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Re: Part 18

Postby BFR from Paris » Wed Mar 12, 2003 3:34 am

Mary, tu peux me tutoyer, of course ;)



I loved the update, it's nice to see all the Scoobies giving Tara their support :)



Just one little thing : everytime I see the word "Tulsa", I think about Friends and Chandler saying "We're moving to Tulsa" and I :lol , which probably wasn't appropriate while reading this :glasses



I'm wondering what's coming next... Oh my God, i'm hooked! :p



Christine

BFR from Paris
 


Re: Final replies before posting

Postby tommo » Wed Mar 12, 2003 3:40 am

What a sad update. For some reason, the contrast of the horror of what Tara's found out, and the togetherness of the Scooby Gang in this chapter really touched me. I loved how you dealt with everyone's differing reactions, and yet kept them intensely close to a similar thought line, also weaving in the carefully described characterisations. Just wonderful writing.



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Had any of these alleged adults, years ago, thought of the price their children would have to pay for their own fears?




This, more than anything, struck a chord with me. Kind of relating to something going on in real life *shudder* and so very very true.



Thanks for this. :)



In you the song which rights my wrongs; In you the fullness of living;
The power to begin again; From right now, in you...

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Re: Part 18

Postby funkyasian » Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:05 am

so with one revelation, nathan just thundered down the truth to two people...on some levels i think i feel bad for beth also...the way she found out...sneaking around...maybe it's karma. and now that donnie's home...talk about showdown...can't wait for that...



~steph

Nothing can cure the soul but the senses, just as nothing can cure the senses but the soul. ~ Oscar Wilde

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Re: Part 18

Postby Grimaldi » Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:17 am

great update :)



the spark of jealously that Willow and Dawn showed when the waitress called Tara honey was funny. i'm curious as to what Beth is going to do now, since she knows that Tara is her sister. now that Donnie has returned, i hope that someone takes up Tara's suggestion and kicks him in the nuts real hard

You can't just go declaring shenanigans on innocent people, that's how wars get started!
I'm not stealing, I'm just taking things without paying for them. In what twisted dictionary is that stealing?
Did you just say the 'F' word?

Grimaldi
 


Re: Final replies before posting

Postby willntlover » Wed Mar 12, 2003 10:52 am

You are a very cruel kitten! Leaving us with Donnie showing back up!!! Crap! Please update!!!





-Will

"I think finding her soulmate would have made Tara a more confident and secure person" -Amber Benson

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Re: Part 18

Postby JustSkipIt » Wed Mar 12, 2003 11:07 am

Excellent Mary. This may be my favorite part. And now I'm wondering why. So I know you are sitting on the edge of your seat wondering, "why is this Debra's favorite part? or is it really her favorite part? Is it just that she hasn't reread the other parts lately and she thinks this is her favorite? What does it all mean?" Ok, maybe you're not wondering that. Maybe you're wondering, "why did it take Debra a full day to respond to this posting?" Ok, maybe you're wondering, "do I really really need to do laundry and get groceries tonight or could I just watch a video and go to bed early?" Who knows what goes through your genius mind. Now that was a truly Willow-worthy DebraBabble.



Ok, why do I love this part. Because people in it are thinking about what to do. What to say. And then saying their truth. Tara and Willow stop and say that they need to go out and Nathan actually asks if they will be back. All excellent at taking care of their selves. It would be so easy for them to leave and not care if he is scared or upset, but they don't. And the scoobies are of course ready to support however. At the diner they are all wonderfully honest and loving at an emotional level. And so clear that there is a "later" a later when Tara & Beth may be friends. A later when Tara will explain "honey" (had me laughing there). A later when they will all think and digest and still be together. I love it because they are all so open and honest with each other and themselves. Completely beautiful. Wonderful job Mary.



Debra

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"War may be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary it is always evil." - President Jimmy Carter after receiving the Nobel Peace Prize



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Responses to Part 18 Feedback

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:53 pm

Bonjour, mes chats! (BFR, let me know if I'm off w/ this!)



You know, I really didn't end this (or previous chapters) w/ cliffhangers to be cruel or manipulative. (I'll leave that to various television personages.) I just reach a point where I say, "I need to take a breath, hit the 'Pause' button, and check in on everybody, see how they're doing." Sorry for the delayed gratification!



Washi: See above re: cliffhanger...I'm glad you're enjoying this story. I hope you like where I go w/ it from here. Thanks!



Christine: I always enjoy writing Scooby scenes; I'm glad you like the end product. You know, I don't watch "Friends" very often, so I didn't get the Tulsa reference. Could you clue me in? And as for you being hooked--I promise I won't do anything whacked and derivative here to play with the "addiction," like make you go all dark magic and act completely contrary to your basic nature. Just thinkin' out loud here...Thanks for reading, Christine, and for the "tutoyer" permission!



Ruth: As always, I lit up when I saw your name on the thread. Your feedback is always illuminating. I'm glad the contrast worked for you. Part of my reasoning for having that was to give a break from the oppressiveness of the house and Nathan's words. I also needed (and perhaps I did this more for me than for the story) to incorporate at least a little humor, or lightness into the proceedings. Yes, the "alleged adults" factor acounts for a lot of the pain I see in my work. I hope the real life situation is resolved soon, and that you get some peace with the whole thing. Thanks for following this story, Ruth, and taking the time to send in your observations and support.



Steph: You know, I feel bad for Beth, too. Yes, she's sneaky, but I think that's b/c she never felt she had the power to act more openly. Stealth was the only weapon she felt she had. And karma? It might very well be...Thanks for reading!



Grimaldi: So you want Donnie's nuts to take a sudden and painful migration north, eh? I suspect that the line forms to the right on that one...It was fun to write the little jealousy bits w/ Willow and Dawn--it's an opportunity for a "breather" from the intensity w/o requiring an entire diversion of focus. Thanks for following this story, Grimaldi, and sending in your reactions.



Willntlover: What--me? Cruel? I'm really a very nice Kitten--just ask my ex! Oh wait--let me think of someone else...I hope you like where it goes from her, Will. Thanks for reading.



Debra: An impressive babble, indeed! Loved the stream o' consciousness, girl! I also very honestly loved the specificity and clarity of your feedback. Your observations helped hone my own thinking about time in this story--emotional time and real time. You're right: there is a "later" for many elements in this update--some are profound; some are droll. But yes--each person (even Nathan, in his way) thinks about what she/he needs and then asks for it. I sort of see Tara's contemplativeness as a more adaptive version of Nathan's reticence: both of them play their cards close to their vests, at least initially; but Tara has enough trust and hope and integrity that she does share herself w/ others, rather than keeping all of her feelings hidden and then springing them on people later. Thanks for the great feedback, Debra! Now I have to mosey on over to "Season 3, Y'All" and catch up on the updates!



Later, Kittens.

AntigoneUnbound
 


Re: Final replies before posting

Postby Grimlock72 » Wed Mar 12, 2003 2:06 pm

Poor Tara has a lot of changes to process, good thing that Dawn pointed out her not being all that much related to Donnie now :) It figures that Tara didn't tell all the evil Donnie did to all the other scoobies, kinda private stuff. Besides, if Donnie had been smart and stayed far away it wouldn't have been told at all.



