained in:

This beautifully designed, Limited Edition collectible box contains all 7 seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, plus a bonus disk containing a brand new documentary featuring creator Joss Whedon. Each box is individually numbered for increased collectibility and value, and will also contain a signed letter from Whedon and an exclusive comprehensive book with episode listings and memorable Buffy quotes.

SRP is $199.98 in the USA, but you can pre-order it from Amazon.com for $139.99 right now, and lock in your copy. Canadians get a CA$349.98 SRP, but you guys up north can pre-order it from Amazon.ca for $244.99. November 15th is the day that this set rises from the grave!

Also, we're working on nailing down the exact street date for the general retail release of Buffy The Vampire Slayer - Spike: Love Is Hell (which has been a Best Buy exclusive so far). We hope to be back later today or perhaps tomorrow with word from Fox that clears up two conflicting dates we've been given. Stay tuned for that, and if we get a better shot of this Complete Collection packaging (yeah, it's smaller and blurrier than we would like) then we'll bring it to you pronto as well!


...a newly-made bonus DVD which contains a never-before seen Joss Whedon documentary... :sleep
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby aceivan » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:25 am

Most of the fans will already have the DVDs, so that's $139.99 for a documentary and a letter.

will also contain a signed letter from Whedon


"Thanks sucker! Love Joss."

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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby WebWarlock » Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:52 pm

I heard about this a bit ago.

Even the Whedonites are bitching about it.

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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby sam7777 » Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:41 pm

Personally, I don;t think there is much of a demand for that shit given how hard it was to sell off my friend's DVD sets for seasons 1-4 in the used market a few months ago. Like Aceivan said, the ME zombies already have them and the show hasn't generated a new audience in years. What a rip off!
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby WebWarlock » Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:45 am

Or more like "Actor NOT escaping ME".

Pity poor James Marsters. The guy could play the best role of his life and get numerous awards and there will still be assholes asking for a Spike movie.

From SciFi (duh.)
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/inde ... 251&type=0

Clock Ticking For Spike Movie

James Marsters—who played peroxided vampire Spike in Buffy the Vampire Slayer and its spinoff series, Angel—told fans at the Rue Morgue Festival of Fear that he's been approached informally about reprising the character in a Spike TV movie, but that it better happen sooner than later if he's to be part of it. According to a report on the Dread Central Web site, Marsters said: "I am willing to put Spike to rest, but I would love to play him again. There are constant rumblings in the background that there would be a project that would have that happen. I have been approached on the periphery about it, kind of like, 'We're not really thinking of doing this, but if we did, would you be interested?'"

Marsters added that Buffy/Angel creator Joss Whedon approached him "when Angel was still filming and asked me if I'd be interested in a TV movie, and I said, 'Hell, yeah. But you have five years.' Because this character read as a 27-year-old. [When I first took the role], I was 35 then, but kind of looked 27. Now I'm 43 looking like a 35-year-old, but my character is not supposed to age one day. I think I could maybe match that first shot, but I think I maybe have about two more years [left]."


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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby urnofosiris » Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:41 am

43? Wasn´t he like 40 five years ago. Rather modest to think he looks like he is 35, having seen him up close and without make-up I´d kinda have to disagree, but make-up and special effects work wonders I guess. I would not call him a poor guy though, he is the one actor that makes no secret about being interested in reviving that which has died and decomposed. That´s his business of course, but if he wants to be known for something other than Spike he could try moving on, get other work, distance himself from the part like Aly, SMG, Michelle Trachtenberg etc.
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby aceivan » Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:56 am

I came across this very old news by accident and couldn't help having a little snigger:

Noxon Confirms Buffy Season 8
From Sci Fi Wire
Despite rumblings that next season will be Buffy the Vampire Slayer's last, executive producer Marti Noxon told SCI FI Wire that she thinks an eighth season of the UPN show is likely, even though its star's contract expires after season seven. "I think that it's very likely there will be [a season eight]," Noxon said in an interview. "I'm not sure if Sarah [Michelle Gellar] will come back or not, but it's really up to UPN and 20th Century Fox if the franchise continues. It would be very hard to continue the show without her, but they might try."


