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Re: Even more Chapter 14 replies

Postby xita » Tue Dec 31, 2002 2:33 pm

Man that was good. Poor Willow and brave Tara. They can't stand the thought of the other hurt. Willow should have worded her wish a little better. Oh i know i know, wishes bad, I can't help it though, maybe I am like Willow :p What a dilema for willow now, she knows they can grow old together and be with each other, but she's scared of Tara dying. GOsh good lord, that's a big problem. HUGE problem.

If I had to live my life again, I'd make the same mistakes, only sooner.

Tallulah Bankhead

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Re: Chapter 15a: Old Friends

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Tue Dec 31, 2002 3:03 pm

OK, DMW, just keep drawing me in nearer and nearer and breaking my heart in all the right ways. (How's that for an oxymoron?)



See, we knew that the wish Willow made of Anyanka didn't work out, and yet we didn't know HOW it wouldn't work out. And it turns out that it "failed" b/c Tara sacrificed herself instead of letting Willow live. I think (and tell me if I'm reading too much into this here) that that flashback does more than underscore the lengths to which Willow has gone to resurrect Tara, but also a telling glimpse into Tara's wisdom (in addition to her loving spirit, which we all admire). I've always thought that Tara was the wisest of any of them, including in her acceptance of the incredible interweaving of all of the strands in Fate's tapestry. Willow has always believed that she can alter reality, bend it to her not-inconsiderable will, but what happens every time she does? ("Uh, nothing good, Mary," came the deafening reply from across the board.) Even now, Willow has access to Tara's soul but not by virtue of actually changing the course of reality.



All that by way of saying that I just so enjoy and get wrapped up in this fic.



Have a great New Year's Eve, all Kittens, and be safe wherever you are.



Mary

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Re: Chapter 15a: Old Friends

Postby Grimlock72 » Tue Dec 31, 2002 3:06 pm

I totally understand Willow's way of thinking here since I share much of the same concerns. Tara really can't understand the range of what she's asking because she just doesn't know all that much about Willow. She also lacks experience of course, it's somewhat amazing they already fit so well given the huge age difference.



The protection-spell and whatever to put it on Tara yes or no is an interesting question (bit highlander-like). It sounds like a rather expensive spell as far as the magic needed for it. I doubt Tara would feel comfortable with Willow using so much dark magic to protect her, probably would think herself not worthy. Though you can reason that it's for the best of the entire world really that Tara is well protected, heh :) .



The wish: I'm dissappointed in Willow for formulating the wish like that. I spotted the likely outcome the second she finished stating her wish, surely she should have seen that one coming. Much better would have been to have the nerd's rocketpacks explode on use (yes, both of them) or have Warren's gun jam and/or explode on him.



But really.. to move Tara out of the line of fire in that setup... is rather dumb. She must have focussed to much on keeping Tara save to realize the consequences, no other reason I can think of.



Growing old with Tara: that's not going to happen now is it ? Willow wont age at all, which gives her the same problem as a Vamp/Human realation. She would get to see Tara age and eventually die from old age. Unless she plans to cancel her Youth Spell anytime soon, can it be cancelled ??



I too wonder if Anya let Tara break her amulet. She might have, they were sorta friends after all.



I think the promise Willow made to Tara in the previous chapter was fairly simple; Willow wont use any dark magic from this point forward. The meaning itself is easy enough to understand, the problem is with the consequences of such a promise (I believe Tara made Willow promise that mostly because she's concerned for Willow so I forgive her :) ).



I don't think Wilow should cancel all her current protection-spells, no matter if they were created using dark magic. For starters, she already paid the price for those spells so she might as well have the benefits of them. Secondly, I'm not sure what would happen if that body-protection spell would be cancelled. Remember that that spell prevented Willow from being killed by submachine-gun fire, don't want that damage to return.



Sneaky line at the end there: "the person who caused all of this". I think Willow refers to the fact that Tara might be upset with her now she knows some of Willow's history. She see Giles as causing that, which is factually correct. Whatever it was a bad thing Giles told Tara is debatable, which I hope is what they'll talk about.



I hope Willow wont turn her fear/insecurity of losing Tara again (due to her past with dark magics and all) into hate/anger towards Giles, though she has some valid reasons to be angry with him. Just keep it reasonable, repeating a pattern would not be good here. Willow does need someone to talk to who knows her from when she was young. Giles seems to be the only one remaining, now if both of them can remain calm and talk a bit.....



Oh yeah, I'm curious as to Tara Lucas' thought on this as well. Suppose we'll read those later on. I'll guess that Spirit doesn't particulary care much exactly how evil is defeated. As long as it is. Comes with being a Slayer and young I suppose :D



Ok, this reply is long enough by now... getting obsessive and such : -->>:



Happy new year, be carefull with fireworks (the non-magical kind of course:) ). :bounce





Grimmy (2 hours and 5 minutes to new year, hehehe)

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

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Re: Chapter 15a: Old Friends

Postby LeatherQueen » Tue Dec 31, 2002 3:09 pm

Great chapter as always, DMW. I really, really love the Anya part here. That was one area that was not pursued on the show, and I always wondered why, because it made the most sense for Willow to at least attempt the wish.



But your version of the vengeance wish is great, and leaves us with an explanation as to why it wouldn't work.



Or actually it did work... just not with the results Willow wanted.





"We've got the only librarian who can rip off your arm with his leg. People respect that." - Terry Pratchett

LeatherQueen
 


Chapter 15a replies

Postby darkmagicwillow » Tue Dec 31, 2002 4:57 pm

My new year's eve's plans fell through so it looks like I'll be here with the Kittens tonight. I got promised a party for next week in recompense, and I have lots of feedback to read, so that's not half bad.





tiredsoul: Thanks. Yes, Tara made Anya human again, and made herself another friend if she only remembered.