However, now that all the scoobies (Vegance Demon, Slayer and a Witchy girlfriend) know... lets just say that Donnie has extremely bad timing in showing up right now. The other scoobies haven't really 'dealt' with them knowing Donnie hit Tara, so theirs no telling what they'll do. Anya might just walk up to him and knee him in the groin, Tara said she could do that after all :D .



I get where Willow is coming from in the way that she feels helpless to protect her girl from all this pain. She so desperately wants to do something, and she can once they're home. Tara needs to talk this over with someone she trusts... I think Willow easily qualifies for that.



Not sure who of the scoobies said so but I do agree that 'current' behaviour shouldn't be excused by long past events.



The one advantage of Donnie being back home is that Tara, Nathan and Donnie can now all three talk to each other. So there's no way Donnie is going to wiggle out of him stealing that box and such. I vote we leave Donnie in Nathan's care, heh... maybe help digging a small trench in the ground even...: -->>:



I don't know what to make of Beth, except that she's confused of course. She does have a tendency to blame Tara for most of the trouble she sees around her. That wont work this time because she knows the cause of this specific problem, her dad and Julia MaClay. Mr.Quinn doesn't strike me as a much better father for Tara though, being the drunk he is. Which makes me wonder why Julia liked him so much.... strange.



For Tara herself, staying much longer in that house doesn't accomplish much. She needs to go to her real 'home' in Sunnydale and rest. She'll be able to think all this through and in general 'deal' with it, much better than when she stays in her old home. Most of all she needs her rest, I think.



To bad she wont get much rest with Donnie being there. Though they could of course just say goodbye to Nathan and drive him, ignoring Donnie all together... :) Would be fun, but I doubt it will happen. Not in the least since some/most of the scoobies would like to have a little chat *cough* with him.



Hmm... interesting...



Did Julia have any other people she knew ? I.e. are there other people Tara can talk to about her and figure out what she really was like ?



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

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Re: Responses to Part 18 Feedback

Postby Nation » Wed Mar 12, 2003 2:30 pm

Great update as always. Looks like there's going to be some more tense moments ahead. Maybe Dawnie will become fiercely overprotective of Tara, jump on Donnie's back, put him in a choke hold, drop him to the ground, and kick him in the...(fill in the blank). :p That would be fun, wouldn't it?



I also enjoyed the "honey" references from the waitress. It's amusing that Willow and Dawn saw them as more than just a friendly greeting.



Geez, half-sister to Beth...I'd almost rather be a whole-sister to Donnie. Wait, no, actually neither option is appealing.



Can't wait to see where this goes....thanks for this story, it's wonderful!



Nation ps-Hey, I'm a Floating Rose now, YIPPEE!

Nation
 


Parts 16/17/18

Postby stereo33 » Wed Mar 12, 2003 3:40 pm

Mary

Sorry for the late reply. I've been swamped by college work and have just managed to fight my way out from under several very boring text books. :) The last 3 parts have been great with lots of twists and turns. Poor Tara, what a lot to take in, and then finding out her natural father is dead!

I'm really enjoying the way you're taking this, I loved the last update with everyone being so protective again, although I do think that Tara now needs some time alone with Willow to talk things through. I can't wait for the next update, (especially now Donnie's back, also where does this leave Beth?) Looking forward to more.

Thanks

Karen :)

stereo33
 


Re: Part 18

Postby VampNo12 » Wed Mar 12, 2003 5:30 pm

Mary, what a wonderful update! I think one of things that stood out to me was the gang trying to discern Nathan's motivations (ie could he be trusted in telling the truth, as well as what he hoped to gain?). Now we know what a huge burden Nathan was carrying by keeping this secret, and though I suspect he's relieved in many ways to get this off his chest, I don't think he would of revealed the truth on his own volition (ie it took being directly confronted by Tara with knowledge of the contents of the locked box to "spill").



Here one can see "shades of gray" (push/pull type feelings), where I believe Nathan wants to be rid of the "chains" of the past... reveal all (in a way "free" himself), while at the same time (knowing how much Tara respects... put's Julia on a "pedestal") wants Tara to truly "see" her mother (ie "taint" her in Tara's eyes). Really I wouldn't say he's sharing out of the "goodness of his heart" (ie there's still resentment of what Tara represents, and knows his reveal will cause pain... turn her "world upside down"). By the same token Nathan's "hopeful" question, ("So you'll come back?") signifies to me that on another level how much Nathan needs Tara in his life for the "goodness" she represents of Julia (ie in his mind Tara is his only "thread"... link to Julia, and doesn't want to sever it).



And what I found truly striking a chord with me (in regards to Nathan's "complex" nature) was Tara saying, ("The thing is by telling me what he did, he also knew that he would set me free."). Regardless, of any negative labels one could put on Nathan (ie selfish, cold, punitive, and etc), he in way "gifted" Tara with the one thing his love/pain couldn't give his own wife in the past... "the truth set's you free". Or in other words, his behavior towards Julia whether by mere avoidance or actively punishing her for her "sins", Nathan refused to let her go, but now he has given Tara the "gift" of knowledge (ie he's no longer using a lie... "demon heritage" to tie Tara to the farm). Now I may be giving Nathan too much credit, and I'm not saying he's completely given up trying to keep Tara at home (ie he might try another more subtle or overt approach in regards to this goal), but regardless of his intentions I sense with this needed "push" (confrontation with Tara), he's trying to learn from his past mistakes. Thus, his handling of Tara's questions demonstrates that he may indeed have finally bought a "clue"... prescribing to the theory of it's "better late than never"... with his revelations (as opposed to his past inaction... avoidance, or using manipulation... lies to get a desired result/way).



I must say again how much I love your characterization, it's so spot on. Tara has been "rocked" to her very core, but she's still standing due to her own inner-strength, as well the strength she derives from her "life-line"... Willow/gang. You capture so well Tara needing some time to process... reflect, where in this case "home" is literally a place (a stifling environment.... "with all of it's pictures lied".). By contrast Willow/gang symbolizes "home", it's not just barren walls that occupies space, but rather a feeling (connection) of love that they carry with them no matter where they go (ie they have found "home" in each other). And speaking of "home" I just loved Tara simply saying, ("As long as you're my future, I can handle anything about my past."), which conveys beautifully together they'll overcome any struggle... obstacle.



Lastly, I just enjoyed the scoobie interaction, which captured perfectly that Tara isn't alone... she has her "family" (ie Dawn embracing Tara, Anya being her direct self, but showing how much she cares in her own way saying, "And I've hardly thought about the money we're losing at the Magic Box", Buffy as the slayer wanting to "vanquish" Donnie, Giles showing concern... understanding in a "father-figure" way, Xander's "kinship of estrangement", and Willow being strong for Tara, while at the same time showing how much Tara's ordeal hurt's her... Willow's need to "protect" Tara from all this pain that she's experiencing). What also resonated with me was the parallel of being kept in the dark (Dawn was created by monks... she's the "key"), although in Dawn's case it's for protection... it's not being done with malicious intent, (ie Dawn saying how maybe going through this ordeal can bring Tara/Beth closer together... "friends", with relating how Buffy helped her through their parent's divorce). And I got a kick out Willow/Dawn's jealously (mistaking at first) the waitress's hospitality with her "making a move" on Tara (ie her calling her "Sweetie/Honey"). As for that cliffhanger of Donnie's arrival, I feel their about to face a moment of "truth", where all the "players" have gathered at the very spot where the "crimes" of the past have been perpetrated. Here I can envision one of two things happening: either Donnie, Nathan, and Beth can show growth by dealing with this tense situation in a positive light... try to make amends (learn from the insights gathered) by focusing on a brighter future, or instead continue down their destructive path where the moment is a "powder keg" ready to explode (ie they refuse to look inwards... change, and thus rather embrace the darkness... "demon"). Can't wait to see what happens next!