I seem to remember an interview with Michelle in which she said she had been asked if she would be prepared to take over the lead role and she seemed to like the idea. How times change! These days James seems to be the only actor wanting to make a movie set in the Buufyverse.

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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby aceivan » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:19 pm

Another couple of reviews for Serenity, one from a hardcore fan who thinks that this is what Revenge of the Sith should have been like:

http://www.iofilm.co.uk/fm/s/serenity_2005_r2.shtml

Serenity is darker than Firefly, but considerably more thrilling. The use of crude visual effects highlights the homespun production values and visual ideas effectively. Whedon's highly accomplished intrascene editorial pacing and exhilarating action direction aside, the film quite simply feels complete, in much the way that Star Wars was, back in 1977.


and the other from a non-fan:

http://www.iofilm.co.uk/fm/s/serenity_2005.shtml


Two hours later, I'm still none the wiser as to what the fuss is about. It's competently done in terms of direction, visuals and effects, but the plotting and characterisation leave much to be desired, with the concept also less innovative than I'd been led to believe. Overall, it's nothing special - enough to appeal to cultists, no doubt, but insufficient to reach wider audiences who are hardly starved for sci-fi.


Plus, as the Star Wars, Star Trek and Matrix-isms suggest - along with many other films - it really isn't all that original. Blake 7, for example, did the whole dystopian shades of grey sci-fi thing far better, with greater honesty and intelligence on a small fraction of the budget.


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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby Sheridan » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:09 am

The use of crude visual effects highlights the homespun production values and visual ideas effectively

Or to put it another way they couldn't even get the effects right in this debacle. The fans, both of them, might enjoy those 'homespun' production values but the rest of us expect a product that doesn't look half finished.
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby sam7777 » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:04 am

It's competently done in terms of direction, visuals and effects, but the plotting and characterisation leave much to be desired, with the concept also less innovative than I'd been led to believe.

This is very telling IMHO. Plotting and characterisation are two things that Josswad has forgotten how to do and Sereneshit doesn't show any improvement for him in that area. Sereneshit is like "Highlander: Endgame" another failed TV show to film (though Higlander had 5 more seasons) with a niche audience and will not have any appeal beyond the fanboys. Certainly, not enough to justify a $40million budget in a film release. I wonder how you can spend that much have have "homespun production values". Sky Captain also spent $40million and looked anything but homespun. If it looks like a TV show that is because the director didn't have a clue how to make it cinematic.
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby aceivan » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:59 am

The thing I can't understand is that the Whedon fan uses "crude visual effects" as if its a good thing. I love watching low budget British sci-fi, but I like them despite the poor special effects not because of them.

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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby urnofosiris » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:03 pm

Crappy effects do not belong in "big" sci-fi or fantasy movies nowadays, unless it is a parody. It may be endearing in old films, but would we have loved LotR as much if we could for example see the strings on the flying beasties and monsters. And that movie had a fantastic story, characters and actors going for it. If the plot and characters are weak in this movie at least the visuals should be superb. Where the fuck did that 50 million go to anyway, not towards the pay checks of the cast I bet.
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby gspiggott » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:18 pm

I read somewhere that in one of the trailers the only name mentioned is Joss Whedon. No wonder he's so in love with it. Has it gotten any good reviews from non fanboy types?
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby Sheridan » Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:28 pm

Where the fuck did that 50 million go to anyway, not towards the pay checks of the cast I bet.

A very good question, I assumed that the effects was where most of the budget went. I guess that it must have gone on salaries for the director and writer, and maybe the guy who came up with 'Firefly' in the first place, hmm now who could that be? :wtf
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby sam7777 » Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:34 am

A real artist puts the money up on the screen and not into his pocket.
The thing I can't understand is that the Whedon fan uses "crude visual effects" as if its a good thing. I love watching low budget British sci-fi, but I like them despite the poor special effects not because of them.

Aceivan: Yep. "Red Dwarf" was great and one could overlook the cheesy FX for great characterization, story, plot and humor. But Sereneshit has none of that and crappy FX. Why would anyone who hasn't drunk the ME kool aid want to watch that shit?