Silver: I'll post the rest of the chapter on Friday so you won't have long to wait.



sheila wt: Willow wanted to make as small change as possible in the theory that that would be least likely to hurt people, and she could have used magic even without Tara's death to save Buffy. You'll see Giles soon.



SB: I had a dream last night that I was reading a story of yours on Pens. I started to look for it this morning, then I remembered that it was but a dream. Alas.



39 doesn't seem so old to me anymore either. Passing 30 does that to a person. There's more of "Old Friends" to come though and I'm sure Giles would qualify as superannuated by most standards, or am I digging myself deeper here?



It looks like I didn't make it clear enough that the Anya scene was a flashback to before Willow met the new Tara. Sorry. I like your thoughts about "going away" though as that was something I hadn't seen about this chapter, and it really fits, even with the parts I haven't posted. Have you been reading ahead? (-; I was thinking about this chapter being about reconnecting with past relationships, but you've made me realize that it's also, perhaps even moreso, about disconnecting.



You're so right about the conflicts in Willow's wish. She wants Tara to have their history so they can be back together as they were, but she also knows that their past presents a barrier to their relationship in the present.



yana: Perhaps not everything is Giles' fault, but she blames her current troubles with Tara on him because of how Tara learned about their past.



xita: It's good to see you back. I love your sig quote--it really fits this story with the second chances given to both Willow and Tara.



AntigoneUnbound: Thank you, and I hope you forgive me for the heartbreaking. I like how you pick up on Tara's presence here though she's never seen. You're so right about her wisdom, and Willow's belief in her own ability to change reality. Sometimes Willow's way is right, but her will needs to be tempered by Tara's wisdom.



Grimmy: There wasn't any way the lower beings would have let Willow's wish succeed and be happy with Tara. They like her dark, and any wish can be twisted, no matter how simple or how legalistic. I thought of quite a few, starting with Warren not being born which could have had huge repercussions like for instance his father focusing on his career instead of his son, ending up working for the mayor and using his scientific abilities to ensure the mayor's ascension.



Perhaps the rocket packs would release toxic chemicals when they explode that would kill Willow or Warren could have had one of his high tech weapons that was even worse as a backup when his pistol failed. The bullet wouldn't have hit Willow in the original setup, but Tara not being there caused other small things to change such as Willow standing in her place.



There's no way to be sure what will happen when your words are interpreted by another. Wishing is much like writing that way, though the Kittens are much nicer than Anya's source. (-;



Fireworks? I don't get fireworks for new year's. Why do you get fireworks?



LeatherQueen: Thanks. I thought about the wish the moment Osiris failed, and I wanted to fit that in here. And without any cheesy reasons for it not working like Tara's death being of natural causes. Didn't Buffy die from hitting the pavement anyway? That's certainly what I thought until Osiris tried to excuse himself.

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

darkmagicwillow
 


Re: Chapter 15a: Old Friends

Postby JustSkipIt » Tue Dec 31, 2002 5:57 pm

DMW, wow. Excellent, brilliant, and awesome. I love the way the whole thing is set up. With Willow's being unsure as she leaves Tara's. Also, that they didn't fall into bed after the day. Perfect and accurate. In character for both. Will Willow age quickly now to catch up?



Then you said that she lost her twice and I was like, "huh"? Twice? How so. But then you laid it out so perfectly. Of course that's exactly the problem with any wish, any intention to change what has already happened. At first I wanted a wish to bring tara back to the show but it was so obvious that that would kill Buffy (although it might be a good trade given that Tara's death is the price for Buffy's life to Willow). And what if bringing Tara back means Willow doesn't kill Warren and he kills 3 more people or 27 or who knows?



It's a tricky business how every action and event in the universe affects every other one to come. In my adolescence I believed that I only affected and was affected by my immediate world. But now I know that everything is so connected and every action and thought I make creates the universe as does everyone else's. Ok, rambled into philosophy and religion there. But great job! Well done. Happy New Year. Debra

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"War may be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is still evil." -- President Jimmy Carter after receiving the Nobel Peace Prize

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Re: Chapter 15a replies

Postby JustSkipIt » Tue Dec 31, 2002 6:03 pm

Quote:
Didn't Buffy die from hitting the pavement anyway?




I always thought she died from passing through the portal and then hit the ground after she was dead. Thus - not natural causes but supernatural ones. Just my interpretation. Debra

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"War may be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is still evil." -- President Jimmy Carter after receiving the Nobel Peace Prize

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Re: Chapter 15a: Old Friends

Postby Grimlock72 » Tue Dec 31, 2002 6:36 pm

Debra wrote:

Quote:


Then you said that she lost her twice and I was like, "huh"? Twice? How so.






When I read it the first time around I figured once was when Glory stole Tara's mind and 2nd one when she was shot. Looking back it could refer to how the wish went as well...hmm....



Lots of speculation on such a wish was done on several groups following _Seeing Red_. Having the rocketpacks blow up seemed the safest wish at the time. Though if those pesky lower beings don't want to cooperate....grrr :rage



Most of the fireworks are already done here, about $50 mln worth went up in an hour.. not bad for a small country :D



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

Grimlock72
 


Re: Chapter 15a replies

Postby barnabasvamp » Tue Dec 31, 2002 10:09 pm

Excellent speculation with the "wish" being switched by Tara, which would be exactly what she would do.



I enjoyed Willow's thoughts on everything, including not being willing to wish again, and take any chances.



Great update.