By the way I again I got a kick out your disclaimer :lol

Vicki

Edited by: VampNo12  at: 3/12/03 8:24:48 pm
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Re: Parts 16/17/18

Postby Washi » Wed Mar 12, 2003 6:00 pm

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You know, I really didn't end this (or previous chapters) w/ cliffhangers to be cruel or manipulative. (I'll leave that to various television personages.) I just reach a point where I say, "I need to take a breath, hit the 'Pause' button, and check in on everybody, see how they're doing." Sorry for the delayed gratification!




Mary, I myself was joking about the cliffhanger. I know sometimes, a person needs a break, and unconsciously stops on a cliffhanger-y situation to be able to explain the situation in detail later. I don't blame you. Actually, I love it, it helps my mind speculate. Or dream about Willow and Xander kicking Donnie's ass.:grin



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Washi: See above re: cliffhanger...I'm glad you're enjoying this story. I hope you like where I go w/ it from here. Thanks!




I know I'm gonna love it. And you're more than welcome. :D



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Bonjour, mes chats!




Actually, I'm hoping it's ok if I correct this one. This one means "Hello my cats" whereas I think you're looking for kittens. "Hello my Kittens" is "Bonjour mes Chatons". I've been seeing french words here and there, but I guess I was too shy to say anything. My own rule: lurk, and if you like the people, post.:grin



I'll stop rambling now, and I'll sit quiet, silently waiting for the next update. :grin

Washi
 


Re: Part 18

Postby The Rose24 » Wed Mar 12, 2003 10:29 pm

I am glad the gang is still supporting Tara. I know she will get through this and start to heal.



Why does Donnie has to show up at this time? :spin

Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.


Tara: Willow, I got so lost.

Willow: I found you. I will always find you.


The Rose24
 


Re: Final replies before posting

Postby daydreamer » Wed Mar 12, 2003 11:19 pm

Delurked just to say I loved the update. :applause :applause :applause I'm not really great with feedback but your fic is one of the few I check out for updates daily. I can't wait to see what will happen now that Donnie's back. Cliffhanger!!! :shock :shock :shock

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Re: Part 18

Postby Penrose Orleans » Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:34 am

Mary--

I feel WHORE-able (hehehe... finals... unable to function as normal human being... failure at humor. :paranoid ) about not posting feedback for the last couple of parts... I have, as I said, buckets of paper-writing to do (more than 30 pages in total, and 6 in Spanish!), so I don't have much free time till next week. I want to say, though, that even if I don't write a novel about it this time, your work is fabulous as always and that you always bring a smile (in the gloriously realist sort of way) to my face-- I'm glad that the fault is being distributed, and that no one gets away with their hands clean! You provoke much thought, but in a good kind of not-at-all-relating-to-Hobbes kind of way! With many bitchy salutations-- Nora

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Te tiendo la mano, tú agarra todo el brazo. Y si quieres más, pues ¡Grita!" -Jarabe de Palo, "Grita"

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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby elessar007 » Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:51 am

Thanks for another great update. The 'honey' scene with the waitress was so funny with Willow and Dawn geting all jealuous.



Don't worry about any cliffhanger complaints. For me, at least. it helps maintain a sense of flow. I don't feel like I'm starting a new story every time there is an update.



Some other Kittens mentioned Donnie getting a nut stomping and ass whooping. I just want to say that those suggestions of visiting violence upon Donnie have a lot going for them. :smash I think a proper thrashing could be very therapeutic. At least it would be therapeutic for me. Although he has been a catalyst for what appears to be some long due truth telling, he still needs to get a serious ass whooping. I digress.

**wipes beads of sweat from a session of mentally beating Donnie into indescribable bits, then straightens tie**

Thanks for letting me vent. I now resume looking forward to your next update with baited breath.



Scott





P.S. Very funny with the disclaimer. Is that a segue for a new fic you have in mind?:hmm



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Re: Part 18

Postby Patches » Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:06 am

Mary, Queen of S holy speed writing!



A long time ago, a friend said during a particularly turbulent period of my life, “you choose your friends, you don’t choose your family.” Those words were somewhat of a saving grace for me. So when you wrote, ”The only constant was the invisible cord that held her close to Willow, anchoring her to a family that didn’t build hollow existences on the ruins of lies,” it really struck a chord with me (pardon the pun). How lucky Tara is to have her friends with her, and to have Willow standing by her. Somehow it’s easier to face the pain in the company of people who love you than it is to sit alone and stare at the cold walls of a dark room.



Tara certainly has a lot to deal with, and the timing of the restaurant break was great. It gives Tara a few moments away to try to sort out some of the things her ‘father’ told her. I don’t know what I’d do if I was handed that kind of information. Well, if it was my mother, I’d have danced a jig and praised the PTB. (I made some sort of peace with her before she died, but that doesn’t temper the fact that my friends have standing orders to shoot me if I ever start acting like her. That whole daughters turn into their mothers axiom scares me, a lot - lol) But seriously, talk about having your life turned inside out and upside down. Both Tara and Beth have a lot to deal with. I question now, who’s Tara father: Quinn, the sperm donor or Nathan the nurturer (if that’s what you can call him). What makes a parent, a parent?



The restaurant scene was great, very emotional, and yet very believable. The Scoobies aren’t ones for platitudes and I’m grateful for that. It’s refreshing to read an honest take on a difficult situation. Given the glimpses on the show of Xander’s family, he really understands dysfunctional. Tara really is a kind soul and I like her unique understanding of Anya, and the little things she does and says to welcome Anya into the fold of humanity. She treats Dawn the same way also. There’s a wonderful irony in all this. And then there’s Willow. What a great source of strength.



I also liked the whole uncertainty of Nathan’s ‘truth.’ He does have a history of lying, doesn’t he? Guess there’s not really any way to know if he’s telling the truth or not.



God, I despise Nathan. At the risk of getting myself into a little trouble here, I’m going to argue against the concept that Nathan is a complex character. As I said previously, in a more tongue-in-cheek way, he’s a simple man (though the reference to ‘simple farmer’ was intended metaphorically, not as a broad stroke classification of farmers in general – who are anything but simple in the insulting sense I intended - referring only to Nathan being simple, while coincidentally being a farmer and poor; just so we’re clear on this). Not even his simpering, oops sorry, almost ‘hopeful,’ [i]”So you’ll come back”
question can temper my deep felt loathing for him.