Less than a month to the premiere of Sereneshit and still not buzz in the mainstream media or much even in the genre press. By this point, people were talking about "Sky Captain" which is a good movie to compare to Sereneshit. Both cost $40million to make (according to IMDB, the $50million for Sereneshit may include marketting or not was reported elswhere), are genre films and have a September release. A big difference is that a goodly part of the buzz for "Sky Captain" came from the stars: Law, Jolie, Paltrow and the innovative special FX (all sets created in the computer). According to IMDB.com, "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" cost $40,000,000 to make and took in $15,580,278 on it's opening weekend (19 September 2004) with a total gross of $41,962,860 [$37,760,080 (USA) + £1,283,945 (UK) + €1,488,484 (currency convert from xe.com as of today)]. Respectable but not that good. It made it's profit on DVD sales.

Personally without the buzz, I don't think Sereneshit will do that well. I see it with "Highlander: Endgame" numbers. There are alot of similarites between the two. Both came from cancelled TV shows (though Highlander had 5 more seasons so was not a failed piece of shit like Fireshit), are genre films and have a September release. The big difference here is that "Highlander: Endgame" cost a lot less to make than Sereneshit. According to IMDB.com, "Highlander: Endgame" cost $15,000,000 to make and took in $6,223,330 on it's opening weekend (3 September 2000) with a total gross of $13,277,758 [$12,801,190 (USA) + €384,591 (currency convert from xe.com as of today)]. Once again, respectable but not that good. It also made it's profit on DVD sales.

September is simply not a great time to release genre films. The highest grossing September released Genre film (going back to 1985) was "Resident Evil: Apocalypse". Like Sereneshit, "Resident Evil: Apocalypse" was a genre film released in September with a similar budget but with a star (Milla Jovovich) and with alot more buzz (I remember seeing ads for it in the movie theatres while I have seen none for Sereneshit, btw it was a cool ad making fun of a corporate ad but I digress). According to IMDB.com, Resident Evil: Apocalypse" cost $43,000,000 to make and took in $23,036,273 on it's opening weekend (12 September 2004) with a US gross of $50,740,078 and a total gross of $129,394,835 (Worldwide). A very good showing but no comparison with the likes of "Sweet Home Alabama" the top grossing September movie. "Sweet Home Alabama" cost $38,000,000 and grossed $35,648,740 it's opening weekend (29 September 2002) and $127,214,072 in the US.

Looking at the other September genre releases: Sky Captain, Resident Evil and Highlander, we can see that a September genre release can optimistically hope for moderate success. Factors that can help is having a star like Sky Captain and Resident Evil did or a lower budget like Highlander did. In particular, US grosses are soft for genre stuff in September necessistating a worldwide appeal as Resident Evil had with international star, Milla Jovovich and an action oriented plot that translates well overseas. Films that rely on dialogue and American cultural in jokes like "Sweet Home Alabama" and Sereneshit simply do not do well overseas. "Sweet Home Alabama" grossed $127,214,072 but only $13,699,617 (just 10% of US gross) overseas [£5,331,446 (UK) + €3,161,027 (currency convert from xe.com as of today)]. Highlander was a joint French (Graumont) and American production and still did very little overseas business due to lack of buzz. Sereneshit shares it's lack of buzz and doesn't have the built in overseas audince that the Highlander series had. Lackluster special FX certainly won't help.

Sereneshit should have been a DVD release given at best a "Highlander: Endgame" budget since it only has a very niche appeal or even better not been made as a movie at all IMHO. A waste of time and money overall when you consider all the many actual talents out there who could really do something with a $40million budget.

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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby Garner » Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:06 am

I have heard a little bit of interest from the general SF community that go through the comic/game store I work at, but not much. Some are watching the show on SF, but more are watching SG-1 and Atlantis. I think that Sam is right, the results will be low revenue, similar to Highlander Endgame, and hopefully poor DVD sales too. If there were just some way to make the film do worse...I at least refused a free ticket to go see it. Bah, no spoiling these eyes. At least anymore than they already have. :)

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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby sam7777 » Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:48 am

I have heard a little bit of interest from the general SF community that go through the comic/game store I work at, but not much.