BV

"In front of total strangers won't you kiss me, Flowers for no reason but you miss me - OOH, I wanna be in love"

Melissa Etheridge-Skin

barnabasvamp
 


Re: Chapter 15a replies

Postby darkmagicwillow » Wed Jan 01, 2003 10:57 am

JustSkipIt: Thanks. They're just beginning to understand what Tara's return means so it's right that they're unsure even though they've passed the first hurdle. Willow's spells of protection remain despite her promise. Nothing has changed that might make her age.



I just don't konow why passing through the portal would have killed her; the demons who entered Sunnydale seemed fine. Of course, I also thought they should stop the flow of blood by bandaging Dawn instead of sacrificing Buffy.



Grimmy: Thinking of a certain small country, I found a grocery near my new home that carries all sorts of Dutch foods including my favorite: stroopwaffel.



barnabasvamp: Glad Tara's action felt right to you. It was a hard thing to have her do.

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

Edited by: darkmagicwillow at: 1/1/03 8:58:23 am
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Re: Chapter 15a: Old Friends

Postby VampNo12 » Wed Jan 01, 2003 3:54 pm

Fascinating update DMW! I just loved this line, ("Tara was her sun and she was a lonely comet that had shone gloriously in her reflected light but which was now receding ever further away from the source of its splendor"), such poignant imagery. I think this thought underscores so well that they are each other's "anchor", and while alone the fears/doubts are heightened. However, when together they have a greater sense of security because they can lean on each other for strength.



Reading Mary's feedback I feel like I'm on the same wave-length as her. Willow is taking on a heavy burden with her need to protect Tara, keep her safe. Now it's quite understandable that Willow would act this way, especially since the thought of losing the most precious thing in her life is something she could never endure again. However, Willow seems to want to control all the variables, and with the outcome of Willow's wish to Anyanka (which Tara breaking the talisman fit so perfectly in what we know about her beliefs/her character), as well as all that she had to endure/"sacrifice" these past 19 years only to find out Tara was living in Sunnydale, shows that even with one's best intentions not everything goes according to plan.



Thus, what struck a chord with me was Willow's dilemma of her promise to give up dark magic, but wanting to make sure "Tara lived long enough to grow old with her and that wasn't a given on the Hellmouth". Both W&T have strengths, but I feel they are stronger together (ie combining Willow's raw power and Tara's "wisdom"/knowledge they balance, "complete" each other). With this in mind, nothing in life is guaranteed (there will always be risks), but Willow needs to trust (have faith) that as a "team" (ie not shutting out Tara) they can overcome their obstacles. I'm not saying Willow should go into a dangerous situation "blindly", but in order to truly be in the "light" she must live, and thus that means giving up some control.



Lastly, I'm looking forward to Willow's talk (or should I say confrontation) with Giles, especially in the light of her thinking, ("It would be good to have friends to talk to about what happened today."). Again Willow wanted to "control" the situation in regards to when Tara found out about her past, but now she is angry for the anguish they suffered due to the fact Giles got to Tara first. Really I think I'm more curious how their discussion ends, rather than starts. Or in other words, Willow's first instinct will be to lash out, but Giles has played an important role in her life in the past, and maybe Willow's desire to talk to someone, will "mute" some of the anger for them to come to some type of understanding. Can't wait for the next part!

Edited by: VampNo12  at: 1/2/03 12:52:33 am
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...

Postby Rane018 » Wed Jan 01, 2003 4:45 pm

lol, cause that whole portal thing never made any sense to me because it was her blood needed to open it and therefore close it but buffy landed beautifully unscratched when she fell. whatever...



DWM, again, another awesome update. leave it to tara to destroy the pendant (makes sense and true to her character). willow is so impulsive and does not realize that that would mean someone else would die and probably her.



cant wait for more.

"We're forgetting about the troll.
Let's pay attention to the troll." Tara, Triangle

Rane018
 


Re: Chapter 15a: Old Friends

Postby Big Dummy » Wed Jan 01, 2003 7:00 pm

Really enjoyed this last post. For the first time I actually felt some real compassion and hope for this new Willow. I don't quite get the ease with which Tara seems to have accepted her past and her actions, but the subtle things, like dressing differently and the insight we have into Willow's thoughts about wanting her life to be different now are reassuring. I suppose I'm simply looking for some sort of comeuppance for the the wrongs she did. Must be the moralist in me.



I do take heart also in the fact that her unavoidable meeting with Giles is approached after her musings about needing someone to talk to. It gives me hope that the confrontation won't simply be an angry, accusatory one on her part (or his, for that matter, cause he has a lot to be angry about too). I also can't foresee Willow hurting Giles, despite her anger, cause that would be something I don't think Tara could gloss over.



Can't wait for the next bit.

Big Dummy
 


RE: Parts 14 and 15

Postby hermitstull » Wed Jan 01, 2003 11:08 pm

Happy 2003 DMW-

Interesting stuff in both these parts. I wanted to read both before commenting. Both are great. I'm glad that Willow and Tara have found out who the other really is. Not that this Tara isn't her own person, but she does have some of the original Tara in her. And that she does feel a little confused, maybe even betrayed over what's going on. Wondering if her feelings are true or just shadows from the past.



And Willow. It's never the easy path for her. She understands the mistakes of the past. the mistakes she made with original Tara more than she did in the past. But with her immersion in dark magic makes her agreement to turn away both more poinent and difficult



And I love part 15. Almost anything with Anya I love. Wishes are always tricky so of course, Willow would die in Tara's place. And naturally she wouldn't stand for it, sacrificing herself for Willow and saving Anya in the process.



Will we get to find out what happened to the other Scoobies when Willow visits Giles? Some how I sense a little guilt in Willow about Buffy's death.