Nathan’s an abuser. He told is wife she was a demon. He used that lie to control her, to end an affair he didn’t want her to have, and to keep her tied to him (by his own admission) against her will – if she knew the truth, Nathan believed she’d have left him. The demon thing was all for the ‘greater good,’ ostensibly so he could ‘protect’ Donnie (by beating him into submission). He tried to pull the same thing with his daughter (which is doubly deplorable because she wasn’t even “his” kid), and he beat his son – for his own good. Oh come, on! This behaviour ranks right up there with, ‘gee honey, you know I love you and I only beat you because you make me angry’ and ‘I know I’m hurting you, but it’s for your own good.’ He imprisoned his family in a web of deceit because he’s a selfish bastard. I wonder how much of his tragedy is fate and how much is his own doing. Three guesses where my vote goes, and the first two don’t count.



Mary, you weave so many layers of emotion into your work. I can’t wait to read more. I’m very curious to find out how much of the day’s events Donnie has had time to learn. This is going to be interesting. I suppose Nathan could always redeem himself by dying heroically fighting his demon possessed son to save his daughter – that’s about the only thing that might rekindle his now extinguished spark of humanity in my mind.



As always, your Scoobie interactions are great. Though, I must ask, wouldn’t they need the Jaws of Life to get all seven of them out of Buffy’s five seater Jeep. :lol



Thank for the story Mary – can’t wait for the showdown at the Maclay, as opposed to OK, Coral.



Cheers!!

Patches





You know I've heard about people like me. But I never made the connection. They walk one road to set them free, And find they've gone the wrong direction. But there's no need for turning back 'cause all roads lead to where I stand. And I believe I'll walk them all No matter what I may have planned

Edited by: Patches at: 3/13/03 11:49:47 am
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Re: Gods Served and Abandoned

Postby Mix » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:14 am

Mary, what can I say that hasn't been said?



Absolutly nothing, so I'm going to say I love this. I'm totally hooked, You keep throwing surprises at me and I love it.



Thank you so much for writing



Mix

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Proud member of the Nancy Tribe!

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Re: Part 18

Postby jixer » Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:18 pm

Hello Kittens-



Donnie's home and Nathan knows what he did. I can't say I'd be surprised at the possible outcomes. Both have debts to pay, Donnie's as interest on Nathan's principle. Tara has the Scoobies at her back and Willow at her side but Beth is alone in there with them. I find myself wondering about her, which I credit to your wonderful words.



May we have some more?



Jixer





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Re: Responses to Part 18 Feedback

Postby BFR from Paris » Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:46 pm

Bonsoir, Mary! :wave

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Bonjour, mes chats! (BFR, let me know if I'm off w/ this!)
Washi already answered that one for me, and I have nothing to add ;)



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You know, I don't watch "Friends" very often, so I didn't get the Tulsa reference. Could you clue me in?


Well, it's from early season 9, Chandler and Monica are married, and Chandler is being relocated to Tulsa (he falls asleep during a work meeting and agrees to run an office in Tulsa), then he comes home and gives Monica a whole speech that ends up with "we're moving to Tulsa", which leaves Monica quite distressed :lol



Anyway, since I'm a Friends-addict, I couldn't miss it, but it's probably just me :grin



A plus tard, ma chatounette ;)



Christine

BFR from Paris
 


Re: Part 18

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Thu Mar 13, 2003 3:32 pm

Hello all. The Muse of Lesbian Fiction (Clittoria) has visited me with some urgency, so I’ll be posting Part 19 right after these replies.



As ever, I thank you for your kind, supportive, and insightful feedback.



OK, now BFR from Paris and Washi…Is it "chatons" ou "chatounettes"? Are we looking at a feminine/masculine difference here? I’m guessing oui. I figured there had to be some word for "Kittens," but I had no idea what it was. That’s what I love about this board: the learning never ends! Thanks, you two!



Grimmy:
Oh yeah—Tara has definitely had her fill o’ trauma for the day, hasn’t she? And Willow—wanting so bad to protect her girl, any way she can. You’re right about the "gathering" element: I wanted to get them all together so that there’s at least a small amount of honesty floating around between the three. You’re right, too, about Beth—I really do feel for her in certain ways, by virtue of her lost and searching quality. She so desperately wants a home. Good question about Julia’s friends, too—that would make for some helpful clarification, wouldn’t it? Thanks for following this story, Grimmy, and sending in such consistently thorough feedback.



Nation: Hey, congrats on the upward kitten mobility! I remember approaching the "Floating Rose" level and being very psyched about it. Loved your image of Dawnie going large with the butch on big brother—that may require a stand-alone short fic all by itself! It was fun to write the "honey" interactions, just b/c it gave me a breather as well. Thanks for reading, Nation, and sending in the good thoughts.



Karen: Hey, no sweat on the late reply. I get the impression a lot of folks are in the middle of hellish academic loads right now. You know, I have more notes on this story than probably any other fiction piece I’ve written about anything—just to keep all the twists and turns straight in my own head! Glad you’re enjoying the story and don’t worry—W/T time is a-comin’ up soon! Thanks for writing.



Vicki: Hey girl—how goes the tort sortin’? As always, your feedback is just amazing. Yes, Nathan’s motivations are elusive, aren’t they? I’m not even sure what they are, which I probably shouldn’t admit so openly…I’ll be curious to see what you think of Nathan’s exposition in this update—how it matches your own thinking, etc. He doesn’t enjoy feeling guilty and he doesn’t enjoy inflicting pain (I believe this last part utterly) but his fear is such a guiding force that it eclipses everything else. Has he "bought a clue" with Tara? Will we find out? Will the author of the story stop asking questions as if she’s trying to get her readers to do all her thinking for her?



You know, the favorite part of writing for me is the characterizations. I love "feeling" someone as I’m writing them. (This, of course, is different from being "felt up" as I write, which is also very enjoyable, but rarely as productive.) So I’m immensely relieved that you can see and hear these folks as you read them. You know, I’ve been struck throughout this piece by large pieces of driftwood. And then I stopped writing in the middle of the ocean, and now I’m struck by the parallels b/w Dawn and Tara. Both of them (although Dawn doesn’t realize it yet) have gathered a different type of family around them. It’s just another reason that I think Tara makes such a fantastic ally for Dawn. And the little sparks of jealousy, a brief moment when Willow and Dawn band together to ward off the perceived poacher—that was just fun to imagine.



Thanks again, Vicki. Your ideas are just wonderful to peruse. I don’t know if you’re in the middle of any law school hell right now, but if so—hang in there!



Washi: Thanks for the clarification (though I still have some learning to do, as the question at the top suggests). And thanks for coming out of lurker mode for both the story and the vocabulary! Hope you enjoy where it goes from here.



Rose: Oh, but Donnie has to appear now, for the big show-down scene! Thanks for keeping up with this!



Daydreamer: Thanks for delurking, DD! Nice to meet you! I try to keep the updates at about two a week…It’s nice to know you look for them. Thanks for writing.



Nora: Oh good heavens, Bitch, are you really trying to tell me that school is more important than reading W/T goodness? Than moi? I’m hurt beyond words; in fact, I need to stop typing for just a moment while I find the words I need.



OK, I’m back. I’m just really darn hurt, Nora.



There—it’s good to be in touch w/ one’s feelings…And "whore-able"? OK, call me a total geek, but I loved it.