That's interesting because it is certainly not being talked about at my local comics shop (V for Vendetta & Batman are the big things there) and I have been there 2-3 times/week the last month picking up manga and renting anime. Josswad's comics are on the shelves in stacks and aren't selling much there either. Fireshit found no favor with the guys there, customers or employees. Mostly they thought it was lame and not SciFi at all.

I consider it to have no buzz because if I didn't come here, I wouldn't know that it existed. OTOH I knew about both Sky Captain and Resident Evil a long while before they came out thru articles, movie trailers etc without making any effort to look for them either. I remember seeing articles on Sky Captain in the regular press a year before it came out. And there's no comparison with the buzz that "King Kong" is getting. If Universal is marketting this shit, they aren't doing it anywhere near me and considering that I live in major market Los Angeles that's not a good sign.

ETA: I see a couple of movies being released the same time as Sereneshit that have more buzz: "Into the Blue", "A History of Violence":
http://www.movievine.com/movies/article00231.shtml
New Movie : Into the Blue - In Theaters September 30th
Sep 8, 2005, 01:31
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When four young free divers (Paul Walker, Jessica Alba, Scott Caan and Ashley Scott) come upon a legendary shipwreck - rumored to contain millions in gold - they believe their dream of buried treasure has come true. But nearby on the ocean floor, they unearth another, more sinister mystery. The fortune-hunting friends make a pact to keep quiet about both discoveries so they can excavate the shipwreck before a rival treasure hunter discovers their secret and beats them to the gold. But with so much at stake, their loyalties are tested. Facing hidden dangers at every turn, the hunters suddenly become the hunted.

I know that I have been seeing trailers for this flick since July. It's go some genre star power with Jessica Alba of "Dark Angel" and "Sin City" fame.

"A History of Violence" is getting quite a bit of play in the regular press thanks to the Toronto Film festival and also the genre press:

http://superherohype.com/news.php?id=3476
New Clip From A History of Violence
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/648/648835p1.html
Exclusive Clips: A History of Violence

It has star power both infront of the camera with Viggo Mortensen starring and behind the camera with David Cronenberg directing. It's based on a graphic novel giving it some genre creds and there is even oscar buzz to draw in September's older audiences as well.

"A History of Violence" has a limited release sep 23 but it's wide release is Sep 30.

Editted cuz the release of "Lord of War" was moved to this weekend from Sep 30. Still if "Lord of War" hits, it could still be in the top 10 and impact Serenity/
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby Warduke » Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:00 pm

From TV Guide...

Date Question Asked:
08/30/2005

Question Asked:
All this talk about Joss Whedon's lovefest with Veronica Mars — is it possible he will write an episode?

Question Asked By: Jim

Answer:
Let's ask Rob Thomas! "We would certainly welcome that, though he hasn't offered up those services." OK, lemme track down Joss and make this thing happen.

Answered By: Ausiello
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09/14/2005

Question: So in your last AA column, you said you were going to try to talk to Joss Whedon about writing an episode of Veronica Mars? Did you get in touch somehow? What say he? — Michael

Ausiello: Yes, and here's the response he gave me via e-mail: "I think they are doing fine without me." Well, let's face it, they are.


Let's hope Rob Thomas was only being nice. If he values his show at all, he'll keep that fucking cancer away from VM.
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby sam7777 » Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:07 pm

TV Tattle tale is reporting that Rob Thomas is having Josswad guest star on his show.
http://tvtattle.com/
Joss Whedon to guest star on "Veronica Mars"
"Veronica" creator Rob Thomas was so taken by the "Buffy" creator's praise that he invited him for a cameo. "We're firming up plans to have him play a testy, rental car manager in episode six," says Thomas, who's also decided to become a "Buffy" fan via his Netflix que. "

I don't watch VM as the ep with Aly last season was ok but did not inspire me to keep watching so I know I won't see it.
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby WebWarlock » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:17 am

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?id=32469

Here is a quote that might make someone cough up coffee.