This is such a great story. I eagerly look forward to more-

hermitstull

____________________

"Stinky herbs are a go." Cordelia in Becoming pt. 2



"Oh, poor Watcher. Did your life pass before your eyes? Cuppa tea, cuppa tea, almost got shagged, cuppa tea?" Spike, Barganing pt. 1



Xander: "What's with the hand move? Does that like mean something?"

Willow: "It's code. I think it breaks down to 'choo-choo'." Fool for Love





hermitstull
 


Stupid Question

Postby unionjill30 » Thu Jan 02, 2003 12:10 am

Hey. I don't think I've ever commented, but I'm really liking the story so far. You're doing a great job with it.



The reason I'm posting is because I have the stupidest question in the world, but it just can't go unanswered. I was in my car today driving to my parents' house which happens to be a few hours drive, so obviously I had a lot of time to kill. My thoughts ranged from "This is a really kick ass CD" to "Is the conditioner I'm using right now really doing what I want it to do for my hair?" It was that conditioner thought that somehow led me to think about your story. Don't try to understand my train of thought. I stopped trying years ago. It's impossible to follow. Anyway, so Willow hasn't cut her hair in nineteen years or whatever, right? I remember reading that she had extremely long hair now or whatever. The thing that gets me is this: does she have mega split ends or what? I was thinking that maybe the magickal protections she did on herself not only could have helped her remain unharmed and everything, but they could have kept her hair looking good and semi-manageable. Obviously I have way too much time on my hands, but like I said, it was a question that couldn't remain in my head. I had to ask it. Feel free to laugh at any moment.



Sarah

So I'm turing off the TV and I smashed my radio cause I realize my heroes are the people I already know. And I'm burning up the papers and tearing up all the magazines cause they make me feel so lonely when there's no one there who represents me. ~H2O (Role Model)

Edited by: unionjill30 at: 1/1/03 10:11:57 pm
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Re: Stupid Question

Postby deixs » Thu Jan 02, 2003 2:31 am

DMW!



Great update!

So Anya granted a wish and Tara reversed it...:hmm

I hope Willow gets to meet Xander soon.



Stef :p

deixs
 


Wow....

Postby jessan15 » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:07 am

I'm sitting here in tears over the absolute amazing characterizations of Anya granting Willow a wish to reverse Tara's death. Everything about the situation was perfect....the way the wish turned against Willow...how Tara ended up smashing the talisman to save Willow.



Quote:
She said she would die for you.




Now, as incredibly morbid and disgusting as it may sound...this would have been a far more fitting ending to Amber time's on Buffy. Death in honor of true love instead of senseless violence. The ultimate sacrifice for love.



Wow...it was just perfect. Thank you so much. Now if you'll excuse me....I'm going to go read it again so I can cry myself to sleep.

jessan15
 


Re: Stupid Question

Postby Tulipp » Thu Jan 02, 2003 8:20 am

Well, dmw, I have fallen down on the job and actually missed responding to chapter 14, I believe. Luckily you already have lots of comments from me about it, but still....sigh.



But here I am, and you know? I think that Willow's anger with Giles is understandable; she has to have somewhere to put all this rage and loathing and loss, and it makes sense that it would have to land on the one person with whom she has that particular shared past.



But the wish--a late addition to the story--worked so well for me. I love Willow and Anya unable to reach one another through their mutual pain and loss, and I found Willow's reflection that she couldnt' deal with losing Tara again, even in a reality she couldn't remember, truly insightful.



This story just gets better and better--every draft, every chapter. Thanks so much for being so creative and careful with the characters.

"And I'm eating this banana. Lunchtime be damned!" -- Willow in "Doppelgangland

Tulipp
 


More Chapter 15a replies

Postby darkmagicwillow » Thu Jan 02, 2003 3:57 pm

The rest of chapter 15 will be up tomorrow with more old friends. I won't say who yet, but you'll find out soon enough.





VampNo12: Thanks, you've caught one of my favorite lines again.



You're right that living requires uncertainty and risk, and Willow needs to learn to accept that and trust in life and love, but she's had a lot of reasons not to in the past.



Both Willow and Giles are anticipating a confrontation, and you have a tendency to get what you expect from people, so perhaps you're right to be watching for the end or I could surprise you yet. (-; Your tying Willow's need for control to her anger with Giles is quite perceptive.



Rane: Thanks. Hmmm...I guess her death was magical since as you point out the fall didn't appear to hurt her a bit.



Big Dummy: It hasn't been easy for Tara and we haven't seen her thoughts after the big discussion yet so wait for that, and let me know what you think, ok? Willow's not all the way back to who she was either, and don't forget about Amy and the Master.



hermitstull: It's Anya fans like you who convinced me to buckle down and think about the wish idea to make it work with this story so I'm glad you liked it. We'll keep finding out about the Scoobies a little at a time.



unionjill: I'm still laughing after reading your comment. I hadn't thought about that; it's been years and years since I wore my hair long. I think if magical regeneration can heal bullet wounds, split ends shouldn't be an issue. Hope I haven't tempted any kittens into the dark magicks here. (-;



deixs: Thanks, the Scoobies fates will be revealed slowly.



jessan15: *hugs* and thanks. It doesn't sound morbid at all; in fact, one of the things I was trying to do here was to reach back and give that moment some meaning.



Tulipp: You've given me more feedback than I would have ever dared asked for and I've loved it all. There's no need to sorries or sighs. And for it getting better with every draft, you have to share some of that responsibility too. *G*

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

Edited by: darkmagicwillow at: 1/2/03 2:14:32 pm
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Re: Stupid Question

Postby SilverWingedNemesis » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:37 pm

oh my





The Scoobies Fates? hmmm :paranoid :hmm





*pulls out a chair and sits* come on friday..LOL *grins*



*hugs*



great update!