Seriously, Nora—I appreciate you keeping up with the story and taking the time to write in at all. Ne sweat pas (that’s French, of course) the brevity of your comments. I’m glad you like where this is going and how folks are being rendered. Good luck w/ the buckets o’ papers. Sounds like an overwhelming amount of work. Be good to yourself, or as good as you can be under such grueling circumstances. Oh—could you translate your signature for me? Maybe I can pick up some Spanish, too!



Elessar: You know, I think a lot of people are hoping for a vicarious catharsis by virtue of having Donnie get well and truly fucked up. I’ll be curious to see what you all think of this update in that regard. Thanks for the good thoughts about the restaurant scene—it was fun to write. And kudos for straightening the tie after the mental exertion. So few people remember these sartorial touches, and it just shows, you know? Thanks for reading, Elessar, and taking the time to write.



Patches: Ah, good Patches…How great to see your name here again! You know, you picked up on a major reason I sent them to the restaurant: I thought they (and the story) needed a break of sorts, a respite and refocusing of energies and themes. No, the Scoobs don’t do platitudes, do they? They’re definitely of the "action talks, bullshit walks" ilk. And hey—if you’re hating Nathan, girl, go with it! Lots of people are having a whole range of reactions to the man, and you’re by no means alone in your antipathy. Yes—he is an abuser. In keeping with the "nothing’s black and white" motif that seems to drives my life, he isn’t spared grief and loss in his own life—but does that justify his reactions to those traumas? Tara hasn’t turned to control and deceit in the face of her many losses and injuries, w/ the exception of the "Blind Cadria" spell, which was brief and certainly illustrative to her as to just a few of the many reasons NOT to go that route.



Thanks for the compliment about layers and nuances. It’s definitely something I try to keep in mind when writing strong emotional scenes, b/c those can so easily become caricatured. Oh—you totally nailed me on the SUV/Jaws of Life point! I was thinking about it as I wrote it, knowing that even in a bigger vehicle, they’re going to be crowded! But I just had to keep them in one car. Maybe Willow sat on Tara’s lap…and then Dawn tried to sit on Tara’s!



By the way—sounds tough, about your mom. Glad you made some kind of peace w/ her, but God, parents can screw with us in so many ways, can’t they? Immeasurable good; immeasurable harm…



You rock, Patches!



Mix: Thanks for the kind words, Mix. Glad the surprises are enjoyable and not disorienting! Hope you like where it goes from here.



Jixer: Yes, the debts are accruing, aren’t they? I love that analogy. Beth captures my imagination, too; it’s nice to hear that you also find her intriguing. Thanks for reading, Jixer, and taking the time to write.



Christine: Thanks for the "Friends" clarification. Whenever I see it, I love it; I just often work early Thursday evenings. And thanks, as ever, for the French lesson!



OK, folks—update to follow!



AntigoneUnbound
 


Re: Part 18

Postby BFR from Paris » Thu Mar 13, 2003 4:00 pm

Quote:
OK, now BFR from Paris and Washi…Is it "chatons" ou "chatounettes"? Are we looking at a feminine/masculine difference here? I’m guessing oui. I figured there had to be some word for "Kittens," but I had no idea what it was. That’s what I love about this board: the learning never ends! Thanks, you two!


heh heh :p



Time for another French lesson ;)



"chaton" is the general term for "kitten"

"chat" means "cat" and more specifically "he-cat"

"chatte" means "she-cat" (and also "pussy", therefore it's now rarely used as "she-cat" LOL)

"chatounette" is an endearing pet name for a she-cat (kinda like "kitty") and also for a woman



Et voilà!



Christine :)

BFR from Paris
 


Part 19

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Thu Mar 13, 2003 4:02 pm

Gods Served and Abandoned

Disclaimers:
If I owned these lovely and amazing creatures, you can bet we’d all be a hell of a lot happier than we are right now.

Spoilers:
Up to season 5. I’ve played slightly with the timing of a certain Big Bad’s appearance, with some implications for Dawn’s entrance.

Rating:
R for now; if it changes, I’ll give heads-up.

Distribution:
Sure, with acknowledgement.

Feedback:
Even more sure! Bring it on!


*****
Part 19
*****


One small part of Tara’s mind took in the sight of the camper and wanted to laugh: Of course he’s here…We’re gathering at the mansion for the big denouement scene.

Another, much larger part wanted to shut down, drive away, do anything to avoid what could only lead to chaos and anger.

Pulling rather abruptly to a halt, Buffy turned to look at Tara. "Do you want to just leave now? I can throw this thing in reverse and we can be back on the main road in less than ten minutes."

"Or you could just run over him," Dawn suggested hopefully.

Tara gave serious thought to Buffy’s suggestion, and let herself reflect briefly on Dawn’s. No…Let’s get this over with. If all the players are on the stage, let’s finish this scene. She looked at Willow, who reached out to brush her hair back from her face.

"I think I should do this, Will. It’s time."

Willow gave her a gentle smile. "It’s your call, Baby. I’m right here with you…We all are."

Tara leaned over for a much-needed kiss, and then nodded to her beloved, who popped open the door. As they all tumbled out of the SUV, Donnie emerged from the house, followed closely by his father. He looked at Tara, and then at Nathan, and finally back at Tara again. Even from several yards away, Tara could see his jaw clenching; and then she saw his fists do likewise. After a moment, he started toward her.

I don’t have to be afraid. I can stand tall, and I have people who love me here beside me. I don’t have to run from him anymore.

As he neared her, she pulled herself to her full height and felt an unexpected but profound calm settle over her. She was powerful. She was strong. She loved, and was loved.

What is there to fear? I know what I need to say to him.

And she would have said it, too, except that he was no longer in front of her. He was, in fact, now flying several yards away, his face contorted with rage and budding fear. Turning, Tara saw Willow, one hand extended and trembling. Her breathing seemed almost ragged.

"Never. Again. You will never touch her again." The words were expelled with a venom that Tara hadn’t imagined her sweet Willow possessed.

She reached out and put her hand on Willow’s raised arm. The flesh pulsed with heat and power, and Willow’s eyes shimmered with fury. Looking into those eyes, Tara felt her throat tighten. "Willow, Sweetie—it’s OK. Thank you, for protecting me. But…" She stumbled, trying to find words. "But with you here, for the first time I feel like I can protect myself."

Willow hesitated, and then nodded reluctantly. She lowered her hand, extending it to clasp Tara’s. "I just—Baby, it’s so hard not to hurt him." Her eyes had become gentler, it seemed, and now brimmed with tears.

"I know…I’d feel the same way if someone wanted to hurt you." She squeezed Willow’s hand, feeling her mate’s energy return to normal.

Behind them, Donnie rose unsteadily to his feet. "Fucking dyke witch!" he swore hoarsely. As if unable to believe he might be subdued a second time, he took a threatening step toward her.

"Oh no, Dickless Wonder—I’m next," Buffy interjected darkly, edging in front of Willow. "I’m not a dyke. I’m not a witch. I’m not even fucking at this particular moment. I’m just a little slip of a girl—who will rip your arms out of their sockets and beat you with them if you so much as think about it."

Donnie stared at her in disbelief. "What is this? Why are you even here?" he demanded, gesturing to the entire group.

Meanwhile, Dawn had managed to sidle up next to Buffy and was now trying to wrest free of her sister’s restraining grip. "C’mon—I wanna piece of that beer-bellied slime-ball!" she hissed menacingly. Tara stared at the slight teenager with a mixture of shock and love.