Joss Whedon, who is writing and will direct the upcoming Wonder Woman movie, told SCI FI Wire that he wants to give the venerable franchise the Batman Begins treatment, making sure fans get what they want: the costume, the bracelets, the lasso, maybe even the invisible jet.
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and I've got to find a place for it. But I think people want it, and I think I can do it without ... it being campy, believe it or not. And I respect those things. I, in fact, love them."


Funny how he now want's to give the fans what they want.

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Postby Sheridan » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:23 am

Well since he seems unlikely to have to deliver on his promises as far as the Wonder Woman film goes hecan promise what he likes. Of course if by some disaster he does wind up actaully making it he'll just claim he was trying to throw people off the scent and screw it into the ground regardless.
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Postby sam7777 » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:48 am

Sheridan: Agreed.
Joss Whedon, who is writing and will direct the upcoming Wonder Woman movie

Hey show me the contract!! I remember when he was writing and directing X-men 3. The guys who are actually doing that (Brett Ratne, Zak Penn & Simon Kinberg) have contracts where is Josswad's? There is no more progress with Josswad doing it than there was for other writers who have done scripts for Silver:
http://comics2film.com/ProjectFrame.php?f_id=27
Jon Cohen (Minority Report) ..... Screenwriter
Todd Alcott (13 Ghosts) ..... Screenwriter
Becky Johnston (Price of Tides) ..... Screenwriter
Philip Levens (Smallville) ..... Screenwriter
Laeta Kalogridis (Birds of Prey) ..... Screenwriter


SHOW ME DA MONEY!!!!

Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnn!!!!!!! I'll believe it when it's at my local multiplex and I don't go to see it. Soon we'll be hearing about Ripper, the Toon and a monthly comic. We're already hearing more lies about the telefilm. Siiiiggghhhh!!!! I wish these guys would turn over the record and find some new shit to lie about. It seems all their creativity is now going to making up projects that they won't be doing rather than any actual creative work.
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby helpfulinformationperhaps » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:16 am

saw a tv ad for fireflop this weekend - boy was it ever bad - if this is suppose to stir interest - it failed - best I could do was a yawn
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Re: Containing Vectors-Tracking ME Writers

Postby gspiggott » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:09 pm

The new issue of Dreamwatch gives Serenity a meh review. They picked the Neil Gaiman film as their movie of the month, and I believe both films open the same weekend. Once upon a time this would have been a slam dunk for JW.
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Postby WebWarlock » Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:01 am

I love the smell of fear.

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?id=32539

Whedon Not Serene About Serenity

Joss Whedon, writer and director of the upcoming SF movie Serenity, told SCI FI Wire that he's just starting to get nervous about the potential reception for his film, which is based on his failed Fox TV series Firefly. "How nervous am I? Uh, I'm actually pretty calm," Whedon said in a new conference in Beverly Hills, Calif. "I am being medicated right now steadily to keep me that way. I got really nervous when I realized, ultimately, I have absolutely no idea how this movie is going to do. I believe that if people see it, they will like it, and that is sort of my first job, and I feel like that was more or less accomplished. But I have no idea if they actually will see it. And if they don't see it, how can they like it?"

Serenity picks up the story of Capt. Mal Reynolds (Nathan Fillion) and the crew of a transport ship 500 years in the future as they run the edge of the galaxy trying to evade the malevolent Alliance and the rapacious Reavers. Though the show was canceled in the middle of its first season, it found a loyal audience on DVD.

Whedon said that he's trying not to panic on the eve of Serenity's premiere. "I sort of realized it's out of my hands," he said. "I will do everything in my power to try and get people to see it, but there's only so much that's in my power, and if that they don't, ... or if they—how can I put this?—hate it, then that's just ... what's going to happen. There's nothing I really can do about it. I believe in the film. I loved making it. I love what we came up with. I love everyone. I'm really proud of all my actors. So that's going to have to sustain me. You know, that's me now. Talk to me on the morning of the 30th, when I'm hiding in the bathtub with a hat on." Serenity opens Sept. 30. It's being released by Universal Pictures, which is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.


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