~NICK~

SilverWingedNemesis
 


Re: Stupid Question

Postby darkmagicwillow » Thu Jan 02, 2003 6:08 pm

Oh, Nickole, those were two separate teasings, the one about more old friends on Friday and revealingly the Scoobies fates slowly. You won't learn about everyone you haven't seen yet tomorrow. I have to keep some secrets to keep you reading, don't I?



Sorry, but I wouldn't want you staying up til dawn for nothing...

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

darkmagicwillow
 


Chapter 15b: Old Friends

Postby darkmagicwillow » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:58 am

Title: The Dark Rose - Chapter 15b (Old Friends)

Author: Dark Magic Willow

Email: darkmagickwillow@yahoo.com

Rating: R, mostly for violence, no explicit sex

Pairing: W/T

Spoilers: All episodes through the end of season 6 though this story takes place 18-19 years after the end of season 6.

Feedback: Yes! Constructive criticism is always welcome.

Summary: Old friends.

Magic Note: Magic, even dark magic, is not addictive in my universe, so there are no withdrawal symptoms and no dark magic dealers. Here Rack was a dark magic teacher who used his students, not a dealer. However, you can use too much magic and you can be corrupted by the power it gives you.

Disclaimer: I don't own any of the copyrights or anything else associated with BtVS. All rights lie with the production company, writers etc.

Acknowledgements: Thanks to my lovely beta readers for getting this chapter back to me over the holidays.





The Dark Rose

Chapter 15b: Old Friends






Standing in front of Giles's apartment door in the fading twilight, Willow raised a hand as if to cast a spell. She paused a moment to reconsider with her hand still in the air, shook her head, and knocked on it sharply three times instead.



After a few moments, Giles answered the door and looked at her without surprise. Then he stood back and beckoned her inside, "Come in, Willow."



Disarmed by his welcome, Willow entered the apartment's living room without saying a word. It was much like his old one, comfortable yet neatly organized with the exception of a few books on the coffee table. Bookcases full of familiar tomes lined the walls as always but there was a collection of music disks on one shelf which implied that Giles might be entering the 20th century a little too late.



He closed the door behind her. "Would you like some tea?" he asked. "The water's already hot." His eyes flicked away from her quickly, never quite meeting hers.



Turning back to face him, she examined his expression closely before nodding her assent. He looked old, his hair completely silver and his face lined from all the nights he'd spent worrying about the fate of the world. She wondered what he thought about the contrast with her own youthful appearance. As she thought about this, Giles hurried from the room to fetch the tea from the kitchen.



As she gazed around the room, she thought that this conversation wasn't starting at all as she expected. It felt like a dream where she was back in college visiting Giles for advice as she always did when something was wrong. Any minute now, Buffy and Xander would come through that door, talking and joking. Giles would come from the kitchen with tea and snacks, chiding them about their lack of seriousness, and soon they would all be buried in musty old tomes, figuring out how to defeat the latest evil to trouble Sunnydale.



Then Giles did return, breaking her fantasy. Buffy would never come through those doors again. She was dead. Xander was gone. Giles was no longer her friend and mentor. They would never get back together. He was a stranger to her now, someone who had betrayed her and hurt Tara.



He gestured for her to sit down on the couch as he carried a white ceramic pot of tea and two steaming cups on a tray into the room. Once she sat down, he placed one cup of tea on a saucer in front of her. Giles put the tray with the pot of tea on the other end of the coffee table, taking his own tea and sitting down in a chair facing her. Willow picked up her cup and took a sip of tea to gain some time.



They watched each other silently for several moments, both of them slowly sipping their tea. "It's been a long time," Giles finally said.



"I never wanted to come back here, Giles," Willow replied. She wasn't sure whether she was attempting to apologize for returning to Sunnydale or trying to explain why she hadn't returned earlier. Her jaw tightened as she decided she didn't care; he didn't deserve her apologies or explanations.



Her hand trembled, almost spilling her tea. She looked furiously at the betraying hand until it became steady again. She couldn't show any weakness in front of Giles.



"No, I don't imagine you did," Giles said thoughtfully without seeming to notice the tremor. "But when you learned about Tara, what else could you do?"



Her eyes narrowed as she looked at Giles. "How long have you known?" she asked.



"I only discovered the truth about Tara in the last week," he confessed. "I felt rather embarrassed when I finally figured it out. It was so obvious and she had been right there in front of my eyes for months." He shrugged. "But who expects this kind of thing to happen?"



His nonchalant attitude infuriated her. She'd had enough of pretending that this was a friendly social call. She slammed down her cup, spilling tea onto the coffee table and cracking the saucer underneath the cup. "Why?" she asked angrily. "Why did you do it? Do you hate me so much that you would hurt her to get to me?"



Giles stiffened at her accusation. He stared at her coldly for a moment before answering in a deliberately calm voice. "I don't hate you, Willow, but Tara needed to know the truth about her past and yours. She-"



Willow pulled off her sunglasses, revealing dark eyes that flashed angrily at Giles as she interrupted him, "You mean you told her your version of the truth. You left out so much, including the fact that I saved your life at the Watcher's Council."



He jumped up from his chair, his face flushed with anger. "How dare you try to claim credit for saving one life on a night where you killed scores of people?" he shouted. "You destroyed the culmination of centuries of work fighting the darkness and you sit there claiming that you did something good."



Willow stood up slowly, dark energies crackling between her fingers. "They were corrupt and dark as what they claimed to fight," she said coldly. "Anyway, it was them or me. I chose me."



A short barking laugh came from Giles. "And when it comes to a choice between you and Tara," he said. "Who will you choose then?"



The darkness in Willow's eyes grew as she stared at him, swallowing up the traces of white at the edges of her eyes. "I love her more than the world," she said in a still colder voice. Deliberately she advanced on Giles, one slow step at a time, the dark energies arcing up her forearms. "She's my everything," she said. "I'd die before hurting her."