"I mean it," Dawn was saying. "I may not be a witch and I may not be fucking either, but I can take your scruffy ass." Buffy looked at her sharply, whether because of her language or because of her conspicuous absence of clarification regarding her own sexual orientation, Tara wasn’t sure.

"Dawn, you can’t go after him," Buffy whispered tersely.

"Why not?" came the defiant reply.

"Because," Xander piped up, stepping forward himself, "if we’re gonna go Mike Tyson on this Aryan Nation reject, we’re doing it in order of age, which means you go last."

And Tara, who was peaceful and loving and gentle and gracious, felt her heart grow warm and happy at the sight of so many people lining up to beat her brother into a soggy mass of quivering flesh.

Donnie seemed unable to comprehend the scene before him…all these people so willing—so eager, it would appear—to pound him into the ground. He looked from one ominous face to another, his stupefaction rendering him uncharacteristically mute—for a moment.

"What the hell are you all thinking? Do you have any idea what a freak she is? This is—" He stopped, fumbling in his agitation. "She’s a fucking weirdo lezzie who’s only here in the first place because our mom was whoring around with her brother-in-law."

He knows. He knows everything, she thought, even as she gripped Willow’s hand tightly and whispered, "As you have done, receive." She watched as Donnie sank to his knees, clutching his chest in agony. He looked up at her, his face filled with anguish and confusion.

"Does it hurt, Donnie?" she asked shakily. "Does your heart feel like it’s going to rip out of your chest?" She held his gaze for a moment more, before muttering, "Release." At the word, Donnie slumped forward, ashen and struggling for breath.

Donnie stared at her, tears spilling over his cheeks and splashing onto the cracked gray sidewalk. He shook his head dumbly, and when he finally spoke, his voice was broken and raw.

"She took me with her, Tara. She threw me in a car seat and dragged me to some abandoned house so she could screw Dad’s brother." He rose slowly to his feet, anger spilling back into his eyes. "It’s not fair, damn it! It’s not fair…" His voice choked on his grief and rage.

~~~

Upstairs, forgotten by her uncle and pondering the death of her father, she heard the crunch of tires on the gravel and at first assumed that Tara and her friends had returned. The familiar spluttering cough of the engine as it cut off, however, told her that Donnie was back.

Donnie…None of this would have happened if she hadn’t agreed to help Donnie. Did she wish she could go back and do it differently? Go back to when she thought her father was at least still alive somewhere and that none of his affairs had involved Tara’s mother? When she didn’t know that Tara was her sister?

She heard Donnie’s harsh voice carrying over the yard and into the house, and decided not to go downstairs just yet.

~~~

"No, it’s not fair," Tara replied, her voice breaking. "It was wrong and she was wrong and I’m sorry, Donnie, I’m so sorry that you went through that. And I’m sorry that you were beaten because of his twisted reasoning and I’m sorry that when you were upset they didn’t hold you and try to figure out what you needed. I’m sorry, Donnie, I am, but it wasn’t my fault! I didn’t do any of it! I was the one person who couldn’t hurt you, and you decided to hurt
me. And that was wrong too, Donnie." She was sobbing now, Donnie a dim blur through her tears.

"Fuck her," Donnie’s voice sounded raspily in her ears. "Fuck that lying, cheating slut—"

"Donald, stop it!" Nathan’s voice called out sharply. "Don’t…don’t talk about her that way." He walked toward them slowly, and some distant part of Tara’s mind realized that he was getting older.

Donnie wheeled about, gaping with disbelief. "What the…Daddy, are you defending her? After everything you just told me? After everything she did to you? Did to me?"

"She’s still your mother, Donald. And she was my wife." Exhaustion radiated from Nathan’s eyes.

"A wife who cheated on you, Daddy! How can you stand up for her?" Donnie’s face was pale and drawn as he looked at his father in shock.

"Because I love her. I always did; I always will." The tone of his voice suggested that this answer sufficed entirely.

Donnie stared at him a moment longer, and then laughed weakly, the sound tinged with despair. "And her?" he asked, gesturing to Tara. "Do you love her, too?"

Tara realized with a swift shock that she desperately wanted to know the answer.

It shouldn’t matter. You don’t belong here. He’s not even your father…

Of course it matters. He’s the only father you’ve known; the only father you’ll ever know.

She found herself looking reluctantly at Nathan, dreading his answer. He gazed at her for several moments, his eyes filled with messages Tara couldn’t decipher.

Finally, he replied quietly, "Every time I look at you, Tara, I see your father."

Oh goddess…

"And then I look at you again and I see your mother."

His face was suddenly filled with a grief that left Tara almost breathless. "You’re so much like her, Tara—the way you look, the way you think…the way you tilt your head when you’re lost in thought…You have her smile, and her gentleness."

Tara could barely see him through her tears.

"It breaks my heart to have you here, and it breaks my heart to watch you leave." He fell silent, his head dropping slightly.

Beside her, Tara could hear Willow’s own muted crying. The hand in hers squeezed tightly, as if trying to convey immeasurable love and strength through the rhythmic flexing of her fingers.

"But you have her restlessness, too, at least where home is concerned," Nathan continued after a moment. "I couldn’t keep her, and I knew when you were just a little girl that I wouldn’t be able to keep you either. I knew you’d get away, just like she did."

Tara found her voice, and prayed for steadiness. "But you talk about her as if she were some kind of animal that you wanted to keep penned up. I—I don’t think it works like that."

Nathan looked at her with a kind of puzzled resignation. "But she would have left, Tara. She would have taken all that light and spirit and gone away. I wasn’t enough to keep her here. And I couldn’t lose her," he trailed off helplessly.

"But you did," Tara replied simply. "You lost her heart, and her spirit and her light and everything that you loved about her because you tried so hard to make her believe she was evil." Her voice shook as she thought about her mother dying with that belief. "She deserved better. And Donnie deserved better than being beaten because you wanted to keep him in line, too."

Turning to her half-brother, she added, "I can’t believe I’m sticking up for you, Donnie, but if he hadn’t beaten you, I don’t think you would have beaten me."

"You don’t know that," Nathan said quickly. "He does have demon in him—just like me."

"He was also brutalized by the man who should have protected him," Tara snapped back. "You don’t know if he’s so mean and angry because of the demon or because of what you did."

Halting abruptly with the force of her sudden uncertainty, she stared at Nathan. "Are you even sure you’re a demon?"

Nathan seemed taken aback by the question. "What do you mean, am I sure? I was telling you the truth about my mother and what happened."

"You told me what your mother told you. But did you ever see anything? Did you ever witness your father being evil or destructive or cruel?"

Nathan’s eyes grew cloudy as he struggled to remember. "No—but then, who’s to say he didn’t deceive me in some way, or take away my memory of it?"

"And who’s to say he did?" Tara replied.

Nathan shook his head as if trying to force his thoughts into something cohesive and trustworthy. "But why would my mother lie?" he finally asked.

"Who knows?" Tara shrugged helplessly. "And I’m not saying she did. But look around you—has anything good at all come out of believing it without question? You didn’t trust yourself, you didn’t trust your son…"

"I trusted my wife," Nathan said simply. "And she betrayed that trust."