Giles backed away from her until the backs of his legs hit the chair behind him. Then his eyes softened as he looked at her. "I know you love her Willow," he said sadly. "But are you the right person for her? You're not the young woman I knew so long ago. Even though you don't want to hurt her, what will become of her if you bring her into your darkness?" He held his breath as he watched for Willow's reaction.



Looking down and opening her hands, Willow grounded the energies with an explosive crackling sound. When she looked back at Giles, the darkness in her eyes had receded to its normal extent. "She's my only hope, Giles," she said in a lost voice. "I don't know what I'd do if I lost her again."



He extended a hand to console her, but she ducked away from his touch. Her gaze cold once again, she said in a toneless voice, "I can't leave her." She looked down for a long moment before adding in a more normal voice, "Magic couldn't bring her back, but fate has. This was meant to be, Giles. It will work out." Under her breath so that only she could hear, she added softly, "It has to." With those words, she picked up her sunglasses and left his apartment.



Giles stood silently as he watched her leave, his uncertainty about how he had handled this situation obvious in his eyes. After he watched her walk out of sight, he closed the door and went to the telephone.



He had some calls to make.





* * * * * *






Amy pushed her chair back and rubbed her eyes. They were dry and achy after hours of laborious translation. The rite was almost complete though. There were only a few more fragments to translate and piece together.



The spell would shake the foundations of Sunnydale as no previous apocalypse ever had. It would be more than enough to impress the Master. And it would push him another step closer to his doom. She was beginning to understand the dangers of the Heart. It would inevitably consume the Master, but by that time she should know how to shield herself from its corrupting influence.



She had always expected magic to change her life for the better, but it never had. It had always made her life worse, starting with her mother taking over her body. Once she freed herself from her mother's possession, she started using magic at school, but that had led to being blackmailed by Xander, then burned at the stake. She had escaped that fate by transforming herself into a rat. It had seemed like the only way out at the time.



The thought led her mind to Willow, the source of all her problems. Amy had always wanted Willow to be her friend, but Willow kept her as a rat in a cage while she missed high school then university, ignoring her in favor of her real friends.



It had take her some time to regain her memories from her time as a rodent, but Amy had seen everything from her little cage. They might not have paid much attention to her, but she had watched them. She had kept score.



Willow had risked her life time and time again for friends who ignored her in favor of their own issues. Finally, Willow focused on herself and woke up to the magic and what she could do with it, but instead of turning to Amy, Willow found a new friend to do spells with. Tara.



Tara had pretended to be sympathetic when Willow told her Amy's story, but Amy had seen the look in her eyes. She knew Tara was envious of her greater abilities, of the connection she and Willow could have shared. Tara was careful to always seem nice, but she had revealed her true colors when she got that cat to torment Amy. Even today she couldn't abide the creatures.



Finally, when Tara and the rest of Willow's friends deserted her, afraid of being overshadowed by her growing power, Willow had deigned to think about Amy the rat. Once she had bothered to think about it, it had only taken Willow a few minutes to break the spell. She could've done that at any time.



Amy had been willing to overlook that to be Willow's friend again. They had so much potential together. She had shown Willow the possibilities inherent in her magic, even introduced her to her teacher Rack. Everything had been going great, then Willow rejected her again for her little girlfriend Tara.



Amy had seen Willow taking care of Tara after she had lost her mind, feeding her and cleaning her, then spending all night searching for a spell to bring her back. Then Tara had abandoned Willow over one little spell. How could Willow have gone back to someone who rejected such devotion?



What kind of a witch was Tara anyway, making Willow promise not to do any more spells? Tara hadn't understood Willow like she had. She had seen the glow of accomplishment when Willow mastered a new spell. They could have shared that together, glorying in the magic instead of fearing it like Tara.



She had been glad when that little bitch had gotten shot, thinking that would make Willow return to her senses and realize that the magic was her destiny. She had been right about Willow returning to the magic, but as always, Willow made things worse for her, killing Rack on her rampage after Tara's death. Then she left town, leaving Amy alone, without anyone to teach her or share the magic.



She shook her head, trying to clear her head of thoughts of Willow. Willow was gone now, probably dead. She didn't matter any more. Her problems were of the past.



Her powers had grown slowly after Rack died. Learning from books was so slow. She didn't have the patience to teach herself the ancient languages and learn the spells on her own. She had learned how to steal the magic from others though, but borrowed power didn't last. It was an easier, faster path, but she had to keep finding new donors and stolen magic didn't flow naturally. It grated like something forced in where it didn't belong. She only had to look in the mirror to see the price she paid.



Her life was about to change though. She had discovered the secret of the Heart. It wasn't a tool of destruction, but one of creation, of restoration. With it, she would get back the life that Willow Rosenberg had stolen from her. She would be young again and powerful like her mother, like Willow. It would be her second chance.



This time she would do everything right.





* * * * * *






Tara jiggled the key in the lock impatiently before attempting to turn it again. This time she was rewarded by the clicking sound of the door unlocking. She groped in the darkness for the doorknob. Finding it, she quietly pushed the door open and slipped into the dark confines of Giles's office. She closed the door behind her.



Walking slowly towards where she remembered his desk to be, she banged her shin into something in the darkness. It crashed to the ground with a jarringly loud sound. She froze, afraid to even breathe. After long moments of undisturbed waiting, she finally let her breath out in a long sigh. Either the school wasn't well guarded at night or the crash hadn't been as loud as she thought it had been.



Turning on her flashlight, Tara discovered that she had simply knocked over Giles's chair. She pointed the light at his desk and began examining the papers and books scattered on it, looking for the one that had caught her eye this afternoon before his story had distracted her. Finding it, she opened the leather-bound tome and began flipping through the pages until she found the section on memory.



Reading quickly under the pale light of her flashlight, Tara soon found what she needed--a spell to see memories of a past life. After checking the list of ingredients, she was disappointed when she realized that she couldn't cast the spell tonight. There were several items that she'd have to purchase at the magic shop tomorrow. Closing the book, she tried to push down her disappointment.



She had to find something in her shared past with Willow that wasn't all blood and dark magic. Her throat tightened as she pressed her lips together. She just had to. The image of Willow dressed all in black, her face hidden, reaching up with clawed hands to bring down the towers of the Watcher's Council, each one full of screaming people, haunted her. She knew that the Watchers weren't all good people like Mr. Giles, but she saw that terrible image each time she closed her eyes.



She didn't know how to reconcile that haunting image with her deep attraction for Willow. Which was the real Willow? The smiling young woman she'd flirted with over coffee or the terrible dark witch who killed without a second thought?



She shook her head. That wasn't fair. Willow regretted what she had done at the Watcher's Council, but felt that she hadn't had any other choice. That was scary too. Willow's first instinct was to destroy utterly anything that threatened her. Even on the Hellmouth that wasn't always the best course of action.



Almost as disturbing as what Willow had talked about was what she hadn't mentioned. She talked freely about vampires, demons, and worse, but she hadn't told her about the times when it was just two of them together like in her dreams. Why hadn't she talked about those? Perhaps it was some misguided overcompensation for not telling her about the dark times before. But what if it was because she didn't remember or if there weren't that many? Maybe she'd already dreamed all the good parts.



She sniffled as a single tear fell on the open page of the book. There had to be more to their relationship than what she learned about today and she was going to find it. She closed the book before more tears could fall and stowed it safely in her backpack. She wiped away the remaining tears with the back of her hand.



Before slipping out of the office, she righted Giles's chair so he wouldn't know she had been here tonight. As she walked away, her footsteps echoed disturbingly behind her in the quiet dark corridors of the school. She kept looking over her shoulder for someone pursuing her. Each time she did, she told herself it was just the guilt she was feeling over the book. She promised herself that she would return it as soon as she cast the spell.



Finally she reached the exit. Pushing the door open she emerged into the coolness of the night. The starry sky was wonderfully open after the claustrophobic darkness of the school. She looked up at the familiar patterns of the stars in the night sky and was reassured by their seeming permanence. The darker the night, the brighter the stars seemed to shine.



With that hope in mind, she began her walk home by the pale light of the waxing moon.

--

"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

Edited by: darkmagicwillow at: 1/3/03 9:53:48 am
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Re: Chapter 15b: Old Friends

Postby yana » Fri Jan 03, 2003 10:14 am



Well, the meeting with Giles went much better than I thought. And why doesn't Tara just *ask* Willow about their past? I get the impression that she knows Willow wouldn't lie to her...



And I'm glad to see Amy's back. That's an interesting take she has on being a rat, and how it's all Willow's fault. She doesn't know Willow has returned? That should be a pleasant surprise. Except... Willow promised not to use dark magic! D'oh!



Really enjoying this story. Just keeps getting better and better. :)



Yana

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Re: Chapter 15b: Old Friends

Postby JustSkipIt » Fri Jan 03, 2003 10:20 am

DMW – A very good but somewhat disturbing post for me and my reading. First, Willow’s conversation with Giles. I was hoping for some sort of understanding between the two. Neither really went with that “seek first to understand, then to be understood” did they? Giles, always the watcher, eager to condemn her actions both past and potential future. But I can see where he is coming from. Willlow did things both for and to Tara in the past that shouldn’t be repeated. And now she has all this dark magic and dark energy, how much worse is her potential now? But Willow didn’t even attempt to see what he was trying to attempt, only to condemn him. She could have started by understanding that he wants to protect Tara. If they both come to the conversation with the understanding that they have that in common, they could maybe get somewhere.



Also, I was disapointed because I hoped for some news of Buffy, Xander, Anya, etc. and their fates. But I can understand that not fitting here. Good pacing.



Then Amy, deeply disturbing. Kafka basically said that if you hang a gun over the fireplace in the first act, you must at some point fire it and that if you at some point fire a gun, you must first hang it over the fireplace in the first act. It seems that you have hung the Amy gun as well as a lot of others and I’m kind of angsting the firing of each. Especially when/if Amy find out that Tara is “back”. Then we have Amy coming after her and power and what will Willow do to protect her and will she loose Tara because she protects her? All very troubling.



And now Tara’s investigations.



Quote:
There had to be more to their relationship than what she learned about today and she was going to find it.




It seems that she is unable to distinguish her selves from each other. The Tara of before from the Tara of now. Although it is important that she is Tara Maclay/Lucas, I’m not sure that it’s a good or healthy approach to try to rediscover a relationship that she has no memory of. I would say that if Tara Lucas feels attraction for Willow, even loves her, but also fears the darkness, then that is where she is. That is the basis on which she builds or doesn’t build the relationship.



Of course, if she does this, it will at least put her on the same footing with Willow who appears unable to distinguish between the two loves.



Ok, I just rambled a ton. I’m trying to avoid going and taking down the Christmas tree. I loved it and you’re brilliant. Debra :wave



Oh, and yeah for the fast update :bounce :clap

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"War may be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary it is always evil." - President Jimmy Carter after receiving the Nobel Peace Prize

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Re: Chapter 15b: Old Friends

Postby SilverWingedNemesis » Fri Jan 03, 2003 10:32 am

Yeah, I gotta go with YANA, why doesn't Tara ask Willow about the past "happier times" that she's wanting to know about...