"Yes, she did," Tara replied, feeling her heart ache with the concession. "And she’s the one person you knew wasn’t a demon. So tell me how it all adds up to make any sense?"

In the silence that followed, Tara could hear Donnie’s ragged breath. Turning, she saw that he was struggling to keep from crying.Biting his lip so hard that she thought he might draw blood, he said quietly, "You shouldn’t have hit me, Daddy. You never had the right to hit me."

Nathan looked at him, his expression a mixture of remorse and obstinance. "I thought I was doing what was best, Donnie. I—I didn’t know."

Donnie continued speaking as if he hadn’t heard his father’s voice. "It wouldn’t have been that hard, Daddy, just to talk to me like I wasn’t some dog." He seemed to be looking at something beyond his father.

~~~

When she heard the rumble of a second vehicle, she knew that Tara was back. Standing, she moved slowly about the room and peered at the various pictures and certificates and awards yet again. She knew them all, could practically recite the various inscriptions from memory.

She looked closely at a framed picture of Tara and her mother at Tara’s eighth-grade graduation. Did Tara look like her father? She had a hard time remembering him clearly. She didn’t think he had blond hair, but she was fairly sure that he had been taller than his brother and that he’d had long, graceful fingers.

As she heard the voices rising and falling below her, she walked slowly back to the bed and sat down. Maybe she would wait up here just a little bit longer.

~~~

As Tara felt the reassuring pressure of Willow’s fingers interlocked with her own, she let herself feel the first wave of exhaustion from the day’s chaos and upheaval. She wanted desperately to be alone with Willow, who she knew would help her begin to make sense of it all, wrapped within the comfort of her arms. Willow, who celebrated her strength and spirit—helped her find it and trust it, even—instead of trying to cage her or break her like a wild horse that she wanted to bend to her will.

Do I really need to say anything else? Is there anything else that I need to hear from them? Looking at the faces of those who had come to protect her, she realized that it was time to be with her family.

Taking a slight step forward, she said, "I have to go. It’s time for me to leave."

Grief flashed across Nathan’s face before he could hide it.

Donnie turned to her as if just remembering that she was there.

Steadying herself with Willow’s presence, she continued, "There are probably other things we need to talk about at some point, but I can’t do it now. And heaven knows you two need to talk," she added, glancing between the two men who stood angry and defeated before her.

"Are—are you sure you have to go?" Nathan’s voice sounded smaller than Tara had ever heard it.

She couldn’t bring herself to comfort him, and she couldn’t bring herself to strike him down. She could only meet his eyes and reply, "Yes. I do...Daddy." The appellation was out of her mouth before she could stop herself, and she wasn’t sure she would have stopped it anyway. Was he her father? Did she even have one? She only knew that this was what she had always called him, and though she wasn’t sure she would call him that in the future, it was what she would call him now.

She saw him start at the word, and watched as his jaw worked furiously. Another man might well have cried, just a little.

Turning to Donnie, she said quietly, "I meant what I said earlier—I am sorry about everything you went through. But I don’t want you to call me or come see me or interfere in my life in any way. I mean that just as much." Looking back at the others, she felt a tiny smile ripple over her face. "And in case you couldn’t tell, they meant what they said, too."

She felt the warmth of Willow’s fingers, of her spirit, sliding along her veins, warming her and giving her the strength to walk away. The others followed quietly behind her. Nathan and Donnie stood mutely, their eyes alternately trailing her and stealing back to the other, as if unsure of the threat they faced from one another.

When she reached the SUV, she remembered something. She turned and looked at Nathan. "The rock--what does that mean?"

He started at the sound of her voice, and then a ghost of a smile twisted across his mouth. "My father gave that to me. It was the week before we left. He said if you held it up to the light, you could see a bear in its markings. I could never see it…But I kept it. I thought maybe one day I'd be able to."