Perhaps because Willow feels she doesn't deserve to remember them? or because she just wants Tara to love her, despite the darkness, and with no persuasion on how things were between them before... Hummmm :hmm



Great update.



Keep up the great work!



~NICK~



edited because I can't type! *giggles*

Edited by: SilverWingedNemesis at: 1/3/03 3:52:09 pm
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wow...

Postby funkyasian » Fri Jan 03, 2003 10:54 am

now i'm wishing the english dictionary had more words...all the ones i know seem so inadequate for this fic...great update as usual...



~steph

Nothing can cure the soul but the senses, just as nothing can cure the senses but the soul. ~ Oscar Wilde

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Re: Chapter 15b: Old Friends

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Fri Jan 03, 2003 1:37 pm

DMW--That was just a classic scene b/w Willow and Giles, and I suspect it wasn't the final one, either. I'm looking forward to more (if you choose to do so) b/c you write those high-tension meetings so incredibly well.



And as for Amy...I've been intrigued by all the various ways she's come up in Kitten fic. I wonder if she's a little like Faith in the sense that we've seen a lot of different sides of her in the show and thus she lends herself to being interpreted in lots of different ways. In this fic, I just wanna slap her silly. (That's just one of several interpretations, of course!)



I really ached for Tara in this update, b/c she's so clearly in love with Willow and hoping (needing) to find more connection w/ the original Tara and that relationship. What an incredibly painful spot to be in--knowing that the person you've fallen in love with fell in love with another you in literally another life, yet appears to be falling for you in this life as well.



Well done, DMW. Thanks for giving us such a great fic.



Mary

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Re: wow...

Postby tiredsoul » Fri Jan 03, 2003 4:32 pm

Quote:
"And when it comes to a choice between you and Tara," he said. "Who will you choose then?"


Very powerful question from Giles. While I would assume automatically that Willow would choose Tara over her own life, we still only have a glimpse of what the last eighteen years have done to her. From his point of view, he has every right to fear for Tara.



What’s Amy going to do when she finds out Willow is not only alive but in Sunnydale? Could be a pretty cool showdown. After all these years, she still hates Willow. It seems to be her driving force, much like Willow’s love for Tara being hers. Hate and love. Two very powerful emotions transcended over all this time.



Tara’s thoughts as she searched Giles’ office were so sad. Maybe she'd already dreamed all the good parts. I can see her need to find out more about her former self.

Quote:
Which was the real Willow? The smiling young woman she'd flirted with over coffee or the terrible dark witch who killed without a second thought?


And who is the real Tara? The memory or the one who now lives and breathes?



Great update. Looking forward to the next one.



--celia



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The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.

Edited by: tiredsoul at: 1/3/03 3:09:11 pm
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Re: Chapter 15b: Old Friends

Postby darkmagicwillow » Fri Jan 03, 2003 4:42 pm

edited to add: Sorry, Celia, you slipped in while I was writing. I got you this time.



yana: Amy has a different perspective than we do, but she had a rather different viewpoint over the years. Who wouldn't be bitter over being ignored for years when your problem could have been solved in a couple minutes?



JustSkipIt: I really like your Kafka quote. I have been hanging all sorts of things, guns like Amy amongst them, in the early chapters of this story. You've picked up on one of Willow's worst dilemmas: save Tara and lose her, or do nothing or not enough and lose her anyway. What can she do?



Then there's Tara's question of identity. Who is she? Willow never answered that question in all their discussion, and of course, ultimately only Tara can answer that.



Silver: Willow won't lie, but Tara knows that she leaves out things. Tara also wants a neutral point of view after hearing from both Giles and Willow.



funkyasian: Wordlessness is a wonderful compliment in itself. Thanks.



Antigone: Thanks so much. There will be more Giles for you in a little while.



I rather liked Amy over the years on Buffy though I wanted to slap her silly too for her actions in season 6. Here I've started from her fall into darkness there and continued it in what I hope is a believable manner. I might write her differently in another story.



How do you find time to write and write such insightful feedback?



tiredsoul: I like your question a lot:

And who is the real Tara? The memory or the one who now lives and breathes?


Tara's going to have to answer that, and so is Willow, before they can have a good relationship. And if they don't come to the same answer...

--

"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

Edited by: darkmagicwillow at: 1/3/03 3:33:18 pm
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Re: wow...

Postby Sister Bertrille » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:12 pm

Quote:
Which was the real Willow? The smiling young woman she’d flirted with over coffee or the terrible dark witch who killed without a second thought?



So much of the indoctrination we get in the socialization process implies that everything should be simple. We should just love each other; men should just take care of the children half the time; that would be simple. What is it that resists those simple solutions that we all say we want?

– Barbara Johnson
Call me a conflict whore : -->>: , but I enjoyed the tension you created in this update by having all the characters see their (unrealistic?) expectations dashed:
Quote:
Willow :…she thought that this conversation wasn’t starting at all as she expected.



Giles : But who expects this kind of thing to happen?



Amy : She had always expected magic to change her life for the better, but it never had.
No one appears willing (or able) to see in others the complexity and contradictions they accept in themselves. Willow cannot see Giles as both “friend and mentor” and “someone who had betrayed her and hurt Tara.” Giles cannot see Willow as both “the young woman [he] knew so long ago” and the killer of “scores of people.” Tara cannot see Willow as both “the smiling young woman she’d flirted with over coffee” and “the terrible dark witch who killed without a second thought.” Amy cannot see Willow as having two sources of strength, magic and Tara. Willow has trouble seeing Tara as both Taras at the same time; she seems to oscillate between them. And that is rubbing off on Tara, who has taken to stealing books!



Why can’t they all just love each other?!



SB

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