Not trusting herself to speak, Tara just nodded. She held his gaze for what felt like a very long time, before turning and climbing into the car.

~~~

Listening to Tara drive away, she glanced at the clock above the desk. Donnie had arrived just after the group had left the first time. So she knew her uncle hadn’t eaten any supper.

She moved slowly to the door and walked out into the hallway, wondering whether he would prefer chicken or pot roast tonight.

*****


To be continued



Edited by: AntigoneUnbound at: 3/13/03 5:37:55 pm
AntigoneUnbound
 


Re: Part 18

Postby Penrose Orleans » Thu Mar 13, 2003 4:49 pm

Mary--

Another quick one before my brain explodes (thanks for the encouragement, by the way!)... you rock out, and that's nifty. In conclusion, looks like I can have Nathan's babies and Beth's babies, and it'll be OK because they won't be uber-evil. Amen. --Nora



By the way, my sig:

'If I run away, grab me by my neck. And if I can't hear you, Shout!

I give you my hand, take the whole arm. And if you want more, then shout!'

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"Si salgo corriendo, tú me agarras por el cuello. Y si no te escucho, ¡Grita!

Te tiendo la mano, tú agarra todo el brazo. Y si quieres más, pues ¡Grita!" -Jarabe de Palo, "Grita"

Penrose Orleans
 


Whither Willow?

Postby darkmagicwillow » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:09 pm

In this chapter, I loved the conjunction of Tara thinking:

she realized that it was time to be with her family
with her saying:

"I have to go. It’s time for me to leave."
without her ever having to think in which direction her real family was to be found.



The little glimpses we get of Beth are so tantilizing. Her loss of her father can't be compensated for by gaining a sister she never wanted. Of course, her thoughts are dark and a little shocky as she returns to her only steady point, Nathan, even after she's overheard his flaws.



Despite his deeply conflicted feelings regarding his wife and hence Tara, Nathan has learned something from his mistakes as he willingly gives Tara the truth and sets her free. Will he learn something more from telling Tara the truth and demonstrate it in how he treats Beth, another "daughter" who isn't his child?



Closer to home, what is Willow learning from all this? While you've understandably focused on Tara's viewpoint in these chapters, I've missed Willow's point of view, as Nathan has made exactly the same type of mistake Willow will make in casting the forget spell on Tara in s6. While she hasn't made that mistake yet, I'm troubled as I recall her aborted attempt to curse Oz which is in the past and her understandable but still dangerous urge to really hurt Donnie, even as I share and understand that feeling. Willow feels dangerous to me in these chapters, perhaps because we don't see her inner thoughts. I can understand that this type of introspection is not something that Willow can focus on now, but for both their sakes, I hope she does think about it later.

--

"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

Edited by: darkmagicwillow at: 3/13/03 3:12:14 pm
darkmagicwillow
 


Re: Part 18

Postby greenwitch » Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:41 pm

wow! how cool was that! Again i loved the short segments with Beth. i wonder when that confrontation is going to happen...



i'm sorry i haven't posted for the last two bit, i was on california at UCSD (that's UC San Diego and not UC SunnyDale hee hee :D ). the weather was nice and warm. then i get back to boston, and what do you know, its snowing again... sigh... will winter ever be over?

greenwitch
 


Re: Part 19

Postby Patches » Thu Mar 13, 2003 6:35 pm

Mary, Queen of Scotties and emotional torment ... I mean this in the most heartfelt, warm, and loving Kitten way – I HATE YOU! Sweet Jesus, where does this come from? You know I hate Nathan, you just know it, so why do you f*ck with my head and make me feel sorry for him. Ugh. You do have a real talent and understanding of human nature, which I don’t believe comes just from textbooks. I see it very clearly in your writing. Although they are characters in a fiction, they speak of real world experiences ranging from elation to agony. I believe this is what I find so appealing in your writing. This doesn’t just feel real; it is real.



Now on to more of the story. I melted, absolutely melted as I read through this update. Your muse is a powerful one (and when she’s done with you, send her my way, will you – lol). How tempting it must have been just to walk away from the whole thing. I honestly don’t know which is harder, leaving or staying. So I wonder what Tara would have done had the Scoobies and Willow not been there for the show down. You used a phrase in your other fic that I’ll give back to you here – ‘it’s like a train wreck, you just can’t look away’ – different context, but same sentiment. I don’t think there’s any way Tara could leave. The momentum she’s carried from making the decision to return to CS dictates she follows through, as emotionally bloody as she knows the scene’s going to be.



Ah, the Scoobies. What a great presence they are here for Tara. I love talking about your Scoobies. I howled at your writing of their reactions, especially Dawn, rather poignantly ignoring the “lezbo” part. Buffy holding Dawn back. Well, really, it’s Tara holding them all back. I think this is where her greatest strength lies. I had wondered if she would have held up so well without the Scoobies and Willow there. I think this is where you let us see that, despite her own inner musings and questions, she had the strength, even if she doesn’t recognize it. She didn’t allow the Scoobies to fight her battle for her. “I don’t have to be afraid. I can stand tall, and I have people who love me here beside me. I don’t have to run from him anymore.” It’s the last phrase that really seals this for me. She has all the ingredients within herself; her friends are the icing on the cake.



One thing in her talk with Nathan. He never actually says, ‘I love you.’ I found that particularly interesting. He talks of the pain of the daily reminder of his wife’s infidelity in Tara’s resemblance to her biological father and how much Tara reminds him of Julia – does Nathan ever see Tara for who she is, instead of just as a vessel of reflected shadows of his own pain. He loved Julia and so he loves Tara, by default. As I said, Nathan really twisted love into something hurtful, hateful, and spiteful. I suppose that’s what makes me pity him (but pity is in itself a harsh condemnation, isn’t it.) I really liked the symbolism of the rock – maybe one day he’d see it. Truly, that sentence speaks volumes.



Jeeze, now I have to think about Donnie – the “As you have done, receive,” spell was wonderful and so very appropriate. They really are kindred spirits from the house of horrors. I can’t judge Donnie, not yet (although Tara’s little ass-kicking was satisfying to my more base instincts.) Donnie never has known the love of either parent, so perhaps his response is understandable (while still being deplorable). Children live what they learn. Tara was an easy target for him, as Donnie was an easy target for Nathan. This is telling moment for Donnie. For the first time, at least that we’ve seen, someone has opened the black box in which he has dwelt and shown him colour. Perhaps, for the first time, Donnie has a choice. Tara rejects his anger, his father rejects is anger, now it’s up to him to see if he, himself can let go of the dark emotions he’s worn like a security blanket for so long.



Poor forgotten Beth, she’s really getting a bit of the shaft here. Unlike Tara, she’s not surrounded with people who love her unconditionally. Should someone have brought her into this – I think so, she is, after all, affected almost as much as Tara by Nathan’s revelations. Her reaction at the end is very troublesome. Will she ever have the chance to deal with this; it doesn’t seem so. Tara deals, Beth walks away and tries to insinuate herself back into her assumed role in the Maclay household.



Thanks Mary – You rock my world, figuratively and occasionally literally ;)



Cheers!!

Patches



ETA: I thought this whole thing in my head and forgot to write it down. Hate it when that happens.



Tara’s remark about Nathan not questioning the truth of his demon heritage was really poetic justice. I wonder if Nathan’s parents are still alive. I don’t remember you mentioning that (and sorry for the lapse if you did). But, if Nathan’s parents are dead, then he’s in the same boat as Tara. There’s no way to him to find the truth. However, if Grandparent(s) Maclay are still around, there’s another interesting confrontation brewing.





You know I've heard about people like me. But I never made the connection. They walk one road to set them free, And find they've gone the wrong direction. But there's no need for turning back 'cause all roads lead to where I stand. And I believe I'll walk them all No matter what I may have planned

Edited by: Patches at: 3/13/03 5:25:32 pm
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Re: Whither Willow?

Postby TemperedCynic » Thu Mar 13, 2003 6:55 pm

What taut, nervy tension for this chapter - and this was mellow in impact!



We all have troubling issues in our lives, but how we deal with these problems mold us into the people we will become. Tara was the only Maclay to truly understand the dynamic that faced her blood relations. Her infinte forgiveness was expressed so well here. Because of her actions, she will become more whole, repairing some of the damage from the past. It remains to be seen what benefits the Maclay men will derive from their talk. Knowing your ability at shaping gray, I suspect that they may begin healing as well. What an interesting thought - that even the Maclay men could be redeemed, if only...if only.


More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly. Woody Allen (1935 - )

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Re: Part 19

Postby jixer » Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:17 pm

Hello Kittens-



I find the use of magic here very interesting. Willow lashes out to stop and to give Donnie some hint of what he's done. It's reflex quick as Willow defends her lover by knocking Donnie to the ground. Tara may need to talk to Willow about magic later, but she knows her heart's mate well enough to understand what Willow has done and why. Tara's own magic is less flashy and more painful. And the result is Donnie talking to his father about how he feels probably for the first time in his life.



But the most troubling thing is how Beth handles all of this. In her we see what Tara might have become without her loving if flawed mother. I seriously doubt Beth can be even as strong as Tara was when she left home at this point in her life without lots of help.



Mary, it's wonderful. Thank you so much for this.



Jixer

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Re: Part 19

Postby Washi » Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:33 pm

Mary, I'm in love with your writing. :grin

This was a great update, and I'm glad to be here for the ride.

Ok, I felt a little sympathy for Donnie, but only when he told Nathan that h shouldn't have hit him. Many, and I mean many of my friends have an abusive family, but they don't act like that. They channel their anger and hate at something else, for instance arts or music. Most of my friends team up with their siblings, they don't beat each other.

Now, I'm happy that Donnie got his ass kicked. Man, I loved seeing all the Scoobies, well, mostly all, threatening Donnie. And Willow standing up for Tara. Man, that's so sweet. Tara knows who is a member of her family, and who isn't. Dawn trying to kick his ass, good stuff. Tara knows Donnie can't hurt her as long as she's with her family, and that's great. There's a really tight bond between all the Scoobies here, and I love it.

Yes, Tara needs to talk things through with Willow. It will make their relationship rock solid. No more secrets. I love that too.

Actually, I started writing about what Willow and Tara talk about the night after the episode "Family". I don't know why I started with that episode, but I was waiting for the subway, and it hit me. Hopefully, you guys will like that one. But of course, it'll never be as good as this one. :grin

Mary, no problem for the vocabulary, glad I could help. And, as I said before, I'm glad I'm in this ride. :D

Hope to see an update soon. :kiss

Washi
 

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